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ShayneCorsi
Location: Teedot
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:12 AM ET
To WPG- Thomas Plekanec
For
To MTL- Evander Kane.




Winnipeg fans don't like turtlenecks!
Frank0721
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:12 AM ET
Plekanec for Kane

- Muskwa


Like I said, forgot to add a 2nd after re-writing the offer since my phone died. Please don't hurt me
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 26 @ 11:13 AM ET
I dont know where the discontent is coming from? They are in a negotiation at the moment Hodgson feels he is worth more than what Buffalo is offering, which happens all the time.

I dont make it out to be a huge deal like some are.

- ImThatGuy


You are correct. But when does this type of behaviour start to become a repetitive problem. If it's not playing time then it's not enough money. He obviously believes he doesn't get the respect that he deserves. Or at least his daddy thinks so.

Cody hasn't achieved much in his NHL career. Earn it first. He still has some growing up to do. That's why making him captain is ridicules.
ShayneCorsi
Location: Teedot
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:14 AM ET
Plekanec is arguably one of the top second line centers in the league. He has two-way skills and is a top notch penalty killer. His value is undeniable and probably at the heart of trade discussions (if any). However, I don't think the Jets are ready to part with Evander Kane.

Rumors in Chicago are that they are still looking for a top second line center. Montreal might be looking for a defenseman, considering Emelin won't be back before December. Without knowing how healthy he'll be when he comes back, adding a classy defenseman like Brent Seabrook would greatly reduce the impact.

I'm not so sure that Montreal is looking to move anyone before the season starts. If they decide to go forward and trade players, Plekanec would be a good value in a transaction.

- elcabong



Plekanec for Seabrook?

Yah that won't be enough for Seabrook.
Frank0721
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:15 AM ET
It would require more than Plekanec to get Seabrook.
- Scabeh


Agree. Last offer Friday, I offered Plek + Diaz + 1st. Think it would be a good start to the deal
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jul 26 @ 11:15 AM ET
You are correct. But when does this type of behaviour start to become a repetitive problem. If it's not playing time then it's not enough money. He obviously believes he doesn't get the respect that he deserves. Or at least his daddy thinks so.

Cody hasn't achieved much in his NHL career. Earn it first. He still has some growing up to do. That's why making him captain is ridicules.

- bloatedmosquito


Are you guys actually believing that crap? It was a troll. Jesus.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 26 @ 11:17 AM ET
Are you guys actually believing that crap? It was a troll. Jesus.
- Boinker


What part of it is crap?

The captaincy or the not being signed part?
ShayneCorsi
Location: Teedot
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:18 AM ET
Like I said, forgot to add a 2nd after re-writing the offer since my phone died. Please don't hurt me
- Frank0721


I hope you learned your lesson!!
Honestly, I don't think WPG will part with him yet. The kid has so much potential. Why would MTL need him any way when you have Gally and Galchenyuk doing well
?
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 26 @ 11:21 AM ET
I hope you learned your lesson!!
Honestly, I don't think WPG will part with him yet. The kid has so much potential. Why would MTL need him any way when you have Gally and Galchenyuk doing well
?

- Captain_Quiffe


I can see him pulling a Patrick Kane and getting past his off ice shenanigans to really reach his potential. Something about those Kane's...
RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Fosco's son, BC
Joined: 09.11.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:22 AM ET
To WPG- Thomas Plekanec
For
To MTL- Evander Kane.




Winnipeg fans don't like turtlenecks!

- Captain_Quiffe

Plek and galli would get it started for winnipeg but montreal wouldn't do that.
E. Kane is basically their franchise player and won't give him up for an aging player that doesn't score the goals that he has.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 26 @ 11:23 AM ET
Are you guys actually believing that crap? It was a troll. Jesus.
- Boinker


What am I trolling about?

He is asking for more than the Sabres feel he is worth; which happens all the time in negotiations.

I'm most woried about his dad like has been said before. And also IFF this keeps up, it then becomes a problem. Right now I dont see it as one.
Frank0721
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:24 AM ET
I hope you learned your lesson!!
Honestly, I don't think WPG will part with him yet. The kid has so much potential. Why would MTL need him any way when you have Gally and Galchenyuk doing well
?

- Captain_Quiffe


I did, never trust your phone when the battery is red .
Doubt Winnipeg will part ways too but it's worth a try. Lots of rumors last year and at the draft that he would be available. And MTL would need him since beside Paccioretty, we have no offensive LW. All RW and centres. Gally is RW and Galchenyuk will eventually play centre. A line of Kane-Galchenyuk-Gallagher sounds soooo good
willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

Jul 26 @ 11:26 AM ET
To WPG- Thomas Plekanec
For
To MTL- Evander Kane.




