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annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 25 @ 6:20 PM ET
That looked like me this morning.
- VANTEL

https://vine.co/v/hAz6ThBUBjJ
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 25 @ 6:21 PM ET
Attention to SOME Canuck fans : It's ok to admit MG has totally phucked up in regards to Luongo vs Schneider...he has, but ALL gm's phuck up ! Stan Bowman phucked up after the Cup win in 2010 by letting certain guys go in favour of others. It is a hit and miss business.
- HawkfaninBC


Ya that really hurt the hawks, I mean they must be really tired of hoisting the cup...
HawkfaninBC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Victoria B.C.
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 25 @ 6:22 PM ET
Ya that really hurt the hawks, I mean they must be really tired of hoisting the cup...
- annoyance_101

Well it hurt for a couple of years!
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jul 25 @ 6:27 PM ET
Attention to SOME Canuck fans : It's ok to admit MG has totally phucked up in regards to Luongo vs Schneider...he has, but ALL gm's phuck up ! Stan Bowman phucked up after the Cup win in 2010 by letting certain guys go in favour of others. It is a hit and miss business.
- HawkfaninBC



Yes, it has been messy, but at the end of the day the Canucks still have a excellent #1 Goalie that has a good cap hit as well as a very good prospect in Horvat. There are so many circumstances and events that got to this point and it has not been smooth by any means, but this is what the team has at this point.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jul 25 @ 6:30 PM ET
Attention to SOME Canuck fans : It's ok to admit MG has totally phucked up in regards to Luongo vs Schneider...he has, but ALL gm's phuck up ! Stan Bowman phucked up after the Cup win in 2010 by letting certain guys go in favour of others. It is a hit and miss business.
- HawkfaninBC


Nobody's claiming the situation wasn't handled poorly, but there are other people at fault than just MG—like AV, the Aquilinis, and LuoUngo himself.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 25 @ 6:32 PM ET
Nobody's claiming the situation wasn't handled poorly, but there are other people at fault than just MG—like AV, the Aquilinis, and LuoUngo himself.
- Fosco



Agreed .. lots of blame to share with everyone.
HawkfaninBC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Victoria B.C.
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 25 @ 6:33 PM ET
Nobody's claiming the situation wasn't handled poorly, but there are other people at fault than just MG—like AV, the Aquilinis, and LuoUngo himself.
- Fosco


Quite true, but MG is the boss of the hockey team , so it really does come down to him.
TimBits
Montreal Canadiens
Location: AB
Joined: 08.08.2012

Jul 25 @ 6:34 PM ET
Nobody's claiming the situation wasn't handled poorly, but there are other people at fault than just MG—like AV, the Aquilinis, and LuoUngo himself.
- Fosco


How the (frank) is he responsible for any of this? He was nothing but a class act throughout the process. Blaming him for any of this is ridiculous.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 25 @ 6:35 PM ET
Again see my previous post....As far as the Bruins and Flames...it was done. they had to take it back off the table when Iggy refused.
- Iggysbff


The deal was not done. The paperwork was not filed. Iginla was not a Bruin. The framework was agreed upon, but it was reported as done, not reported on as agreed upon in principle. Sloppy work by a new analyst trying to make a name for himself.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jul 25 @ 6:36 PM ET
Could also be a warning to Lack not to trust mamnagement(I doubt it is this), but if you analyze it it could be.
- VANTEL


Not really. You're grasping at straws trying to find the negative in a humourous tweet.
TimBits
Montreal Canadiens
Location: AB
Joined: 08.08.2012

Jul 25 @ 6:38 PM ET
The deal was not done. The paperwork was not filed. Iginla was not a Bruin. The framework was agreed upon, but it was reported as done, not reported on as agreed upon in principle. Sloppy work by a new analyst trying to make a name for himself.
- KB3Point0


If the analyst would wait each time for the paperwork to be done, we would never know until a few hours after. The trade-call takes quite a bit of time.

