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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:10 PM ET
Considering Vanek is a UFA next year I think Buffalo would have to add another piece to make that happen, unless a Vanek extension was involved.
- MannySilvers

In his interview it sounded like he'd consider an extension with any team he's traded to

Also, it's a foregone conclusion that Vanek will sign in Minnesota if he gets to UFA
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 26 @ 12:11 PM ET
Considering Vanek is a UFA next year I think Buffalo would have to add another piece to make that happen, unless a Vanek extension was involved.
- MannySilvers


Of course it would be contingent on that. If he does not Buffalo would send something back.
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 26 @ 12:11 PM ET
I know it's a pretty weak jab, but I'm pretty sure you Jersey fans will be dealing with these jokes for a while haha
- SpoiledByOil


Yeah well you know the whole Kovalchuk situation has sort of set our franchise back at least 5 years so if we don't laugh about it we'll start throwing things.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jul 26 @ 12:12 PM ET
Rumors are in the $4MM range, but those are just rumors. But that is all we can base it off of at this point.

In honesty it could be language of the contract. NTC/NMC, term, etc. I have not heard anything in awhile, Darcy is good at keeping things quiet.

- ImThatGuy


Well they would have to sign him for at least 5 years to give him a NTC so I'm not sure it's that unless they are sold he's there No. 1 centre going forward.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jul 26 @ 12:13 PM ET
Not sure I liked any of those deals. I suppose the one with Detroit had some possibilities.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 26 @ 12:13 PM ET
Little bit, but to sweetened the deal because of the card. How about i throw in a FRAME picture of a smiling Gino Odjick?


- Frank0721



Pfft, you call that a smile....

This, this is a smile



KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:14 PM ET
Any idea what Cody thinks he's worth?

I'm thinking he's worth around 2-2.5 million per for 3 years.

- IanEsplen


I think that's a little low. Probably closer to $3M - $3.5M if for 3 years. Cody probably thinks he's worth $4M - $5M though.

His old buddy Duchene got $6M for 5 years. Cody probably doesn't think he's only worth half (or less) of that.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jul 26 @ 12:15 PM ET
Rumors are in the $4MM range, but those are just rumors. But that is all we can base it off of at this point.

In honesty it could be language of the contract. NTC/NMC, term, etc. I have not heard anything in awhile, Darcy is good at keeping things quiet.

- ImThatGuy


Gagner just signed for $4.8m, so $4m might look like a bargain.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:16 PM ET
Well they would have to sign him for at least 5 years to give him a NTC so I'm not sure it's that unless they are sold he's there No. 1 centre going forward.
- IanEsplen


Cody has proved already that he is not the sort of guy you hand a NTC to yet. Maybe in a few years, but not now. He has no leverage either. No need to give him that sort of thing yet.
Muskwa
Location: Somewhere down the lazy river
Joined: 03.26.2013

Jul 26 @ 12:16 PM ET
How about Eller + Beaulieu + Leblanc + 1st
- Frank0721

Eller is damaged goods. Concussion and shoulder surgery. Aim a little lower than Kane if you want a deal with the Jets.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jul 26 @ 12:16 PM ET
Why would they make Steve Ott captain when they could make Cody Hodgson's dad captain?
- KB3Point0


The real question should be why hasn't Cody's dad been named GM?

the Buffalo Hodgsons
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:18 PM ET
Gagner just signed for $4.8m, so $4m might look like a bargain.
- micah555


It probably would, but Cody hasn't really earned it yet.

The question is, does Buffalo want to lock him up long term at a reduced dollar value, or go for the smaller "bridge" contract that could potentially lead to a larger long term deal in 2 or 3 years?
Frank0721
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:19 PM ET
Pfft, you call that a smile....

This, this is a smile




- PatC80


Yeah, hard to compare, but the look on Odjick's face makes me think that he is asking himself how many potatoe can he stuff into his nose
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jul 26 @ 12:20 PM ET
Cody has proved already that he is not the sort of guy you hand a NTC to yet. Maybe in a few years, but not now. He has no leverage either. No need to give him that sort of thing yet.
- KB3Point0


agree 100%
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jul 26 @ 12:24 PM ET
It probably would, but Cody hasn't really earned it yet.

