And a great example of why it's best to develop players fully and trade them when their value is at it's highest rather than trading them as under developed prospects!
- KB3Point0

Yea shame on GM's like Dean lombardi for taking huge risks at the deadline. All it got was a stanley cup. Great job Gillis. You kept your piece and you developed him nicely and got yourself this great player. We as canuck fans are so happy that you didnt take any chances in 2011 when we had the chance to win it all. Keeping CS was the right move. Who needs a cup anyways. That stuff is overrated.

Why?

Luongo doesn't owe the Canucks anything? Does he? Whether fact or factpinion, Luongo was told he will be traded. The guy didn't want to be there. Gillis has said numerous times he has deals for Luongo, some of those, Luongo has said Gillis never talked to him about. Gillis never delivered.

Maybe, Luongo hired a new agent cause he really doens't want to be in Vancouver anymore?

Just because they traded Schneider, Luongo has to be ok with everything now?
- PatC80

No, he doesn't have to be okay with things. He can show up and get paid, or stay home and get nothing. Do you honestly think he'll do that? Gillis isn't going to be forced into trading him, that's been pretty clear for the past 2 years.

Very well, show me the research backing up your claims.

I'll get you started.

"Selecting Roberto Luongo as our Captain is a significant decision for our entire organization," Canucks general manager Mike Gillis said in a statement. "(head coach) Alain (Vignault) and I were looking for someone to lead this team, who inspires his teammates, is respected for his on-ice accomplishments and who embodies the core values we are striving for as a hockey club. We are confident that Roberto, along with Mattias, Willie, Ryan and all of their teammates, will provide this organization with strong leadership both on and off of the ice."

That sounds like an organizational decision to me, not Mike Gillis appointing Luongo captain.

Or, how about this:

"I want to put my whole focus on goaltending," Luongo said at a news conference. "I wouldn’t say it was a distraction. I think I could put something less on my plate. The less distractions as a goaltender (the better)."

This was the press conference where Luongo stepped down as the captain.

I could go on and on but you morons aren't worth it.
- 1970vintage

It wasn't my claims(I was agreeing with another poster) and you said it was opinion which it was not hence the emoticon. You defending Gillis says a lot.

Well that is a HUGE assumption on your part that Yzerman would have traded his 1st round pick (which at that point looked to be a very high one) for Schneider. I doubt it would have happened.

If they had acquired Schneider they'd likely have finished a few spots higher. One can easily assume they could have got an extra 5 points (they did lose 11 of their last 14). In that case the Canucks would have drafted 7th and likely drafted... Horvat.
- KB3Point0

Definitely an assumption, but for a team with a glaring weakness in net, and a proven young goalie like Schneider available, and with Tampa still in the Southeast hunt, I think Vancouver would get the first round pick, plus a prospect (Cory Conacher) and possibly a depth player. Just my opinion... I don't think it's outlandish. I just don't think think that Gillis was offering Schneider at the deadline.

Why is everyone so damn worried about Roberto's feelings? He signed the contract. Honor it. Who cares if he was told he would be traded? They couldn't get anything worthwhile for him, so they traded the other guy. It's a (frank)ing business.

Why is everyone so damn worried about Roberto's feelings? He signed the contract. Honor it. Who cares if he was told he would be traded? They couldn't get anything worthwhile for him, so they traded the other guy. It's a (frank)ing business.
- nucks_94

boom roasted

It wasn't my claims(I was agreeing with another poster) and you said it was opinion which it was not hence the emoticon. You defending Gillis says a lot.
- Cptmjl

I'm not actually defending Gillis, he's made a lot of mistakes. I'm suggesting that what that other douche wrote was not in fact "fact". Sure, there were some actual events that took place, but the commentary that went along with it was pure fiction, even you know that is the case.

Why is everyone so damn worried about Roberto's feelings? He signed the contract. Honor it. Who cares if he was told he would be traded? They couldn't get anything worthwhile for him, so they traded the other guy. It's a (frank)ing business.
- nucks_94

I don't get how a bunch of fans from other teams can feel so bad for a guy making almost $7million per year to play hockey...or not.

Why is everyone so damn worried about Roberto's feelings? He signed the contract. Honor it. Who cares if he was told he would be traded? They couldn't get anything worthwhile for him, so they traded the other guy. It's a (frank)ing business.
- nucks_94

Exactly. Its all speculation right now. From what we have learned about LU he could just be doing this to create this huge deal for fun. It wouldnt surprise me the least if we we heard in Sept that he did this for jokes. If he wants out then so be it. But I honestly think he is doing this because he knows its causing such a sh!t storm in van.