Your argument is silly.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 25 @ 6:38 PM ET
Not really. You're grasping at straws trying to find the negative in a humourous tweet.
- KB3Point0



I will write sarcasm for you next time.
HawkfaninBC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Victoria B.C.
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 25 @ 6:40 PM ET
Nobody's claiming the situation wasn't handled poorly, but there are other people at fault than just MG—like AV, the Aquilinis, and LuoUngo himself.
- Fosco


Has MG ever shown any humility in public and admitted he has made a real mess of the whole situation. Maybe he has , but I don't recall him ever standing in front of a mic and apologizing to the fans of the Canucks for the mess.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jul 25 @ 6:43 PM ET
Quite true, but MG is the boss of the hockey team , so it really does come down to him.
- HawkfaninBC


Yes, but Aquillini is the one that wanted to sign Luongo to the lifetime contract, AV is the one the played Schneider ahead of Luongo and Luongo had a NTC which limited Gillis's options in trading him. There is a lot more to the story then "Gillis is an idiot"

(for the record I am not a huge MG fan, but I don't think it's fair that he take 100% of the blame for everything that transpired.)
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jul 25 @ 6:45 PM ET
Has MG ever shown any humility in public and admitted he has made a real mess of the whole situation. Maybe he has , but I don't recall him ever standing in front of a mic and apologizing to the fans of the Canucks for the mess.
- HawkfaninBC


Has any GM ever done that?
HawkfaninBC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Victoria B.C.
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 25 @ 6:49 PM ET
Yes, but Aquillini is the one that wanted to sign Luongo to the lifetime contract, AV is the one the played Schneider ahead of Luongo and Luongo had a NTC which limited Gillis's options in trading him. There is a lot more to the story then "Gillis is an idiot"

(for the record I am not a huge MG fan, but I don't think it's fair that he take 100% of the blame for everything that transpired.)

- fiveandagame

For sure there are a lot of twists and turns to the whole story , but it would be refreshing to see Gillis take responsibility as the HEAD of the Canucks Hockey Business. When something goes off the rails in any business it usually falls on the head of the CEO.
HawkfaninBC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Victoria B.C.
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 25 @ 6:51 PM ET
Has any GM ever done that?
- fiveandagame


I don't know, I guess when your dealing with huge egos it is very difficult for them to admit any fault.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 25 @ 6:58 PM ET
The deal was not done. The paperwork was not filed. Iginla was not a Bruin. The framework was agreed upon, but it was reported as done, not reported on as agreed upon in principle. Sloppy work by a new analyst trying to make a name for himself.
- KB3Point0


By this reasoning 99.9% of the deals being reported are not done.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 25 @ 7:01 PM ET
By this reasoning 99.9% of the deals being reported are not done.
- Iggysbff


untrue rhino
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Jul 25 @ 7:06 PM ET
I can't believe I read this whole thread. I would imagine that watching an entire season of the Jersey Shore would have been less painful.
HawkfaninBC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Victoria B.C.
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 25 @ 7:07 PM ET
I can't believe I read this whole thread. I would imagine that watching an entire season of the Jersey Shore would have been less painful.
- Chest Rockwell


Vancouver Canucks = Jersey Shore

Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Jul 25 @ 7:32 PM ET
Vancouver Canucks = Jersey Shore


- HawkfaninBC


Actually, I was referring to all the clowns from the East Coast coming in here pissin n' moaning endlessly and creating drama out of nothing.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 25 @ 7:33 PM ET
untrue rhino
- annoyance_101



You'll never get over my old avatar will you.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 25 @ 7:39 PM ET
I can't believe I read this whole thread. I would imagine that watching an entire season of the Jersey Shore would have been less painful.
- Chest Rockwell





ditto


annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 25 @ 7:44 PM ET


You'll never get over my old avatar will you.

- Iggysbff

well you just made it so obvious sir
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