Yea shame on GM's like Dean lombardi for taking huge risks at the deadline. All it got was a stanley cup. Great job Gillis. You kept your piece and you developed him nicely and got yourself this great player. We as canuck fans are so happy that you didnt take any chances in 2011 when we had the chance to win it all. Keeping CS was the right move. Who needs a cup anyways. That stuff is overrated.
- Bluechip23

It's pretty unlikely that they could have gotten much for Schneider at the trade deadline in 2011. What kind of value do you get for a goalie prospect with 30 games of NHL experience over 3 years???

Yea shame on GM's like Dean lombardi for taking huge risks at the deadline. All it got was a stanley cup. Great job Gillis. You kept your piece and you developed him nicely and got yourself this great player. We as canuck fans are so happy that you didnt take any chances in 2011 when we had the chance to win it all. Keeping CS was the right move. Who needs a cup anyways. That stuff is overrated.
- Bluechip23

How is the comparison of Lombardi and Gillis in this situation relevant at all???

Who would turn down $64 million? Who would say, "I am not worth that"? Put it in proper context. If your boss offers you a raise, are you gonna say "No, I didn't work hard enough, I don't deserve it"?

The canucks have been trying to trade him for well over a year now, how is that holding up there end of the contract? Or did you miss that part?
- PatC80

Here's the thing, and this is simply my opinion, but I think Luongo is a pretty arrogant guy, and at that point in his career, he wanted to be the highest paid player in the league (or around there), and the Canucks were happy to oblige, because they felt that he was worth every penny. The only way to pay him the $10million was to stretch the contract out so that the cap hit made sense for the team as a whole. So I think Luongo pushed for that dollar amount, rather than it being offered.

Who would turn down $64 million? Who would say, "I am not worth that"? Put it in proper context. If your boss offers you a raise, are you gonna say "No, I didn't work hard enough, I don't deserve it"?

The canucks have been trying to trade him for well over a year now, how is that holding up there end of the contract? Or did you miss that part?
- PatC80

Lu was heading for UFA. He was going to get paid, either with the Canucks or with someone else. He decided for the long-term commitment to the Canucks.

And I wasn't aware that NHL teams weren't allowed to shop their players...

So, Lu has two bad games, where he was hung out to dry in both, then decides, Corey is better suited for this?
- PatC80

I didn't say it was the right decision, but it was certainly a factor. Schneider did play better than Lu in his three games. This is a results based business, Lu didn't get results, the coach thought he needed to make a change, do you blame Gillis for that too?

Definitely an assumption, but for a team with a glaring weakness in net, and a proven young goalie like Schneider available, and with Tampa still in the Southeast hunt, I think Vancouver would get the first round pick, plus a prospect (Cory Conacher) and possibly a depth player. Just my opinion... I don't think it's outlandish. I just don't think think that Gillis was offering Schneider at the deadline.
- BruHAWK

Look at what other goalies have brought back in trades over the past 20 years. That would be by far the best return in a trade for a goalie in over 2 decades, probably much longer. Just completely unrealistic.

And you're right, I don't think Gillis was offering Schneider at the deadline, but for the right price any player can be made available.

Why is everyone so damn worried about Roberto's feelings? He signed the contract. Honor it. Who cares if he was told he would be traded? They couldn't get anything worthwhile for him, so they traded the other guy. It's a (frank)ing business.
- nucks_94

I think they only care about his feelings because they want him to a) show up and play and b) play at the absolute top of his game.

Look at what other goalies have brought back in trades over the past 20 years. That would be by far the best return in a trade for a goalie in over 2 decades, probably much longer. Just completely unrealistic.

And you're right, I don't think Gillis was offering Schneider at the deadline, but for the right price any player can be made available.
- KB3Point0

Quick question. How many number one goalies, with term, at the prime of their career have been available at the trade deadline?

That makes no sense.. Yes, Luongo signed that contract, who wouldn't? Would any person actually say "no, I am not worth that much"? Is Luongo the one who decided Schneider should start?
- PatC80

So the Canucks owe Luongo, but he should only have to honour his part of the contract if he feels like it? Yeah, that makes sense.

Who would turn down $64 million? Who would say, "I am not worth that"? Put it in proper context. If your boss offers you a raise, are you gonna say "No, I didn't work hard enough, I don't deserve it"?

