I would take one quality, potential #1 center over 2 low end players and a late 2nd round draft pick in a heartbeat.
- KB3Point0

That's the problem. It's potentially a number one center. If this whole Luongo/Schneider fiasco is kept under wraps, I think that you could have got a high pick, along with a prospect and a roster player for Schneider at the deadline. But by having this whole thing out in the open, every GM knew that Gillis was over a barrel.

I would take one quality, potential #1 center over 2 low end players and a late 2nd round draft pick in a heartbeat.
- KB3Point0

not saying he won't, but with the Canucks history of drafting players there is a serious risk involved in giving up your number 1 goaltender for a draft pick. I do agree with you though, better aim high than take scraps for him. Still shocked Gillis wouldn't have approached Luongo and informed him that he may be staying prior to dealing Schneider.

I read your blog all the time and like most of what you write but Dan Murphy who is obviously very connected to the Canucks was the one who used the term "shot across the bow of the Vancouver Canucks". Are you really calling him one of the "every tom, Richard and harry?" I sure hope not.

Plus the twins have already been contacted about new contracts and I would be shocked if they go anywhere. They will re-sign at a reasonable salary.

That's the problem. It's potentially a number one center. If this whole Luongo/Schneider fiasco is kept under wraps, I think that you could have got a high pick, along with a prospect and a roster player for Schneider at the deadline. But by having this whole thing out in the open, every GM knew that Gillis was over a barrel.
- BruHAWK

You might think that, but if you look back at the return goalies bring in trades, that is very unlikely to be the case. The return for goalies tends to be very low. There are just too many of them and too few positions for them to fill.

not saying he won't, but with the Canucks history of drafting players there is a serious risk involved in giving up your number 1 goaltender for a draft pick. I do agree with you though, better aim high than take scraps for him. Still shocked Gillis wouldn't have approached Luongo and informed him that he may be staying prior to dealing Schneider.
- Isles_since_6

Way less risk acquiring a #9 pick in one of the deepest drafts in recent history. They had a few players they knew they wanted who they knew would be available. They got the one they wanted.

Gillis is also on the record as stating that you need to draft centers now as you can't trade for them and they rarely become available in free agency. He has adjusted his philosophy and this move is evidence of that.

- Scooby_Doo

So at what point does the owners of the canucks get sick of the drama that seems to follow mike gillis and every move he makes?

canucks are the soap opera of the nhl. Never a dull moment anyways

You might think that, but if you look back at the return goalies bring in trades, that is very unlikely to be the case. The return for goalies tends to be very low. There are just too many of them and too few positions for them to fill.
- KB3Point0

Well, if the reports during the draft were true, Edmonton was willing to give up the 7th overall, their second and a prospect... KNOWING that Gillis was bent over the barrel.

As well, with his age, his reasonable contract, and his already solid career numbers, I think teams that needed this type of goalie would have paid that price.

$17million per season for 8 seasons, I wouldn't worry about the Sedins.


- 1970vintage

Exactly

I would take one quality, potential #1 center over 2 low end players and a late 2nd round draft pick in a heartbeat.
- KB3Point0

Bo Horvat will not be a #1 C on a good team

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Well, if the reports during the draft were true, Edmonton was willing to give up the 7th overall, their second and a prospect... KNOWING that Gillis was bent over the barrel.

As well, with his age, his reasonable contract, and his already solid career numbers, I think teams that needed this type of goalie would have paid that price.
- BruHAWK

I think that's the price Gillis asked from Edmonton to deal Schneider within the division, which would explain how pissed off the Oilers were when they saw the actual return.

Bo Horvat will not be a #1 C on a good team
- PatC80

That's yet to be seen.

A Leaf's fan chirping about #1 centers.

If I'm a Canucks fan, I want Gillis as far away from this rebuild as possible. The guy has taken what could have been a perennial cup contender and turned them into a middle of the pack team. His handling of Roberto Luongo/Corey Scneider throughout his time in Vancouver is ridiculous. Let's recap:

- Made Luongo Captain
- Resigns Luongo to a 12 year, 64 mil contract extension
- Strips Luongo of Captaincy
- Declares that Schneider will be the starter and that Luongo will not be back with Canucks
- Unable to trade Luongo due to horrible contract that he negotiated
- Trades Corey Scneider for far less than he could have (If he kept his mouth shut) and declares that Luongo his his starter for upcoming season
- TSN contacts Luongo who indicates that he had not spoken to Gillis previous to trade, and has not decided what he will do for the upcoming season.

