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Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:31 PM ET
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'm going to answer anyways:

From the guys that go the other way.

Unless you think the Leafs can get him for a 2nd round draft pick.

- Atomic Wedgie


then Colorado gets nothing out of the deal
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:32 PM ET
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'm going to answer anyways:

From the guys that go the other way.

Unless you think the Leafs can get him for a 2nd round draft pick.

- Atomic Wedgie

Sure Mr. Vick
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:32 PM ET
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'm going to answer anyways:

From the guys that go the other way.

Unless you think the Leafs can get him for a 2nd round draft pick.

- Atomic Wedgie


I get that..but in his scenario he still had Bozak on our center list...
So I would guess it would be Bolland and Liles....that would be funny.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:35 PM ET
Sure Mr. Vick
- RickJames77


Vick wasn't betting on the dogs, he was just funding the kennel.
betting on the dogs would have represented a conflict of interest.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jul 25 @ 4:35 PM ET
then Colorado gets nothing out of the deal
- Gary_B.


Colorado is just going to have to accept that they aren't going to get much for a 6.5 million dollar, sub-50 point player.

The big spenders are kind of tapped out right now and the broke teams are, well... Still broke.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 25 @ 4:36 PM ET
Yeah, but its unrealistic as hell. And I'm aware of that.
And I don't think Stastny will hit 6.5 again unless its in FA. If we resigned him when we got him via trade, it'd be cheaper.

But it wouldn't be a bad trade on all level. We'd upgrade at C. Thats a good thing.

- UsernameUnknown

Leafs are in a weird place right now - they aren't many easy roster spots to point to that they still need to fill (despite them not being a top tier team).

Top two lines are pretty much set at the wings.

For various reasons, the centres are pretty much set, unless somebody decides to hand us an upgrade. Lord knows I'm not a Bozak fan, but they just handed him a new deal, so I'm assuming he isn't going anywhere. Kadri goes nowhere. Bolland goes nowhere. McClement is darn good at what he does.

So you have bottom two line wingers that you can screw around with - but don't expect much impact there.

On d, we have too many guys. Obvious moves are to jettison Liles (not going to happen - nobody wants him) and to get a guy to play with Dion (can't happen unless we jettison Liles).

Goalies: long term, Reimer gets moved. But not until trade deadline at earliest, as his salary is low.

So unless you can engineer a trade where we take 4 B players and swap them for an A player (EA Sports - if it's in the game, it doesn't actually mean it is in the game), I think we are probably pretty set.

Sucks to be us.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 25 @ 4:36 PM ET
Stupid move, 5 years off of 48 games??!?!
- robin_steele264

Fire Peewieny
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:38 PM ET
Vick wasn't betting on the dogs, he was just funding the kennel.
betting on the dogs would have represented a conflict of interest.

- Gary_B.



Everyone's a critic
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 25 @ 4:39 PM ET
I don't give a (frank)

I hate those damn commercials

- RickJames77

Commercials?

It was a reference to the tv show Alice, which I suspect went off the air before you were born.

You didn't miss anything.

Although the kid who played Tommy (Alice's son) was the brother of Nancy McKeon from Facts of Life.

Yes, I know - absolutely fascinating.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:41 PM ET
Commercials?

It was a reference to the tv show Alice, which I suspect went off the air before you were born.

You didn't miss anything.

Although the kid who played Tommy (Alice's son) was the brother of Nancy McKeon from Facts of Life.

Yes, I know - absolutely fascinating.

- Atomic Wedgie

I was talking about Flo from the Progressive commercials at first and thought that was some obscure reference to a possible progressive commercial that airs in Canada and not in the US. Are there even progressive commercials in CA?
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:43 PM ET
Colorado is just going to have to accept that they aren't going to get much for a 6.5 million dollar, sub-50 point player.

The big spenders are kind of tapped out right now and the broke teams are, well... Still broke.

- Leeman4Gilmour


definitely. but why get rid of him if they're not getting any cap relief? he's still a solid player.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 25 @ 4:44 PM ET
I get that..but in his scenario he still had Bozak on our center list...
So I would guess it would be Bolland and Liles....that would be funny.

- Cooshie

I honestly don't know who has less value: Bozak or Stastny.

And I don't like Bozak.

$6.6 milly, one year left on his contract, and he's been meh for three years.

