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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 28 @ 6:13 PM ET
Right now, the Flyers have 7 (if healthy) top-6 defensemen. Unless it's Meszaros and a mid-tier prospect or 4th+ round pick moving for him, I don't see the reason to add one more.
- jmatchett383


It not about just adding to the numbers. It's about improving the D core.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 28 @ 6:18 PM ET
Bill...are you a machine?
- AdamFrench


JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 28 @ 6:26 PM ET
It not about just adding to the numbers. It's about improving the D core.
- MJL

We have puck movers now. Maybe next year when Kimmo retires. With Kimmo, Gus, and Streit, though, our core is balanced between shutdown stay-at-home and puck moving.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 28 @ 6:26 PM ET
It not about just adding to the numbers. It's about improving the D core.
- MJL


Never mind, not even gonna start this.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 28 @ 6:26 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Cousins Preparing for Transition to Pro Game
- bmeltzer


Give Cousins film of Brad Marchand and tell him that is what you want him to become.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 28 @ 6:34 PM ET
As a tie-in, I wish we would have had Montreal Brashear and Calgary McCarthy. They were both good here, but they weren't the same terrors they were on their old teams. But I do love the McCarthy beating of Reid Simpson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUFgtR0mNQc

- jmatchett383

Wow. McCarthy was railin him. That's awesome. That's how you do it after someone cheapshots one of your teammates, as Dorny said.

You don't see that much anymore and it pisses me off, really.

Also....DORNY
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 28 @ 6:46 PM ET
Wow. McCarthy was railin him. That's awesome. That's how you do it after someone cheapshots one of your teammates, as Dorny said.

You don't see that much anymore and it pisses me off, really.

Also....DORNY

- Giroux_Is_God


Also: Tie Domi is a (frank)ing wussy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 28 @ 6:50 PM ET
We have puck movers now. Maybe next year when Kimmo retires. With Kimmo, Gus, and Streit, though, our core is balanced between shutdown stay-at-home and puck moving.
- JAKEw1234


If the opportunity presents itself to make the team better, it should be considered.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 28 @ 6:50 PM ET
Give Cousins film of Brad Marchand and tell him that is what you want him to become.
- Jsaquella

I could live with that
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 28 @ 6:54 PM ET
If the opportunity presents itself to make the team better, it should be considered.
- MJL


And what kind of players do you think the Flyers could trade for him that would make sense for the Leafs while making the Flyers a better team both now and in the long term?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 28 @ 6:55 PM ET
Give Cousins film of Dino Ciccarelli and tell him that is what you want him to become.
- Jsaquella


FTFY
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 28 @ 6:57 PM ET
And what kind of players do you think the Flyers could trade for him that would make sense for the Leafs while making the Flyers a better team both now and in the long term?
- jmatchett383


I guess you changed your mind? I think that's the difficult part. I think the cost of acquiring Franson would be too high. I think they'd ask for one of the Flyers young forwards. I like Franson, but not that much. Which is why I replied to the previous poster, that the cost for Franson would be higher then he suggested.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 28 @ 6:58 PM ET
FTFY
- jmatchett383


Good luck. Ciccarrelli scored over 600 goals and is in the Hall of Fame
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 28 @ 6:59 PM ET
I guess you changed your mind? I think that's the difficult part. I think the cost of acquiring Franson would be too high. I think they'd ask for one of the Flyers young forwards. I like Franson, but not that much. Which is why I replied to the previous poster, that the cost for Franson would be higher then he suggested.
- MJL


And that is why I would not want to move anything of significant value. If they want to move a player like Meszaros, who has past injury issues and is a FA this offseason, as well as one 2nd/3rd-tier asset, I'm all for it. Anything else doesn't seem to make much sense to me.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 28 @ 6:59 PM ET
Good luck. Ciccarrelli scored over 600 goals and is in the Hall of Fame
- MJL


Yes he did. And?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 28 @ 7:03 PM ET
Yes he did. And?
- jmatchett383