The question is, does Buffalo want to lock him up long term at a reduced dollar value, or go for the smaller "bridge" contract that could potentially lead to a larger long term deal in 2 or 3 years?

- KB3Point0


I don't mind Cody, but he has a lot of work to do in his own end before I'd commit long-term to him and make him one of my core guys.

Cody is a tier lower than Duchene, Kadri, Henrique, Gagner, etc... in my books.

soad_live
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Québec, QC
Joined: 10.23.2008

Jul 26 @ 12:25 PM ET
Eller is damaged goods. Concussion and shoulder surgery. Aim a little lower than Kane if you want a deal with the Jets.
- Muskwa


Eller is not damaged good. Just see what Pacioretty did after is broken neck.

As far as Kane is concern, i agree he is going nowhere.

What about Plekanec, Diaz and a 2nd for Bogosian?
Muskwa
Location: Somewhere down the lazy river
Joined: 03.26.2013

Jul 26 @ 12:34 PM ET
Eller is not damaged good. Just see what Pacioretty did after is broken neck.

As far as Kane is concern, i agree he is going nowhere.

What about Plekanec, Diaz and a 2nd for Bogosian?

- soad_live

I don't know about Chevy, but I'd do this deal.
soad_live
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Québec, QC
Joined: 10.23.2008

Jul 26 @ 12:36 PM ET
I don't know about Chevy, but I'd do this deal.
- Muskwa


I think we have in deal in the works sir.
Yzermanforever
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jul 26 @ 12:40 PM ET


To DET- Vanek and McNabb
For
To BUF- Tatar, Abdelkader a 2nd(turns to a 1st if Vanek resigns) and the Sabres keep some of Vaneks salary


Vanek and McNabb? No thanks, Tatar and Abdelkader are most likely going to be 3rd liners (tatar might be a bit better) and Vanek playing with Datsyuk pretty much guarantees that 2nd/1st will be a very low pick.

- Sabresfan-365


Tatar is easily a second liner. with the amount of potential he has he'll be well worth it in 1-2 years. As for aby he's a hard forechecker with some skill, but needs some/a fair bit of work. Saying that, I would remove McNabb to make the deal fair for both sides.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 26 @ 12:46 PM ET
Hodgson? A discontent forward?

Surely, you jest....


Oh, and #freeMarwood

- Fosco


I'm going to fast until our brothers are released!
RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Fosco's son, BC
Joined: 09.11.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:54 PM ET
I'm going to fast until our brothers are released!
- 1970vintage


What the hell happened to him?
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jul 26 @ 12:55 PM ET
Chompsey

To VAN- Halak and Pieterangelo
For
To STL- Jensen, Luongo, Edler and a 1st rd pick

My Thoughts- In theory, it's not too bad. But again, the Blues aren't dealing their franchise defenceman.

- IanEsplen

Yes, yes it is.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 26 @ 12:55 PM ET
Chompsey

To VAN- Halak and Pieterangelo
For
To STL- Jensen, Luongo, Edler and a 1st rd pick

My Thoughts- In theory, it's not too bad. But again, the Blues aren't dealing their franchise defenceman.




First of all, there is zero chance of the Blues trading for Luongo. ZERO.

Let alone including Petro in the deal.



Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jul 26 @ 12:55 PM ET
I'm going to fast until our brothers are released!
- 1970vintage


Me too....except for chocolate.

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 26 @ 1:00 PM ET

To: Van - B. Dubinsky + B. Jenner

To: CBJ - R. Kesler

Columbus gets a #1 C to play with Gaborik/Horton or both, and remove Dubinskys under performing $4.2m cap hit. Vancouver actually presses the "reset" button, adds another quality prospect down the middle and adds a little sandpaper to the top 9. Kesler does have a NTC, but Columbus is only a 3 hour bus ride from Livonia MI, so I think Kesler would waive to be so close to home. CBJ is right up against the cap, so there may need to be additional pieces one either side to sort out the salary.
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