Owning me

http://www.theglobeandmai...gardiner/article10567593/

As sharp as a dull knife.
- honesthockey

Sharp enough to be invited to the USA Olympic camp.

I'll take internationally acclaimed scouts and coaches opinions over your's and the "Globe and Mail."

Kessel has great chemistry with AHL scrubs. He can play with anyone and look good.

Remember when everyone said he'd never score without Savard?

Owning me


- honesthockey

Yes. Owning you with your own stupidity.. That makes you look even more stupid.

The only points you can bring up is the fact Carlyle played him.


But when it comes to Gardiner, Kostka and Holzer, whom Carlyle played, it doesnt matter.


So next time you think about talking poop about Gardiner, you have no right too. Because it goes against your own logic.

Now get to bed, its 7. Dont want the nurses at the old folks home getting mad at you.

Sharp enough to be invited to the USA Olympic camp.

I'll take internationally acclaimed scouts and coaches opinions over your's and the "Globe and Mail."
- Compeyson

Using his own logic against him to make him look even more stupid.


Hilarious.

Stone hands, yet he's our best shootout option. Stone hands, yet he finishes in tight, stone hands, yet in his first NHL goal he was seen completely undressing a defender and going top ched. Low IQ, yet he is the one responsible for 70% of our faceoffs, the powerplay, the penalty kill, the defensive responsibilities on our top line, and a lot of the time a big play, goal or assist in a crucial moment. You have an extremely low hockey IQ, not to notice the things Bozak does well out there and thats pretty much all there is to it. I'd love to see you put up 128 points in 59 games of JR A. Must be because he has no skill set.
- Rysko81

And now you have met jbold.

Ok, it appears what I thought was a simple point was lost on a few people.

I was pointing out how ridiculous it would be to draw assumptions from that pathetically small sample period..

We're talking about a 22 game difference in retartedly small sample periods. They're both ridiculous to draw conclusions from.
- joel878

You used a young, healthy-in-his-prime star as an example against a guy who looked incredibly worn-down and did nothing last season. I think that is the point you are missing.

It's Grabo that had ZERO chemistry with JVR, Lupul, and Kessel. Negative chemistry, in fact. At least Bozak doesn't harm their play. The top six wingers had no idea where Grabo was going when they played together.
- fifty__missions

Actually not true. Grabo and JVR had good chemistry for what little time they had together but Lupul got hurt I think and had to take his place. Not 100% sure it was the Lupul injury that broke them up, but I know it wasn't because of lack of chemistry

If the Leafs signed a guy who just scored 3 goals you'd be going crazy and bringing that up.
- RogerRoeper

To that contract? You're (frank)ing right I would.

But that wasn't the (frank)ing point. The point was when you look at their careers side by side, it's a little scary how there's even a small chance that clowes contract may end up being less of a headache than clarksons in the end.

Sharp enough to be invited to the USA Olympic camp.

I'll take internationally acclaimed scouts and coaches opinions over your's and the "Globe and Mail."
- Compeyson

Chosen by Burkie to attend. Awesome. How'd that work out for Burkie in TO?

Pretty much this!

My main reason is because he comes about 1.3 mill cheaper against the cap.
- Cooshie

MSLE gets MUCH more for their $ than the over paid, erratic, inconsistent, bad attitude Grabbo. Why some members of Leaf Nation have a hard on love affair with Grabbo is illogical.

Yes. Owning you with your own stupidity.. That makes you look even more stupid.

The only points you can bring up is the fact Carlyle played him.


But when it comes to Gardiner, Kostka and Holzer, whom Carlyle played, it doesnt matter.


So next time you think about talking poop about Gardiner, you have no right too. Because it goes against your own logic.

Now get to bed, its 7. Dont want the nurses at the old folks home getting mad at you.
- jbold

Where did I say anything about him playing anyone besides Bozak?

To that contract? You're (frank)ing right I would.