And it's not even remotely close to a reasonable expectation for Cousin. Therefore changing Jsaq's post from Marchand to Ciccarelli is a pipe dream. Even hoping Cousin's can become the player that Marchand is a stretch. But not completely unreasonable.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 28 @ 7:04 PM ET
And it's not even remotely close to a reasonable expectation for Cousin. Therefore changing Jsaq's post from Marchand to Ciccarelli is a pipe dream. Even hoping Cousin's can become the player that Marchand is a stretch.
- MJL


So showing him film of another fiery small guy who had no fear into going to the net and playing 6 inches and 25 pounds bigger than he was is not something you'd want him to emulate? I'm talking about the type of player I'd like him to play like, not score like.

I'm not sure where I'm saying I think he'll score even 300 goals. But as far as guys where you could show film and say, "Play like him," I think Dino is a fit. Same with Theo Fleury.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 28 @ 7:09 PM ET
So showing him film of another fiery small guy who had no fear into going to the net and playing 6 inches and 25 pounds bigger than he was is not something you'd want him to emulate? I'm talking about the type of player I'd like him to play like, not score like.

I'm not sure where I'm saying I think he'll score even 300 goals. But as far as guys where you could show film and say, "Play like him," I think Dino is a fit. Same with Theo Fleury.

- jmatchett383


The quote was to watch film and become the player. So you want him to become the player that Cicarelli was, except for the goal scoring part? Then there are other player that would make more sense as a comparison. It makes sense to assume that if you want a player to "become" a specific player, that all the attributes of that player would be part of that. Which is why I replied with basically stating that the suggestion of Cicarelli, is an unreasonable expectation. Fleury is another big time scorer. If your not scoring like they did, then your not playing like they did.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 28 @ 7:10 PM ET
The quote was to watch film and become the player. So you want him to become the player that Cicarelli was, except for the goal scoring part? Then there are other player that would make more sense as a comparison. It makes sense to assume that if you want a player to "become" a specific player, that all the attributes of that player would be part of that. Which is why I replied with basically stating that the suggestion of Cicarelli, is an unreasonable expectation.
- MJL


Cool story.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 28 @ 7:26 PM ET
Cool story.
- jmatchett383


I think having an expectation of Cousins becoming a player similar to Tyler Kennedy, Brandon Prust, or Danile Paille, is far more reasonable and realistic. Then Dino Ciccarelli or Theo Fleury.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 28 @ 7:27 PM ET
Give Cousins film of Brad Marchand and tell him that is what you want him to become.
- Jsaquella


Or just have him glued to Talbots side all camp long
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 28 @ 7:27 PM ET
The quote was to watch film and become the player. So you want him to become the player that Cicarelli was, except for the goal scoring part? Then there are other player that would make more sense as a comparison. It makes sense to assume that if you want a player to "become" a specific player, that all the attributes of that player would be part of that. Which is why I replied with basically stating that the suggestion of Cicarelli, is an unreasonable expectation. Fleury is another big time scorer. If your not scoring like they did, then your not playing like they did.
- MJL

You should be a lawyer, you argue literally everything.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 28 @ 8:11 PM ET
Also: Tie Domi is a (frank)ing wussy.
- jmatchett383

Pick fight
Skate to bench yapping
Hop onto bench
Drink and towel
Rinse
Repeat
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 28 @ 8:13 PM ET
FTFY
- jmatchett383

ARRRRGGGGGGHHEHEFKJL;ADJGKSLA;J WHAT IN THE HELL DOES THIS MEAN?!

I feel like I should know this fancy slang, since I'm 19
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 28 @ 8:15 PM ET
The quote was to watch film and become the player. So you want him to become the player that Cicarelli was, except for the goal scoring part? Then there are other player that would make more sense as a comparison. It makes sense to assume that if you want a player to "become" a specific player, that all the attributes of that player would be part of that. Which is why I replied with basically stating that the suggestion of Cicarelli, is an unreasonable expectation. Fleury is another big time scorer. If your not scoring like they did, then your not playing like they did.
- MJL

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