Winnipeg fans don't like turtlenecks!

- Captain_Quiffe


I think a Plekanec for Kane trade would work. I don't think, actually I know a 1 for 1 would not work but Habs also have the prospect components to get this done. It's a deal that can certianly work for both
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 26 @ 11:28 AM ET
To Fla - Luongo, Edler, Sedin (pick one)

To Van - Markstrom, Gudbranson, 2014 & 2015 1st Rounder

Fireworks.
Frank0721
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:31 AM ET
I think a Plekanec for Kane trade would work. I don't think, actually I know a 1 for 1 would not work but Habs also have the prospect components to get this done. It's a deal that can certianly work for both
- willey101


Interesting, perhaps Beaulieu, Leblanc, Collberg, Thrower, could fetch some interests. I would think habs will pass if any of Gally, Galchy and Tinordi is involved, but as for the rest, it's possible
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 26 @ 11:32 AM ET
To Fla - Luongo, Edler, Sedin (pick one)

To Van - Markstrom, Gudbranson, 2014 & 2015 1st Rounder

Fireworks.

- MannySilvers


Florida would have to give back Campbell in that deal for salary reasons.
RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Fosco's son, BC
Joined: 09.11.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:33 AM ET
To Fla - Luongo, Edler, Sedin (pick one)

To Van - Markstrom, Gudbranson, 2014 & 2015 1st Rounder

Fireworks.

- MannySilvers

Nope. 2-3 prospects and will add the 2nd sedin...
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jul 26 @ 11:35 AM ET
What am I trolling about?

He is asking for more than the Sabres feel he is worth; which happens all the time in negotiations.

I'm most woried about his dad like has been said before. And also IFF this keeps up, it then becomes a problem. Right now I dont see it as one.

- ImThatGuy


Any idea what Cody thinks he's worth?

I'm thinking he's worth around 2-2.5 million per for 3 years.
Muskwa
Location: Somewhere down the lazy river
Joined: 03.26.2013

Jul 26 @ 11:39 AM ET
Like I said, forgot to add a 2nd after re-writing the offer since my phone died. Please don't hurt me
- Frank0721

Jets won't move Kane unless they get a top 3 forward under 25 and prospects/drafts to boot.

They Jets would view Plekanec for Kane the same way Habs would view Little for Subban.
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 26 @ 11:39 AM ET
To FLA: washed up goalie, washed up defenseman, sissy whose useless without his sister
To VAN: Better goalie, younger and better future, Better defenseman, younger and better future, 2 1st round picks, likely lottery picks

so fair.

- razr


It's the classic "currently good vs potentially good" trade. If Markstrom and Gudbranson pan out and the Canucks got two very solid players with those picks, FLA gets fleeced. On the flip side if one or both of those guys really disappoints, plus you never know how picks will pan out, FLA could "win" the trade handily. Sedin is still very very skilled and Luongo is still an elite goalie IMO. Maybe make that 2nd 1st rounder a 2nd instead? Maybe make it conditional on Sedin resigning? Just spit-ballin here.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
I think a Plekanec for Kane trade would work. I don't think, actually I know a 1 for 1 would not work but Habs also have the prospect components to get this done. It's a deal that can certianly work for both
- willey101


If I had to guess, Winnipeg would probably want Galchenyuk and Jarred Tinordi for Kane.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 26 @ 11:44 AM ET
If I had to guess, Winnipeg would probably want Galchenyuk and Jarred Tinordi for Kane.
- PatC80


Good lord.

Wouldn't even trade Galchenyuk alone for him.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 26 @ 11:46 AM ET
Good lord.

Wouldn't even trade Galchenyuk alone for him.

- Scabeh


Either would I, but I think that would be where Winnipeg starts the conversation.

Frank0721
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jul 26 @ 11:46 AM ET
Jets won't move Kane unless they get a top 3 forward under 25 and prospects/drafts to boot.

They Jets would view Plekanec for Kane the same way Habs would view Little for Subban.

- Muskwa


Well Plek is 30 which is not that bad. So if they do Plek + Beaulieu + 2nd you still think it's not enough?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 26 @ 11:47 AM ET
Any idea what Cody thinks he's worth?

I'm thinking he's worth around 2-2.5 million per for 3 years.

- IanEsplen


Rumors are in the $4MM range, but those are just rumors. But that is all we can base it off of at this point.

In honesty it could be language of the contract. NTC/NMC, term, etc. I have not heard anything in awhile, Darcy is good at keeping things quiet.
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