You don't want Bozak for him?

OK - fine with me.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:45 PM ET


Everyone's a critic

- RickJames77


look a conflict of interest is a pretty serious matter and it's something you need to be very wary and conscious of when you're running a business. reputation is everything.
Snagglepuss
Joined: 08.07.2012

Jul 25 @ 4:46 PM ET
If the leafs ever want a real shot at the playoffs bozak is not the number 1 center that's gonna bring them the cup. They should of went after somebody way better then him. Don't ask me who but he's not the answer
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:46 PM ET
look a conflict of interest is a pretty serious matter and it's something you need to be very wary and conscious of when you're running a business. reputation is everything.
- Gary_B.

Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:47 PM ET
If the leafs ever want a real shot at the playoffs bozak is not the number 1 center that's gonna bring them the cup. They should of went after somebody way better then him. Don't ask me who but he's not the answer
- Snagglepuss


im pretty sure they made the playyofs like 3 months ago
thehockeygod
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cloud 9, Halo County , ON
Joined: 05.28.2012

Jul 25 @ 4:47 PM ET
Franson and Kulemin for Stastny?
- DDM-Coga



NOOOOOOOOOOOOPE

KULEMIN IS STAYING PUT!
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jul 25 @ 4:48 PM ET
definitely. but why get rid of him if they're not getting any cap relief? he's still a solid player.
- Gary_B.


They might just hang on to him and let him walk at the end of the season, but you'd think a rebuilding team might want to get something for him.

They're in a really awkward spot with him. They really should trade him, and in a normal year they would be able to.

But any team with a spare 6.6 million bucks could just as easily go out and sign Grabo + Hainsey, which costs no assets and probably improves your team even more.
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:49 PM ET
i want a zonkey
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jul 25 @ 4:50 PM ET
If the leafs ever want a real shot at the playoffs bozak is not the number 1 center that's gonna bring them the cup. They should of went after somebody way better then him. Don't ask me who but he's not the answer
- Snagglepuss


I'll forward this to Nonis...

MEMO

Re: Getting better players
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:51 PM ET
I honestly don't know who has less value: Bozak or Stastny.

And I don't like Bozak.

$6.6 milly, one year left on his contract, and he's been meh for three years.

You don't want Bozak for him?

OK - fine with me.

- Atomic Wedgie


Right, that's what I said earlier.
IMO Bozak@ 4.2mill > Stastny @ 6.5mill - mostly because that extra 2.5mill cap number will be a very bad addition for the Leafs.
I also get that Stastny is only 1yr left but some bozo is going to give him a big payday because he is still fairly young and had a good season 4 to 5yrs ago....
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 25 @ 4:51 PM ET
I was talking about Flo from the Progressive commercials at first and thought that was some obscure reference to a possible progressive commercial that airs in Canada and not in the US. Are there even progressive commercials in CA?
- RickJames77

Yes, we get US stations. OK, bear with me here, because this gets confusing:

If a US network and Canadian network are playing the same show, then we automatically get the Canadian network feed, even if we are watching the US network. Including the commercials that the Canadian network is airing.

But if it isn't on a Canadian network at the exact same time, we can watch US networks and commercials.

You think that's confusing?

I should talk to you about the Equalization Program amongst Canadian provinces.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jul 25 @ 4:51 PM ET
Realistically, I wouldn't either. I'm just ready to ship out Bozak.
- UsernameUnknown

#firebozak
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 25 @ 4:52 PM ET
If the leafs ever want a real shot at the playoffs bozak is not the number 1 center that's gonna bring them the cup. They should of went after somebody way better then him. Don't ask me who but he's not the answer
- Snagglepuss


Agree and Disagree...
Leafs have a real shot at the playoffs, even with Bozak at 1C (for now)...but they won't be cup contenders with Bozak as their 1C.
stevecarpetman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.05.2011

Jul 25 @ 4:53 PM ET
So Mirtle and DGB think the 5 year deal is idiodic and a sign of more incompetence
- senstroll


Here's my take. Leiweke said to Nonis. "I want a 1 year plan, 3 year plan and a 5 year plan on my desk by X time."

Nonis handed him a plan and forecast that made sense to both the ice and the boardroom so he locked him up for the entire plan.

That is how business is done.
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