The canucks have been trying to trade him for well over a year now, how is that holding up there end of the contract? Or did you miss that part?
- PatC80

BECAUSE HE ASKED THEM TO.

I think they only care about his feelings because they want him to a) show up and play and b) play at the absolute top of his game.
- KB3Point0

Great! I hope he shows up, plays lights out, wins the Gold medal, vezina, and conn smythe. I would assume that he'd want to do that as well.

If he's going to hold a grudge to the point that it affects his game, he will lose his starting job again, and he should probably just stay home. But he'll still be property of the Canucks.

Quick question. How many number one goalies, with term, at the prime of their career have been available at the trade deadline?
- BruHAWK

I posted a list a few days ago of the top goalies who have been traded in the past 20 years. The return is always minimal. It is a fact. You assuming that he should be worth more is you not understanding the trade market for goalies.

Quick question. How many number one goalies, with term, at the prime of their career have been available at the trade deadline?
- BruHAWK

Also, Schneider has been the number one goalie in Vancouver for one lockout shortened season. Hardly considered the "prime" of his career. Many hockey people still think there are question marks around him.

Great! I hope he shows up, plays lights out, wins the Gold medal, vezina, and conn smythe. I would assume that he'd want to do that as well.

If he's going to hold a grudge to the point that it affects his game, he will lose his starting job again, and he should probably just stay home. But he'll still be property of the Canucks.
- nucks_94

Do you have a point here or are you just venting?

Farhan Lalji ‏@FarhanLaljiTSN 29m

More Brisson, re Luongo's change of agents: "He has been through a lot the past 18-24 months & needed a different voice & sounding board"


Farhan Lalji ‏@FarhanLaljiTSN 36m

From #Luongo's co-agent Pat Brisson says, "Roberto has a contract & is preparing to be at training camp." Still planning to speak to MG tho

Great! I hope he shows up, plays lights out, wins the Gold medal, vezina, and conn smythe. I would assume that he'd want to do that as well.

If he's going to hold a grudge to the point that it affects his game, he will lose his starting job again, and he should probably just stay home. But he'll still be property of the Canucks.
- nucks_94

Farhan Lalji ‏@FarhanLaljiTSN 40m
From #Luongo's co-agent Pat Brisson says, "Roberto has a contract & is preparing to be at training camp." Still planning to speak to MG tho

Farhan Lalji ‏@FarhanLaljiTSN 36m
More Brisson, re Luongo's change of agents: "He has been through a lot the past 18-24 months & needed a different voice & sounding board"

Late

I posted a list a few days ago of the top goalies who have been traded in the past 20 years. The return is always minimal. It is a fact. You assuming that he should be worth more is you not understanding the trade market for goalies.
- KB3Point0

I can think of two: Patrick Roy and Roberto Luongo.

Roy shouldn't even be used as an example. The trade is considered one of the most lopsided trades ever. Not to mention the fact that Roy basically put Montreal in the position where he HAD to be traded.

Luongo was traded more because Florida couldn't afford to resign him. In the end, it was an unbalanced trade, but one example where Florida did not get full value.

But regardless, this scenario occurs so rarely that you can't use many other goalie trades as a comparison.

TSN confirming he'll be ready for training camp.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428422


AGENT BRISSON: LUONGO PREPARING TO BE AT TRAINING CAMP

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428422


AGENT BRISSON: LUONGO PREPARING TO BE AT TRAINING CAMP
- 1970vintage

Maybe Luongo hired a new agent to help with some of the damage control.

Do you have a point here or are you just venting?
- KB3Point0

Just saying that there is no point worrying about Lu's feelings. How he plays is on him.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428422


AGENT BRISSON: LUONGO PREPARING TO BE AT TRAINING CAMP
- 1970vintage

He didn't say which training camp....

Maybe Luongo hired a new agent to help with some of the damage control.
- fiveandagame

Maybe he got bad advice from Lupien, like "Lu, you should spout off to the media every chance you get, that will force Gillis to trade you".

He didn't say which training camp....
- DarthKane

Also, Schneider has been the number one goalie in Vancouver for one lockout shortened season. Hardly considered the "prime" of his career. Many hockey people still think there are question marks around him.
- KB3Point0

He's 27 years old.... If he's not in the prime of his career, then when will he be? And it was a unique situation in Van City. If Luongo isn't there and signed to such a large contract, Schneider is the starter there a couple of years ago.