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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 29 @ 12:55 PM ET
His CSN articles even have mistakes. I'll never forget about his impassioned argumentative piece about how the Flyers should trade Laughton for Iginla last season. This was when the Flyers were off to a horrendous start and weren't close to a playoff spot. He posted that article on here and CSN!

Right before free agency he wrote an article about how the Flyers should pursue David Clarkson because they could sign him to a 3 years $3M deal.

His argument for the salary was taking Clarkson's average goals over his ENTIRE career. The sad thing is that he's one of the voices of the Philly hockey market.

- PhillySportsGuy

Agreed. "Flyers Insider," my eye. Sad that kids in this area grow up with the likes of him, John Boruk, Randy Miller, Frank Seravalli, and Sam Carchidi being foisted on them as the sources to read for Flyers and hockey info.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 29 @ 12:57 PM ET
Roman Cechmanek
- Flyskippy

Agreed. He was the best goalie between the pipes in Philly in the last 15+ years and it's rare anyone has anything nice to say about him. You can thank Primeau and Recchi for that.
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Jul 29 @ 12:57 PM ET
If bryz put up the numbers roman did I doudt he gets bought out.
- twotoekenn

Exactly, no way in hell he gets bought-out. Roman literally put up Vezina numbers in the season, and our teams shat the bed in the playoffs.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 29 @ 12:58 PM ET
Therien v1.0 (94/95 - 01/02) wasn't too bad. There were times he drove me crazy, but if nothing else, him shutting down Jagr alone was worth him being on the team.
Therin v2.0 (02/03 - 05/06), not so much.
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Jul 29 @ 12:59 PM ET
Agreed. He was the best gaolie between the pipes in Philly in the last 15+ years and it's rare anyone has anything nice to say about him. You can thank Primeau and Recchi for that.
- mayorofangrytown

Yeah, sucks because he actually put up incredible numbers and let in 1 or 2 shaky goals in a couple of playoff series' and he was toast.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 29 @ 1:00 PM ET
My son was able to meet Bernie when my mom-in-law let us go to the game where his book was given out. So, I took the book to get signed and Bernie let my son put on the ring. He asked the same sort of question and gave similar advice. Talk to my son about Bernie Parent and you'll get the same reaction you wrote about: He'll never forget it. Thanks for sharing, jak.
- Flyskippy

My son too. His favourite Flyers of all time are Hextall and Parent. He never saw either of them play, only videos.

I wonder if you took a poll how many people have had his cup ring on their finger? I can tell you all three of the people in my family have.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 29 @ 1:03 PM ET
Blaming your teammates and throwing temper tantrums is
- PhillySportsGuy

He never blamed a team mate.

Maybe you need to go back and watch that Buffalo game again where he yelled at the team on the ice. Their performance was shameful and instead of taking on the challenge they decided to put him in his place and shoot pucks at his head in practice like 10 yr olds.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 29 @ 1:06 PM ET
My son too. His favourite Flyers of all time are Hextall and Parent. He never saw either of them play, only videos.

I wonder if you took a poll how many people have had his cup ring on their finger? I can tell you all three of the people in my family have.

- mayorofangrytown


Bernie is one of the nicest, most interesting people I have EVER met. I used to see him all the time trolling around Somers Point (for fish and "other things") with other ex Flyers such as Tim Kerr, Rick MacLiesh, Bill Barber, and Bob Clarke.

That guy would have so many ladies around him all clamoring to go out on his boat. And he would always have time for people..ALWAYS.

And as an aside, he would never, EVER, EEEEVER, drop an fbomb around kids in public like the man who Hayes believes in the most popular Philly sports icon. Bernie has too much class for that.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 29 @ 1:08 PM ET
He never blamed a team mate.

Maybe you need to go back and watch that Buffalo game again where he yelled at the team on the ice. Their performance was shameful and instead of taking on the challenge they decided to put him in his place and shoot pucks at his head in practice like 10 yr olds.

- mayorofangrytown


Agreed, Chechmanek was the only player showing up. He had every right to call out his players. The players reacted like babies.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 29 @ 1:08 PM ET
Agreed. "Flyers Insider," my eye. Sad that kids in this area grow up with the likes of him, John Boruk, Randy Miller, Frank Seravalli, and Sam Carchidi being foisted on them as the sources to read for Flyers and hockey info.
- Flyskippy

We had Morganti and Greenberg. Say what you will about what Al has become on that goofball morning show but he was a tremendous hockey writer and even today when he turns a serious eye toward the sport the man knows what he's talking about.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 29 @ 1:08 PM ET
Marcus Hayes is clueless. Regardless of what sport he is covering. Always has been. Chase Utley is going to go down as a great Phillie. Arguably the best 2nd baseman ever to play for the team. He will always be remembered for the way he played the game, his role on the World Series team. And his famous comment during the parade. But it's so much more with Bernie Parent. When Utley's playing days are over, he'll probably disapear into the sunset. Parent has remained a part of the team, and the community. And his become a legend for far more then just his Hockey career. It's actually sad that Marcus Hayes doesn't realize that. And it shows just how in tune he is with the Philly Sports scene. It's embarrasing actually.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 29 @ 1:11 PM ET
We had Morganti and Greenberg. Say what you will about what Al has become on that goofball morning show but he was a tremendous hockey writer and even today when he turns a serious eye toward the sport the man knows what he's talking about.
- mayorofangrytown


True story: The only reason I ever had an ESPN Insider subscription was because, way back in the time before time, Al Morganti wrote for ESPN and the only way to read his really good stuff was to have an insider account.

