i think a huge winger that is potentially ready for top 6 duty in the NHL who lead the AHL play-offs in scoring by a long shot in the least amount of games is a "key" component on any team looking for top 6 prospects who are young and NHL ready

connolly has had injury problems and is developing. he has been brought up to the NHL and has showed his goal scoring personality by shooting every time he gets the chance..he is ours and will never go!!!!

palat and a 3rd/4th is a reasonable deal IMO, but whats that worth
- RileyB77

The problem with what you're saying is, you shoving an ahl guy down my throat that has never done anything in the nhl in palat. Franson with this half season stint and playoffs, has proven something at an NHL level. Shoving an average ahl guy who alot of players do go in the ahl then do absolute crap in the nhl, is not something id even bother with. You're comparing nhl quality to ahl quality.

Well its not like you guys use him at all We for sure would want something tangible not some prospect that may or may not pan out, like average prospects which we have alot of already. Franson did have a good half season and did shine in playoffs. Heck i don't even want him to leave, id rather us trade liles away or gunner just to pay him, but if we trade him, something "key" will have to come back our way for sure.
- DougGilmour_93

trade gunner away ill let you have connolly

The problem with what you're saying is, you shoving an ahl guy down my throat that has never done anything in the nhl in palat. Franson with this half season stint and playoffs, has proven something at an NHL level. Shoving an average ahl guy who alot of players do go in the ahl then do absolute crap in the nhl, is not something id even bother with. You're comparing nhl quality to ahl quality.
- DougGilmour_93

no, he played 14 NHL games on the 3rd line with us this season and did just fine
2 goals 2 assists in his first NHL seeing, not to mention he is a force on the forecheck .. i know what you're saying...but you're also saying you want a 1st round pick + malone and aulie for Franson

trade gunner away ill let you have connolly
- RileyB77

Would do that, maybe with aulie but would do it still if we had to add a bit. If we had to open some cap up to resign franson as well.

Neither, they are our future!
- bradstar

Franson is only 25 so he could be part for present AND future...
Gotta give something to get something.

Franson is only 25 so he could be part for present AND future...
Gotta give something to get something.
- BoBBeR56

They want gunner now, so give them gunner

Franson is only 25 so he could be part for present AND future...
Gotta give something to get something.
- BoBBeR56

Exactly. All these offers from what I've read about these guys are mid level prospect and a basically worthless draft pick. Can do much better resigning him or moving him elsewhere.

They want gunner now, so give them gunner
- DougGilmour_93

I think gunnarson will be a top defenseman

Exactly. All these offers from what I've read about these guys are mid level prospect and a basically worthless draft pick. Can do much better resigning him or moving him elsewhere.
- TheLeafsInsider

Palat is not a mid level or worthless prospect . It is fine by me to kep him .. Hopefully you hear his name a lot this season , well I know you will

Palat is not a mid level or worthless prospect . It is fine by me to kep him .. Hopefully you hear his name a lot this season , well I know you will
- RileyB77

He totally is, just cause you are upselling his AHL game doesn`t mean it will convert to NHL game...
http://www.hockeysfuture....m/prospects/ondrej_palat/
Leafs have 11 forward prospects that are at least on Palat`s level:
http://www.hockeysfuture....eams/toronto_maple_leafs/

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Palat is not a mid level or worthless prospect . It is fine by me to kep him .. Hopefully you hear his name a lot this season , well I know you will
- RileyB77

Didn't say worthless. Said mid level because that's what he is, he is not an elite prospect by any means.

What about Panik or Koekkoek and a 3rd for Franson...
- BoBBeR56

Koekkoek is a non-starter.

The problem with what you're saying is, you shoving an ahl guy down my throat that has never done anything in the nhl in palat. Franson with this half season stint and playoffs, has proven something at an NHL level. Shoving an average ahl guy who alot of players do go in the ahl then do absolute crap in the nhl, is not something id even bother with. You're comparing nhl quality to ahl quality.
- DougGilmour_93

Palat is not on the same level as Connolly or for that matter Panik but you are mistaken on what Palat has and has not done. He more than showed himself as a capable NHLer last season for exactly what he is...a stellar PKer and bottom line forward. In fact he has shown as much based on his AHL/NHL play that his NHL status is more or less cemented now, very much like Franson.

Now on that note Palat will not be getting traded for Franson but it has nothing to do with what Palat has and has not done. Palat is a VERY underrated player and has been throughout his entire career. Yzerman knows just how valuable Palat will be, especially in playoff time. However, players with the "value" of Palat don't have the same trade value as guys like Connolly, Panik, etc. If Palat were traded it would be almost guaranteed that we wouldn't get equal value back. However, in a few years when the Bolts are in the playoffs everyone will know who Palat is and understand just how valuable his type of player is.

Exactly. All these offers from what I've read about these guys are mid level prospect and a basically worthless draft pick. Can do much better resigning him or moving him elsewhere.
- TheLeafsInsider

Are you calling Brett Connolly and/or Richard Panik mid-level prospects?

Palat is a mid-level prospect, Panik and Connolly are not

Are you calling Brett Connolly and/or Richard Panik mid-level prospects?

Palat is a mid-level prospect, Panik and Connolly are not
- uf1910

Connoly I am absolutely not. Only people offering Connolly are leafs fans, I doubt Yzerman is interested in moving him.

Panik has some potential but his career high of 41 AHL points doesn't say much for him. He's a good young player but him and basically a worthless draft pick does not equal Franson, I'm sorry. Franson proves it at the NHL level, panik has done very little so far.