So there isn't drama around the Leafs?

No, Reimer is our guy
...No he's not
...Yes he is
...Oh wait...maybe he is

and that's just for starters.
- IanEsplen

To be fair, Nonis kept saying if we can improve we will. We are comfortable with what we have but if we can improve we will. Then with the deadline looming, he looked at Kipper. At that point alot of non-Leafs fans were worried about Reimer's feelings.
And if Nonis said he's our starter, not exactly saying a lot as Scrivens was the second option.

I don't get how a bunch of fans from other teams can feel so bad for a guy making almost $7million per year to play hockey...or not.
- 1970vintage

They're twitter whores.

Luongo really isn't helping the situation. man the (frank) up, issue a statement and show up to camp ready to play for the Canucks.
- Gary_B.

As a Canucks fan quite frankly IDGAF who's at fault or who's not. Every Gillis interview is such a proficient exercise in BS that politicians should be envious. Every Luongo tweet (he no longer seems to do interviews) is an enigma code that is a testament to how much he loves his own cleverness.

In the end of the day who gives a sh!t. Luongo and Gillis can both hold hands and ride out into sunset for all I care. Enough already.

I don't get how a bunch of fans from other teams can feel so bad for a guy making almost $7million per year to play hockey...or not.
- 1970vintage

People make Lu out to be a martyr. It's ridiculous.

As a Canucks fan quite frankly IDGAF who's at fault or who's not. Every Gillis interview is such a proficient exercise in BS that politicians should be envious. Every Luongo tweet (he no longer seems to do interviews) is an enigma code that is a testament to how much he loves his own cleverness.

In the end of the day who gives a sh!t. Luongo and Gillis can both hold hands and ride out into sunset for all I care. Enough already.
- AlexF

WELL SAID.

Why?

Luongo doesn't owe the Canucks anything? Does he? Whether fact or factpinion, Luongo was told he will be traded. The guy didn't want to be there. Gillis has said numerous times he has deals for Luongo, some of those, Luongo has said Gillis never talked to him about. Gillis never delivered.

Maybe, Luongo hired a new agent cause he really doens't want to be in Vancouver anymore?

Just because they traded Schneider, Luongo has to be ok with everything now?
- PatC80

Hey man, we all know the situation. Thanks for explaining it again......

Try this on for size though. If you wanted to be traded then he should have given Gillis the green light to trade him wherever. The team on his short list didn't want him and his contract.

The other thing is that it takes 2 sides to sign a contract. Luongo signed it and is just as much responsible if not more responsible, as he likely wanted the high dollar and term.

So yeah, man up. Honour your contract, and quit being a 6 million dollar guy, looking for pity.

If you wanted to be traded then the list of teams demanded should have been 29 teams long.

Why?

Luongo doesn't owe the Canucks anything? Does he? Whether fact or factpinion, Luongo was told he will be traded. The guy didn't want to be there. Gillis has said numerous times he has deals for Luongo, some of those, Luongo has said Gillis never talked to him about. Gillis never delivered.

Maybe, Luongo hired a new agent cause he really doens't want to be in Vancouver anymore?

Just because they traded Schneider, Luongo has to be ok with everything now?
- PatC80

Last I checked Luongo signed the deal and Gillis and company are fine with him in net. I think people have forgotten this is a business you are paid to play. Contract: is an agreement having a lawful object entered into voluntarily by two or more parties, each of whom intends to create one or more legal obligations between them.

Is it MG's fault Lu lost the starting job? Did MG make the choice to play CS in the playoffs and not LU? I am not saying this situation is all Lu's fault but neither is it all Gillis's fault there are other parties that play into this situation as well. If he shows up to play good if he doesn't show up to play Canucks management and the league will do what they must and are well within their rights to do it.

At the end of the day both parties should do the best for the team. Only they can decide that we can only speculate.

Why?

Luongo doesn't owe the Canucks anything? Does he? Whether fact or factpinion, Luongo was told he will be traded. The guy didn't want to be there. Gillis has said numerous times he has deals for Luongo, some of those, Luongo has said Gillis never talked to him about. Gillis never delivered.

Maybe, Luongo hired a new agent cause he really doens't want to be in Vancouver anymore?

