Everything makes sense now. This is your "I told you so" moment.

Does it feel as good as you hoped it would?
- nucks_94

No today will continue to be an awful day for humanity until the rest of you smarten up

All I'm saying is that if it comes from TSN/Sportsnet, its probably not baseless... ther e is a little truth to it.

You people are living in denial

For example:
"Gillis didn't say he would try to trade Luongo" - annoyance
"Vancouver didn't ask for Gardiner & Kadri" - everyone

This despite the fact that you were all saying, and truly believed in your dear hearts, that Luongo was worth Gardiner, Kadri AND More, and so willingly believed that this was going to happen

And now that the tables have turned you are all in denial.
- twiztedmike

This has nothing to do with the conversation. Troll somewhere else where your contributions are welcome.....

It wasn't FACT because the trade never actually took place through the NHL...it was reported falsely, it was speculation on Chiarellis part to think the trade was official when it wasn't. Then it snowballed from there...
- annoyance_101

So, even though it was Chiarelli saying "we thought we had a deal in place" it was just a rumor?

Anyone wanna bet that Peter Chiarelli is Eklund?


How is it not a fact?
Not sure I follow you?

The fact was that there was a deal in place with Boston and a deal in place with Pittsburgh.......

Just because the outcome was that Iginla ended up in Pittsburgh, it does NOT mean that there was never a trade in place for him to go to Boston

Do you people get it now?
- twiztedmike

Do you not see that Aaaron Ward reported it FALSELY, because it was just SPECULATION...yes there were talks between Calgary and Boston and Calgary and Pittsburgh...but even reputable sources are known to report something completely incorrect, Ward did not just claim that there were talks, i'm sure there were talks with LA too, the fact is, he falsely reported something...so even TSN and such make false reports...

If we're living in denial why are you wasting your time?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Because hundreds of years ago everyone in England thought the Bible was the truth and laughed and disregarded anyone who said anything otherwise. Just because they all didn't believe in science, it didn't make them right.

Despite this, brave pioneers of science like Galileo stuck to their guns and now people know better.

No today will continue to be an awful day for humanity until the rest of you smarten up
- twiztedmike

"Think like I do, stupidz."

Do you not see that Aaaron Ward reported it FALSELY, because it was just SPECULATION...yes there were talks between Calgary and Boston and Calgary and Pittsburgh...but even reputable sources are known to report something completely incorrect, Ward did not just claim that there were talks, i'm sure there were talks with LA too, the fact is, he falsely reported something...so even TSN and such make false reports...
- annoyance_101

http://www.timescolonist....-pens-snared-him-1.99929/

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=419320

So, even though it was Chiarelli saying "we thought we had a deal in place" it was just a rumor?

Anyone wanna bet that Peter Chiarelli is Eklund?


How is it not a fact?
Not sure I follow you?
- PatC80

Of course you don't because i'm talking about TSN and how they falsely reported what actually took place, they made it sound official.

The fact was that there was a deal in place with Boston and a deal in place with Pittsburgh.......

Just because the outcome was that Iginla ended up in Pittsburgh, it does NOT mean that there was never a trade in place for him to go to Boston

Do you people get it now?
- twiztedmike

This is not even the same situatiuon as Luongo. It was Iginla himself who confirmed that he wouldn't waive to goto Boston - there was no speculation or rumor, he came right out and said that he thought Pittsburgh gave him a better chance to win the Cup. It isn't even remotely close to the BS youre spewing about the rumors about Luongo.....

Because hundreds of years ago everyone in England thought the Bible was the truth and laughed and disregarded anyone who said anything otherwise. Just because they all didn't believe in science, it didn't make them right.

Despite this, brave pioneers of science like Galileo stuck to their guns and now people know better.
- twiztedmike

I wasn't aware that Galileo was English?!

You have taught me so much today.

http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/hockey/bruins-gm-chiarelli-believed-he-had-a-deal-to-obtain-iginla-from-flames-before-pens-snared-him-1.99929/
- twiztedmike

So what? I believe someones going to knock on my door in the next 30 seconds and give me a million dollars...does that make it true? of course not

but if tsn reports it...does that make it true?

Of course you don't because i'm talking about TSN and how they falsely reported what actually took place, they made it sound official.
- annoyance_101

Point is, it wasn't a rumor... If one of the people directly involved in the process speaks to it, it no longer is an internet rumor.

Maybe Aaron Ward reported it, because there was something to it. Why else would Chiarelli say he thought he had acquired Iginla?

All I'm saying is that if it comes from TSN/Sportsnet, its probably not baseless... ther e is a little truth to it.