Keep him if you think he's a great prospect, I just don't see it.

Are you calling Brett Connolly and/or Richard Panik mid-level prospects?

Palat is a mid-level prospect, Panik and Connolly are not
- uf1910

I'll keep Palat and trade Panik. Palat has Thompsons drive and a solid skill set, where Panik can get lazy at times.

i know palat is a 7th round pick...but he has panned out to be a late 1st/ early 2nd pick

anyways, i wouldnt like giving him up either...i wouldnt like giving up any of our boys im just stating what i think would be a fair trade
- RileyB77

To get quality u have to give quality

He totally is, just cause you are upselling his AHL game doesn`t mean it will convert to NHL game...
http://www.hockeysfuture....m/prospects/ondrej_palat/
Leafs have 11 forward prospects that are at least on Palat`s level:
http://www.hockeysfuture....eams/toronto_maple_leafs/
- BoBBeR56

I don't care what you arwe telling me about palat...he is going to be a top 6 winger in the nhl in the next 2 years whether you like it or not and will be a threat on any team.

he in my opinion is a high level prospect. definately above mid level and you have to be unknowledgable on his gameplay to think otherwise

lol these guys are rediculous and know nothing of value when it comes to tampa bays prospects, stop telling me what the prospects from the crunch are. i know exactly what they are and how they will make us better

Connoly I am absolutely not. Only people offering Connolly are leafs fans, I doubt Yzerman is interested in moving him.

Panik has some potential but his career high of 41 AHL points doesn't say much for him. He's a good young player but him and basically a worthless draft pick does not equal Franson, I'm sorry. Franson proves it at the NHL level, panik has done very little so far.

Keep him if you think he's a great prospect, I just don't see it.
- TheLeafsInsider

lol, palat had 52 points this season just passed, and 26 points in only 18 games in the play-offs

connoly only had 10 morew points in regular season and had way way way way way way fewer points than palat during playoffs

in my opinion, if connolly is ranked an elite prospect by you, so should palat

lol, palat had 52 points this season just passed, and 26 points in only 18 games in the play-offs

connoly only had 10 morew points in regular season and had way way way way way way fewer points than palat during playoffs

in my opinion, if connolly is ranked an elite prospect by you, so should palat
- RileyB77

Alot of players have lit up the AHL go look at Keith Aucoin, Mike Kostka, Kris newbury, Jeff Taffe, Ben Walter, list goes on and on.

These guys also all cannot play at the NHL level consistently. Connolly is regarded by prospect sites who have much more info on these kids then you and I I'm sure as an elite prospect. Palat is regarded basically as a AHL scorer with somewhat of an NHL chance.

Ryan Hamilton was Nearly PPG with the marlies a year ago. Does that mean the oilers got an elite prospect as well when they signed him? I'm just curious what you think.

What about Panik or Koekkoek and a 3rd for Franson...
- BoBBeR56

I'd do Panik and a 3rd.

Alot of players have lit up the AHL go look at Keith Aucoin, Mike Kostka, Kris newbury, Jeff Taffe, Ben Walter, list goes on and on.

These guys also all cannot play at the NHL level consistently. Connolly is regarded by prospect sites who have much more info on these kids then you and I I'm sure as an elite prospect. Palat is regarded basically as a AHL scorer with somewhat of an NHL chance.

Ryan Hamilton was Nearly PPG with the marlies a year ago. Does that mean the oilers got an elite prospect as well when they signed him? I'm just curious what you think.
- TheLeafsInsider

this is what i think:

palat has played 14 games with us this year
he did a hell of a job for us
he lit up the AHL in the reg season and took it to a more extreme level when his team needed him in the playoffs
he showed up when it counted
thats what the NHL is all about
he is a hard worker, he is massive, he battles, and he has a good set of skills to go along with it
he will most likely be on our roster this season and has way more than "somewhat of a chance"

he is only 19 years old. i dont have a fuking clue who youre talking about, all i know is what youre saying about palat is rediculous ....if he makes a roster containing the likes of purcell, stamkos, st louis, drouin, killorn, filppula.... he is a good hockey player, and i dont care what u say lol

if you are 19 in the AHL making 1.44 PPG in the playoffs in the calder cup finals, you (in my opinion) are considered an elite prospect, dont give a (frank) if u got drafted 7th round

this is what i think:

palat has played 14 games with us this year
he did a hell of a job for us
he lit up the AHL in the reg season and took it to a more extreme level when his team needed him in the playoffs
he showed up when it counted
thats what the NHL is all about
he is a hard worker, he is massive, he battles, and he has a good set of skills to go along with it
he will most likely be on our roster this season and has way more than "somewhat of a chance"

he is only 19 years old. i dont have a fuking clue who youre talking about, all i know is what youre saying about palat is rediculous ....if he makes a roster containing the likes of purcell, stamkos, st louis, drouin, killorn, filppula.... he is a good hockey player, and i dont care what u say lol

if you are 19 in the AHL making 1.44 PPG in the playoffs in the calder cup finals, you (in my opinion) are considered an elite prospect, dont give a (frank) if u got drafted 7th round
- RileyB77

this is rediculous, it is only my opinion that he is an elite prospect...if you dont like it move on

ive given you my reasons and ive given you decent logical reasons why i consider him elite..

i didnt say he was an elite NHL player or a proven NHL'er i said he was an "Elite prospect" and by the definition of that i believe it to be 100% true. having more points than the AHL MVP in the playoffs , when your team needed you, when the pressure was on...is a big upside