Yup. Exactly what I said.
Gotta give to get. I don't think if Fransons value will get any higher than it is right now. If we can use that to upgrade at C then that's okay with me.
Disagree with it, but don't moan and groan about it
- UsernameUnknown

I don't know if I personally would do this...

But I also haven't seen as much of Franson as you probably have

I don't know if I personally would do this...

But I also haven't seen as much of Franson as you probably have
- RickJames77

serious question RJ...

thoughts on the seguin trade?

So we are going to give Franson to upgrade Bozak to Stastny?
OH MY!! LOL

Not moaning and groaning, just laughing at the stupidity of it all.
Leaf fans - laughing stock for a reason!
- Cooshie

I like your maturity, kiddo.

Gardiner
- vermie22

Gardiner for Strome

I don't know if I personally would do this...

But I also haven't seen as much of Franson as you probably have
- RickJames77

Realistically, I wouldn't either. I'm just ready to ship out Bozak.

I like your maturity, kiddo.
- UsernameUnknown

You have been on a role with your Leaf thoughts...

Stastny and Grobovski, your dream team top 2 centers!! LOL

Edit - I forgot the best part - that's like 12 Million in salary between the 2 of them, right? AAAAAAWESOOOOOOOOOME!!

I realize they can get rid of him anytime and it's just money...but why do it in the first place, just give him 3yrs and extend if he is doing a good job. I get the whole idea of a 5yr plan so to not make hasty decisions but the flip side is that it can create complacency as well.
Oh well, I guess no biggie cause MLSE prints money so whatever.
- Cooshie

I could see complacency if it was a guaranteed term/contract. But everyone stepping into that role knows the rammifications of failure.. if he doesn't then yeesh

Gardiner for Strome
- Lipchitz

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!

edit - and I am a big Gardiner fan!

Leafs were nothing more then lucky last season

http://www.hockeyabstract.com/luck
- Muskoka88

Compare that to our OT games and it evens out really. Thanks though.

You have been on a role with your Leaf thoughts...

Stastny and Grobovski, your dream team top 2 centers!! LOL
- Cooshie

Grabovski > Bozak.

Stastny > Bozak.

Fairly simple concept.

Grabovski > Bozak.

Stastny > Bozak.

Fairly simple concept.
- UsernameUnknown

I agree Stats is better than Bozey without a doubt. I'm sure stats would return to pt a game player if he lined up with Lupul and Kessel. However Grabbo I don't think is better than Bozak. His game is too sporadic in my honest opinion.

Grabovski > Bozak.

Stastny > Bozak.

Fairly simple concept.
- UsernameUnknown

How about this:
Bozak @ 4.2mill > Grabovski @ 5.5mill
Kadri @ 3-4mill (??) > Stastny @6.5mill

Fairly simple concept, huh?

serious question RJ...

thoughts on the seguin trade?
- dragus84

My thoughts...partying aspect, although probably a problem, was blown out of proportion. I think the Bruins are trying to snag another cup in the next, say 3 years, (I know that's stating the obvious) and mortgaging some of the future for an IMO immediate upgrade at wing for at least a season in Eriksson. I think they also knew they wanted to tie up Bergeron and Rask to long term contracts and kind of came to the recognition that they would have to part with Seguin to keep their 'core' together. Krejci, Bergeron, Rask, Lucic, and Seguin just isn't going to happen and Seguin was the most expendable and found himself on the outside looking in. Cap wise, partying wise, and quite frankly a lack of production left the Bruins with their hands tied. I don't like that they gave up on him so young, and actually I'm not convinced they did give up on him. I just think it was the path of least resistance and possibly the pinnacle return of the Stanley Cup. It also allowed to go out and get someone like Iginla, which was in the back of their mind throughout the proccess.

That being said, I think Seguin is going to have a great career, when he gets his poop together, which I think he will. I just think he didn't quite fit in, grasp, wait for it, Claude's system. Plus he is just awful in the playoffs

Silverlining...Bruins core is still relatively young and made the bullet easier to swallow, and Eriksson steadily puts up 70-80 points and Morrow is a very good prospect IMO.

Pardon the novela

I agree Stats is better than Bozey without a doubt. I'm sure stats would return to pt a game player if he lined up with Lupul and Kessel. However Grabbo I don't think is better than Bozak. His game is too sporadic in my honest opinion.
- Seitch2

Fair enough. I've seen Grabo put up better point totals consistantly with worse line mates than what Bozak has though.

Grabovski > Bozak.

Stastny > Bozak.

Fairly simple concept.
- UsernameUnknown

Grabbo can be out muscled by 95% of the league. He sucked last year because he wasn't motivated all season because of his contract. love the guy.. but he deserved the buy out.

How about this:
Bozak @ 4.2mill > Grabovski @ 5.5mill
Kadri @ 3-4mill (??) > Stastny @6.5mill

Fairly simple concept, huh?
- Cooshie

At one point did I bring up money? Jesus you're just trying to be a douche today.
Get over it.

being a habs fan I love the 5 year extension, wish burkey was still there, but nonis is the same type. give him 3 years before fired, 2 years before they buyout clarkson

Grabbo can be out muscled by 95% of the league. He sucked last year because he wasn't motivated all season because of his contract. love the guy.. but he deserved the buy out.
- Jay Uller

Serious question...

Wasn't there rumors floating around that he was sick or something? Could this have had an affect on last year's play?

Grabbo can be out muscled by 95% of the league. He sucked last year because he wasn't motivated all season because of his contract. love the guy.. but he deserved the buy out.
- Jay Uller

I agree, really. He tanked last year. Could have been a number of things. But I would have gave him another shot in an offensive role before the boot

Fair enough. I've seen Grabo put up better point totals consistantly with worse line mates than what Bozak has though.
- UsernameUnknown

Of course, but with Kessel already a hot/cold player and Kadri starting to look the same way its nice that the leafs can rely on a guy that brings what they know he can just about every night. But honestly, I would've done whatever it took to land Statsny from Col or signing Lecavalier (even if he wanted a baby elephant from India and 6M dollars) just to shore up that 1st line position until they can see for sure if Kadri continues to get stronger and smarter.

I agree, really. He tanked last year. Could have been a number of things. But I would have gave him another shot in an offensive role before the boot
- UsernameUnknown

This

At one point did I bring up money? Jesus you're just trying to be a douche today.
Get over it.
- UsernameUnknown

Right, because if the Leafs traded for Stastny and kept Grabovski, they would have no problems with signing all their RFA's....

however, even if we forget about money.

Kadri > Stastny
Bozak > Grabovski

Liewy: Dave, you have 5 years to bring a Cup here...here's your contract

Nonis:

Serious question...

Wasn't there rumors floating around that he was sick or something? Could this have had an affect on last year's play?
- RickJames77

Crohns and yes def

Liewy: Dave, you have 5 years to bring a Cup here...here's your contract

Nonis:
- JIMI-JAMES

Says, Yes Sir..