trade liles and retain as much as possible (i think 50%, so 1.875). might be a better option.

I think someone would take him (and we don't have to add a prospect) @1.875.
- burn

Agreed. I'm not sure why this isn't preferable to everyone...including whoever we trade him to. If he's bought out he's getting picked up by someone at likely a larger salary than 1.9m.

We have his money on the books for 3 years instead of 6.

I don't watch any junior hockey, but I find it hard to bleieve that it is no longer a challenge for him.

Have him play top minutes. Have him take a leadership role. Have him go to the WJHC (imho, one of the best things you can do to develop a player).

There's nothing wrong with being methodical in player development.

And that's especially true of d-men.
- Atomic Wedgie

Trade him to a team that will get into the playoffs, then you have something new for him to learn from

And Re Philadelphia Flyers: shouldn't there be a max. time for the LTIR? for example 2 years max.?
- MaximusAurelius

and allow teams to buy them out?

if it's a long term injury which force the player to retire (pronger) them it should come off the cap.
Even if the signed the deal at the age of 35+

call it the medical buyout clause.

- Leafland

the amount of whining has been pretty ridiculous. the article I saw the other day was just wow....

Agreed. I'm not sure why this isn't preferable to everyone...including whoever we trade him to. If he's bought out he's getting picked up by someone at likely a larger salary than 1.9m.

We have his money on the books for 3 years instead of 6.
- djamon

makes perfect sense to me.

I don't watch any junior hockey, but I find it hard to believe that it is no longer a challenge for him.
- Atomic Wedgie

TSN or Sportnet boys were talking about this

Have him play top minutes. Have him take a leadership role. Have him go to the WJHC (imho, one of the best things you can do to develop a player).
- Atomic Wedgie

Still can play in WJHC if he's on the leafs also.

There's nothing wrong with being methodical in player development.

And that's especially true of d-men.
- Atomic Wedgie

Totally agree

do we know which teams he doesn't want to be traded to?
- zazzle

Probably Edmonton... No one ever wants to go there.

Burke was doing a fine job, never understood why they got rid of him...

Probably Edmonton... No one ever wants to go there.


- PatC80

to damn cold but great for making ice.

Burke was doing a fine job, never understood why they got rid of him...
- bartsch

his truculence.

TSN or Sportnet boys were talking about this




Still can play in WJHC if he's on the leafs also.



Totally agree
- zazzle

I totally agree with you 2. I know a few NHL players, some forwards and some d men. The forwards always say, every move you used in Jr does not work in the NHL. The d men are bigger stronger and faster than the guys they played against in Jr. But it takes the d men a couple of years after Jr, for the most part, to develop the skills to step into the NHL.

Burke was doing a fine job, never understood why they got rid of him...
- bartsch

Personally, I think he was fired for not firing Ron Wilson soon enough.

My opinion though..

Personally, I think he was fired for not firing Ron Wilson soon enough.

My opinion though..
- Compeyson

He was too outspoken and too much of a control freek, for the new owners.

He was too outspoken and too much of a control freek, for the new owners.
- bixll

That's why I said it was my opinion.

Man.

Agreed. I'm not sure why this isn't preferable to everyone...including whoever we trade him to. If he's bought out he's getting picked up by someone at likely a larger salary than 1.9m.

We have his money on the books for 3 years instead of 6.
- djamon

Any team can retain salary for 3 players in a trade on their cap at any one time
Frattin, Scrivens and JML

Although I have no idea what his [jml] modified NTC contains

Leaf are done with buyouts,only guys you can buyout is the players that went to arbitration and Liles didn't,so good luck finding a team to take Liles but then again if MacT was able to trade Horcoff then NOnis should be able to do the same I hope.

He was too outspoken and too much of a control freek, for the new owners.
- bixll

It seems that they replaced 1 US Blowhard with another US Blowhard

Burke was doing a fine job, never understood why they got rid of him...
- bartsch

HE never knew when to STFU.

Leaf are done with buyouts,only guys you can buyout is the players that went to arbitration and Liles didn't,so good luck finding a team to take Liles but then again if MacT was able to trade Horcoff then NOnis should be able to do the same I hope.
- AlEx_OiL

MacT was able to trade Horcoff because his salary was lower than his cap hit

It seems that they replaced 1 US Blowhard with another US Blowhard
- MTL1

Whatever.. Too old for that poop.

Leaf are done with buyouts,only guys you can buyout is the players that went to arbitration and Liles didn't,so good luck finding a team to take Liles but then again if MacT was able to trade Horcoff then NOnis should be able to do the same I hope.
- AlEx_OiL

This is completely incorrect. But thanks.

It seems that they replaced 1 US Blowhard with another US Blowhard
- MTL1

This is coming from a fan of the team who wont have a coach that doesn't speak French.

Yeah. Go home. Discrimination isn't that cool.

It seems that they replaced 1 US Blowhard with another US Blowhard
- MTL1

Im liking Tim.

Could it be that Nonis played this Fraser scenario just like this. Forcing Fraser to file for arbitration so that it gave him another window of opportunity to orchestrate a buyout??

Interesting.
- faceto27

Ya. You may be right. He certainly knows a hell of a lot more about wiggling around within the rules of the CBA than the majority of fans (myself OBVIOUSLY included). Interesting thought for sure.

Im liking Tim.
- Fakepartofme

Im confident he will do lots of good for all 4 teams but just wasnt too impressed on his comments of taking down old Leafs pics from the ACC - when I go there next - will I expect to see pics of Orr and McLaren in the hallways?