Just because they traded Schneider, Luongo has to be ok with everything now?
- PatC80

well i don't want to get all legalese on you, but Luongo has a contract, and failing to show up for work would put him in breach of that contract, unless he has a "whiney female dog" clause that allows him to hold out because his feelings are hurt. whether or not he wants to be there is not the issue. the issue is what is right and what is wrong. the Canucks have honoured their end of the contract to this point and it's incumbent on Luongo do the same. so in that respect, yes, he does owe the Canucks. he owes them the fulfillment of his contract. he signed him. no one held a gun to his head and forced the $64 million on him.

Exactly. Its all speculation right now. From what we have learned about LU he could just be doing this to create this huge deal for fun. It wouldnt surprise me the least if we we heard in Sept that he did this for jokes. If he wants out then so be it. But I honestly think he is doing this because he knows its causing such a sh!t storm in van.
- Bluechip23

Really? He fired his long time agent and hired a new one just to "mess" with the fans and media in Vancouver?

Last I checked Luongo signed the deal and Gillis and company are fine with him in net. I think people have forgotten this is a business you are paid to play. Contract: is an agreement having a lawful object entered into voluntarily by two or more parties, each of whom intends to create one or more legal obligations between them.

Is it MG's fault Lu lost the starting job? Did MG make the choice to play CS in the playoffs and not LU? I am not saying this situation is all Lu's fault but neither is it all Gillis's fault there are other parties that play into this situation as well. If he shows up to play good if he doesn't show up to play Canucks management and the league will do what they must and are well within their rights to do it.

At the end of the day both parties should do the best for the team. Only they can decide that we can only speculate.
- thundachunk

That makes no sense.. Yes, Luongo signed that contract, who wouldn't? Would any person actually say "no, I am not worth that much"? Is Luongo the one who decided Schneider should start?

Really? He fired his long time agent and hired a new one just to "mess" with the fans and media in Vancouver?
- fiveandagame

I'm not actually defending Gillis, he's made a lot of mistakes. I'm suggesting that what that other douche wrote was not in fact "fact". Sure, there were some actual events that took place, but the commentary that went along with it was pure fiction, even you know that is the case.
- 1970vintage

I think you're creating speculation where there isn't any. I'm sure there are some things that Gillis wasn't a 100% at fault for. Reminds me of the DiPietro contract which Snow still gets shat for even though Wang was quoted taking the blame for it admitting that Snow had zero to do with it and even advised against him doing so. At this point though it has to be tough sticking up for Gillis and I don't get the defending from some of you guys? The guy crapped the bed numerous times here, it's obvious. It's like watching a car crash.

That makes no sense.. Yes, Luongo signed that contract, who wouldn't? Would any person actually say "no, I am not worth that much"? Is Luongo the one who decided Schneider should start?
- PatC80

Yeah, pretty much, 8 goals against in two games where the other guy is only giving up 2 per game had something to do with it.

the Canucks have honoured their end of the contract to this point and it's incumbent on Luongo do the same. so in that respect, yes, he does owe the Canucks. he owes them the fulfillment of his contract. he signed him. no one held a gun to his head and forced the $64 million on him.
- Gary_B.

Who would turn down $64 million? Who would say, "I am not worth that"? Put it in proper context. If your boss offers you a raise, are you gonna say "No, I didn't work hard enough, I don't deserve it"?

The canucks have been trying to trade him for well over a year now, how is that holding up there end of the contract? Or did you miss that part?

I think you're creating speculation where there isn't any. I'm sure there are some things that Gillis wasn't a 100% at fault for. Reminds me of the DiPietro contract which Snow still gets shat for even though Wang was quoted taking the blame for it admitting that Snow had zero to do with it and even advised against him doing so. At this point though it has to be tough sticking up for Gillis and I don't get the defending from some of you guys? The guy crapped the bed numerous times here, it's obvious. It's like watching a car crash.
- Cptmjl

Again, I'm not defending Gillis, he has had some serious lack of judgement and foresight, but the people who try and pass off opinion for fact need a reminder now and again. Just because "obviously Luongo would say he is stepping down as captain, but everyone knows that is not really the case..." Seriously, this is a fact?

Yeah, pretty much, 8 goals against in two games where the other guy is only giving up 2 per game had something to do with it.
- 1970vintage

So, Lu has two bad games, where he was hung out to dry in both, then decides, Corey is better suited for this?