Darren is that you?
- AdamFrench

inside info....no one knows about TSN.ca yet, or twitter.

Yeah, I can't imagine how the Leafs are going to fill his 13:56 TOI/G, or his 9 points.

And he really stepped it up in the playoffs, recording 0 points during his 9:12 TOI/G.

Maybe with any old scrub from the Marlies?

Yeah, that would do it.

We'll be fine.
- Atomic Wedgie

didnt he hit like a truck though?

I really fail to see how signing our 6th defenceman to a one year contract at very low cost has anything to do with Franson.
- Atomic Wedgie

Its cause Franson wants 4.0 a year, and we only have 4.825 left to sign Kadri and Franson.

Something is going to have to give.

Well, after 4 long weeks, this is what we've come to


JVR(4.25) Bozak(4.2) Kessel(5.4,pending UFA)

Lupul(5.25) Kadri(RFA) Clarkson(5.25)

McClement(1.5) Bolland(3.375) Kulemin(2.8) - Whole 3rd line are pendings UFAs

Marlie?(550-800k) Colborne(600k,pending RFA) Orr(925k)

McLaren(700k)


Gunnarsson(3.15) Phaneuf(6.5,pending UFA)

Gardiner(1.16el,pending RFA) Franson(RFA)

Fraser(1.275) Ranger(1.0) - Pending UFA's

Liles(3.875) Holzer(788k)


Bernier(2.9)
Reimer(1.8,pending RFA)

Cap penalty via buyouts/retained salary: 2.5 ... That will be returned next offseason

Estimated capspace: 4.825 m

Safe to say we need to find a team for Liles. Stat.

didnt he hit like a truck though?
- DDM-Coga

He's listed as 5'10", 187 lbs. He was probably a bit smaller than that.

I'll give the guy credit - he was willing to hit.

But "like a truck?"

Nope.

meaning a big man who plays soft? was a 7th dman after the so-called "steal" from Nashville
- shmenge

The thing is, Fraser isn't really going to improve. I agree that, ya, Franson could/should use his size to his advantage, but his upside hasn't been fully realized yet...he's still improving. Don't get me wrong. I like Fraser quite a bit, but I think that we aren't going to see him get any better than what he is.
As far as being the "7th d-man", that may have been the case a couple of years ago, but he is not that anymore.
I don't know dude...obviously, I'm no GM, so I'm just giving my opinion of the situation. I'm just hoping that we aren't going to relinquish what appears to be a fairly valued asset without receiving just compensation.

Hey anything happening today? I just ran into Mark Fraser at the Land Rover dealership.
- The Law

You idiot.

I told you to run into Liles.

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When can we start signing our potential UFA's?

You idiot.

I told you to run into Liles.
- Atomic Wedgie

into or over??

I'm sure the leafs want to keep franson and kadri, as they were both big parts of the team last year. I'm sure they are trying to move a guy like Liles, but teams prob want them to take a bad contract back. Even if they had to trade Franson they won't take any salary back. It would be all prospects and/or picks.

I'm thinking they at offering Kadri 2-3 million per and he is probably wanting around 4 million. Franson is definitely in the 3.5 million range after last season. The only thing that's for sure is that the Leafs will be making a trade or two before next season starts.

When can we start signing our potential UFA's?
- IrishRage

Jan 1 I think.

Yeah, I can't imagine how the Leafs are going to fill his 13:56 TOI/G, or his 9 points.

And he really stepped it up in the playoffs, recording 0 points during his 9:12 TOI/G.

Maybe with any old scrub from the Marlies?

Yeah, that would do it.

We'll be fine.
- Atomic Wedgie

No kidding. To me (and to a great many others I'm assuming), it all boils down to who I would rather have. Ranger & Fraser or Franson. I would rather Franson, as he took some great strides last season. I like Fraser, and he does serve a valued purpose, but d-men like Franson aren't exactly a common commodity.
Nonis had better have something up his sleeve...
- clintyboy

Quit it with the catastrophe scenarios. They will get it done, probably having to retain some of JML's salary in a trade.

Just hurry up and trade someone already!!

When can we start signing our potential UFA's?
- IrishRage

We could right now if we wanted to. What do you think Pittsburgh's been doing all off-season? lol

I hope the cap jumps to $74M+ next year so we dont have to do this crap again...
Untill we sign another UFA a way too much for way too long

We could right now if we wanted to. What do you think Pittsburgh's been doing all off-season? lol
- t_leafs21

I was under the same impression as Burn that we cant start signing until a certain point next season

Jan 1 I think.
- burn

Wrong. It's okay though.

liles must go

he is the odd man out.

Allaire's Way is not radically different from Miller's Way.
- garth

I was under the same impression as Burn that we cant start signing until a certain point next season
- IrishRage

Nope. You can sign potential UFA's as soon as it hits the 1 year mark.


Malkin,Letang and Kunitz all re-signed with 1 year remaining. They announced the Malkin signing before they were even allowed to. They just announced they "agreed to terms" He couldn't actually sign it officially until July 5th

We could of signed Kessel by now if we really wanted to. I don't think were going to force it yet, we'll see how it all plays out.

Don't think anyone is going to take jml, only way franson stays is if jml gets bought out-

You know the hedge maze at Centre Island no longer exists, right?
- Atomic Wedgie

Mr Meany is bringing it back

http://www.thestar.com/ne...mans_200000_donation.html

Yeah, I can't imagine how the Leafs are going to fill his 13:56 TOI/G, or his 9 points.

And he really stepped it up in the playoffs, recording 0 points during his 9:12 TOI/G.

Maybe with any old scrub from the Marlies?

Yeah, that would do it.

We'll be fine.
- Atomic Wedgie

You're undervaluing his role big time. Guys like him don't show up on the game sheet and they don't intend to, they aggravate and frustrate the other team.

I agree they'll be fine. But he was very effective at what he did and they will miss his style of game.

I have no idea how training camp injuries affect the cap, but if they can't move Liles might waiting for injuries be the last hope to keep everyone?