But that wasn't the (frank)ing point. The point was when you look at their careers side by side, it's a little scary how there's even a small chance that clowes contract may end up being less of a headache than clarksons in the end.
- joel878

Very flawed argument. Clowe isn't the player he once was. Should I compare Jagr to Phil Kessel and say Jagr is better because his career is easily better?

Chosen by Burkie to attend. Awesome. How'd that work out for Burkie in TO?
- honesthockey

You mean the guy who brought Bozak to the Leafs?


Doesnt matter though. Scouts and GMs drafted him, and Burke has a cup ring. Therefor he knows more than you. So. Yeah.


Owned, again.

Sharp enough to be invited to the USA Olympic camp.

I'll take internationally acclaimed scouts and coaches opinions over your's and the "Globe and Mail."
- Compeyson

The Globe and Mail was wrong? He wasn't a healthy scratch?

Oh and btw, Bozak was only 5 ft 6 when he scored 128 pts in JR A, he went through a crazy growth spurt the following year at U of D and grew 5-6 inches, which gave him a chance to turn scouts heads and eventually sign with an NHL club.

People get so wrapped up in salaries and years on contracts they forget about how what matters a lot is if the team will be better next season.

You used a young, healthy-in-his-prime star as an example against a guy who looked incredibly worn-down and did nothing last season. I think that is the point you are missing.
- RogerRoeper

It's irrelevant. I used two players who have had relatively consistent careers in different aspects, aside from a poopty stretch. It would be ridiculous to write out how either players careers will go from this point forward based on those periods alone when the rest of their careers have been pretty consistent. Yes, ones career is a lot more predictable than the other, but it doesn't change the crystal ball aspect.

Do you understand?

You mean the guy who brought Bozak to the Leafs?


Doesnt matter though. Scouts and GMs drafted him, and Burke has a cup ring. Therefor he knows more than you. So. Yeah.


Owned, again.
- jbold

And again how did that work out for him?

You mean the guy who brought Bozak to the Leafs?


Doesnt matter though. Scouts and GMs drafted him, and Burke has a cup ring. Therefor he knows more than you. So. Yeah.


Owned, again.
- jbold

How's that all working for Burkie right now?

Big picture guys leafs are better this year than last. At the end of the day you can dissect all the little stuff all you want. The team is getting better. Good young D core coming up. 2 good young goalies. Solid forwards that admittedly need some upgrades most notably at 1 C but there are no realistic options available to fix that right now. Cap will be going up and the leafs will have money next year and the year after to upgrade with UFAs if they find a fit. The peanut is moving in the right direction IMO

Very flawed argument. Clowe isn't the player he once was. Should I compare Jagr to Phil Kessel and say Jagr is better because his career is easily better?
- RogerRoeper

Holy (frank).

My original comparison was between clowe and Clarkson. You want to tell me that's comparing kessel to jagr?

And again who did that work out for him?
- honesthockey

Burke. A GM who won a cup. Know more than you.

Therefor, his opinion on Gardiner>>>Yours.



Your own stupid logic, not mine.



Owned, again.

It's irrelevant. I used two players who have had relatively consistent careers in different aspects, aside from a poopty stretch. It would be ridiculous to write out how either players careers will go from this point forward based on those periods alone when the rest of their careers have been pretty consistent. Yes, ones career is a lot more predictable than the other, but it doesn't change the crystal ball aspect.

Do you understand?
- joel878

No it's not. You're trying the "Small Sample " to excuse Clowe's deal and make it look much better than Clarkson's.

Holy (frank).

My original comparison was between clowe and Clarkson. You want to tell me that's comparing kessel to jagr?
- joel878

Missing my point I see. It's not about the players, it's about how you're comparing overall careers to how the players are in 2013'.

Burke. A GM who won a cup. Know more than you.

Therefor, his opinion on Gardiner>>>Yours.



Your own stupid logic, not mine.



Owned, again.
- jbold

How has his opinion of Gardiner worked out for him so far?