I still enjoy Al when he talks hockey on post games shows, etc.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 29 @ 1:13 PM ET
Exactly, no way in hell he gets bought-out. Roman literally put up Vezina numbers in the season, and our teams shat the bed in the playoffs.
- Flyers_V88


Roman Cechmanek also played in what I would consider a different era under a much, much different type of coach.
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Jul 29 @ 1:16 PM ET
Roman Cechmanek also played in what I would consider a different era under a much, much different type of coach.
- johndewar

Agreed, but that doesn't take away from his play as a Flyer, coupled with Ken Hitchcock's anemic offense... He was right in everything he called out against the Flyers. I wish we had the new Ken Hitchcock back then, would have been a whole different story. Personally, even though Ken had great numbers, he hurt that team offensively and hurt the relationship he had with the players due to his ways.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 29 @ 1:17 PM ET
Agreed. He was the best goalie between the pipes in Philly in the last 15+ years and it's rare anyone has anything nice to say about him. You can thank Primeau and Recchi for that.
- mayorofangrytown



It's amazing how Primeau is so revered for one playoff series. He was great in that series, no doubt. But they rest of his Flyers career, he came up small.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 29 @ 1:20 PM ET
if Dawkins had won a Superbowl i think he'd be #1

but he didnt so I say its Bernie.. followed by Doc
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 29 @ 1:21 PM ET
if Dawkins had won a Superbowl i think he'd be #1

but he didnt so I say its Bernie.. followed by Doc

- Crimsoninja


Yep, this is about right.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 29 @ 1:21 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Bernie, Bunny, Bundy, Monday Quick Hits




leave it to bill to recognize larocque with not a peep out of engels
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
I got the chance to meet Bernie on several occassions.....the first being at St Hubert's High School when I was a teen. The last two times.....at Whole Foods by my work in Center City Philly. He was there shopping and as much as I didn't want to bother him, I of course had to. the first time he was shopping with his son. Was he annoyed that a fan interrupted his time with his son shopping? Not in the least. He took the time to chat for 5 mins with that Bernie smile on his face. he even took the time to introduce me to his son who also was so nice and had a nice smile on his face. On both occassions he was so nice. I've never been one to be star struck having met quiite a few Flyers over the years (Pelle was another one who was so nice) but every time I run into Bernie, I am in genuine awe.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 29 @ 1:23 PM ET

- feelingkettle



Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Jul 29 @ 1:27 PM ET
It's amazing how Primeau is so revered for one playoff series. He was great in that series, no doubt. But they rest of his Flyers career, he came up small.
- MJL

I'd tend to agree, but I'd say small is the wrong adjective to use, too much of a negative connotation. I just think people expected him to re-produce his 2000-2001 season where he essentially set career highs. If you look at his career, his offensive output never matched his projected output from the OHL, which I think put unrealistic expectations on him throughout his career.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
Agreed. "Flyers Insider," my eye. Sad that kids in this area grow up with the likes of him, John Boruk, Randy Miller, Frank Seravalli, and Sam Carchidi being foisted on them as the sources to read for Flyers and hockey info.
- Flyskippy



The Broad Street Bullies era Flyers also had tremendous local beat writers in Jack Chevalier and Bill Fleischman especially. The 1980s had the likes of Jay Greenberg and Al Morganti. A bit like the Flyers' teams of those eras, those were VERY tough acts to follow for anyone who came afterwards. Also it should be noted that, very quietly, Wayne Fish has been on the Flyers beat in Bucks County since Shero's final season as coach -- he's covered a lot of team history in that time.

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 29 @ 1:47 PM ET
Could we somehow email this to that lowlife? All of us, so he'd get like 300?

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 29 @ 1:50 PM ET
I can go along with all of this.

I will also fully admit to yelling "C'mon, Therien, hit somebody!" a bunch of times when he played. I'm fairly certain I wasn't alone there.

Between he and Keith Jones (with Clement pitching in), Flyers fans are pretty lucky, with respect to the color analysts the team has around.

- johndewar

I'm a big fan of Clement. Love when he and JJ do the games.

I never had any problems with Jackson. I'm in the minority, apparently....
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 29 @ 1:53 PM ET
I'm a big fan of Clement. Love when he and JJ do the games.

I never had any problems with Jackson. I'm in the minority, apparently....

- Giroux_Is_God



i like jackson too but he really needs to get rid of the ballbumper and bring back the 'stache
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