That my friends is the work of an incompetent GM.

When Gillis first started, he made some good moves, that positioned the Nucks well. But lately he looks like a guy in a sinking ship trying to patch this team up with whatever he can get a hold of. Cut this guy loose before you don't have a ship left.
- BruHAWK

This is called an opinion, it is not a FACT

I think that's the price Gillis asked from Edmonton to deal Schneider within the division, which would explain how pissed off the Oilers were when they saw the actual return.
- Isles_since_6

Very well could have been the case.

Well, if the reports during the draft were true, Edmonton was willing to give up the 7th overall, their second and a prospect... KNOWING that Gillis was bent over the barrel.

As well, with his age, his reasonable contract, and his already solid career numbers, I think teams that needed this type of goalie would have paid that price.
- BruHAWK

The reports that came out after were that Vancouver wanted them to include the 7th, but they wouldn't. It is also fair to ask for more from a divisional rival.

If he'd traded Schneider to Edmonton he would have been absolutely destroyed in the media. Of course, with the Vancouver media the way it is, he gets destroyed no matter what he does.

This is called an opinion, it is not a FACT
- annoyance_101

Yes, that is opinion. However, did you read the part where I asked him what was opinion, and he said "everything"... well clearly everything in that post is not opinion. A lot (if not all) of those things actually did happen.

So at what point does the owners of the canucks get sick of the drama that seems to follow mike gillis and every move he makes?

canucks are the soap opera of the nhl. Never a dull moment anyways
- Sheppy99

It's Vancouver. You really think there wouldn't be drama if they had a different GM?

People and the media in that town are nuts. They will find/make drama.

That's yet to be seen.

A Leaf's fan chirping about #1 centers.
- fiveandagame

Not chirping at all...

Horvat was ranked 15th out of north american skaters. TSN compared him to David Backes..

Do you think David Backes is a legitimate #1 C?

Bo Horvat will not be a #1 C on a good team
- PatC80

Another factpinion

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- fiveandagame

nice little move getting a hometown guy for cheap.

Bo Horvat will not be a #1 C on a good team
- PatC80

That's a pretty blanket statement with absolutely nothing to back it up. One of TSN's analysts (I can't remember which one) had Horvat listed as his, will be the surprise of the draft player in the pre-draft show.

It's Vancouver. You really think there wouldn't be drama if they had a different GM?

People and the media in that town are nuts. They will find/make drama.
- IanEsplen

Gillis brings it on himself. Toronto has just as much media scrutiny and you don't see this kind of drama in Toronto.

It feels like there's a new soap opera going on with the Canucks every couple months. At what point do you say, alright this is become really (frank)in distracting to the sole premise of our team......... winning hockey games. GTFO Gillis.

The reports that came out after were that Vancouver wanted them to include the 7th, but they wouldn't. It is also fair to ask for more from a divisional rival.

If he'd traded Schneider to Edmonton he would have been absolutely destroyed in the media. Of course, with the Vancouver media the way it is, he gets destroyed no matter what he does.
- KB3Point0

I agree. Trading him to Edmonton would have been a really bad move for everyone involved. However, if you think about who was in desperate need for a solid, young goalie at the deadline, Tampa Bay rears it's head, and I think that would have been a good deal for everyone involved.

It's Vancouver. You really think there wouldn't be drama if they had a different GM?

People and the media in that town are nuts. They will find/make drama.
- IanEsplen

to be fair to the media and fans in Vancouver, none of this would be blown up to the level it has been if Gillis would just learn to keep his yap shut and stop sticking his foot in it.

He's created the negative press by feeding it with his comments and then not following through on his statements. I don't hate the Canucks but Gillis is Brian Burke 2.0 with a number of bugs that have yet to be hotfixed.

Oh and I do hate Gillis, the guy is a complete cluster of a mouthpiece and one ding dong away from a heart attack.