You people are living in denial

For example:
"Gillis didn't say he would try to trade Luongo" - annoyance
"Vancouver didn't ask for Gardiner & Kadri" - everyone

This despite the fact that you were all saying, and truly believed in your dear hearts, that Luongo was worth Gardiner, Kadri AND More, and so willingly believed that this was going to happen

And now that the tables have turned you are all in denial.
- twiztedmike

If you're going to come in here and beak off and try and piss off all the Canucks fans the least you could do is be accurate. Spouting off about things that are untrue and attempting to justify them by trying to spin rumours as facts is pretty weak and just makes you look dumb. Continuing in your attempt at annoyance by throwing out even further generic and random quotes makes you look like a joke.

You should try to form a reasonable argument or conversation. People would be much more receptive and maybe you could even get a valid point across.

"DURR DURR DURR THESE FACTS I DONT WANNA HEAR ARENT FACTS PLZ GO TROLL ELSEWHERE"
- twiztedmike

I'm assuming you're a teenage girl with behavior like that, we're done have a good day sweetie....

I wasn't aware that Galileo was English?!

You have taught me so much today.
- nucks_94

Does it matter? I said brave pioneers LIKE Galileo

Its called a similarity and it doesn't mean that everything is the same, just most

If you're going to come in here and beak off and try and piss off all the Canucks fans the least you could do is be accurate. Spouting off about things that are untrue and attempting to justify them by trying to spin rumours as facts is pretty weak and just makes you look dumb. Continuing in your attempt at annoyance by throwing out even further generic and random quotes makes you look like a joke.

You should try to form a reasonable argument or conversation. People would be much more receptive and maybe you could even get a valid point across.
- KB3Point0

I brought facts and you all dismissed them as baseless speculation because it was convenient for you to do so, so you can continue with your current and misplaced beliefs.

Point is, it wasn't a rumor... If one of the people directly involved in the process speaks to it, it no longer is an internet rumor.

Maybe Aaron Ward reported it, because there was something to it. Why else would Chiarelli say he thought he had acquired Iginla?
- PatC80

Because he's an idiot? No GM should ever talk about trades before they are made OFFICIAL...doesnt change the fact that TSN reported something that was false...its been known to happen, whether it was 100% their fault or not, they have the last say as to what they report...

The fact was that there was a deal in place with Boston and a deal in place with Pittsburgh.......

Just because the outcome was that Iginla ended up in Pittsburgh, it does NOT mean that there was never a trade in place for him to go to Boston

Do you people get it now?
- twiztedmike

Do you get it that it was reported as a done deal? That it was not reported as a conversation, but that it was reported by Aaron Ward as having been completed and agreed to and that he was wrong?

I brought facts and you all dismissed them as baseless speculation because it was convenient for you to do so, so you can continue with your current and misplaced beliefs.
- twiztedmike

Maybe Gillis saying his relationship with Luongo is great is just a rumor..

I mean, Luongo hasn't said anything to support that, right.

Do you get it that it was reported as a done deal? That it was not reported as a conversation, but that it was reported by Aaron Ward as having been completed and agreed to and that he was wrong?
- KB3Point0

Finally someone else gets it, shocker, they aren't a leafs fan

Because hundreds of years ago everyone in England thought the Bible was the truth and laughed and disregarded anyone who said anything otherwise. Just because they all didn't believe in science, it didn't make them right.

Despite this, brave pioneers of science like Galileo stuck to their guns and now people know better.
- twiztedmike

Try to keep the conversation hockey-related.

Maybe Gillis saying his relationship with Luongo is great is just a rumor..

I mean, Luongo hasn't said anything to support that, right.
- PatC80

IMO, I would say thats a fair statement to make but we'll never know....

Do you get it that it was reported as a done deal? That it was not reported as a conversation, but that it was reported by Aaron Ward as having been completed and agreed to and that he was wrong?
- KB3Point0

I get that Jay Feaster agreed to the deal with Boston, but Iginla rejected the trade.. Wait, does that make Jay Feaster a rumor too?

So what? I believe someones going to knock on my door in the next 30 seconds and give me a million dollars...does that make it true? of course not

but if tsn reports it...does that make it true?
- annoyance_101

You still cannot draw the lines.

Here's how it works.

A TSN Source close to a member of an organization, lets say a Toronto Maple Leafs scout, gets tipped off by the scout about the ongoing discussions between the team's GM and another teams GM, say, Vancouver. A bunch of names are dropped.

The TSN Source then reports that these trade discussions are being held. Its called a rumour. Its not BASELESS Speculation. The trade discussions actually happened.

The trade falls through, it doesn't happen. This doesn't void the fact that trade discussions DID actually happen.

Maybe Gillis saying his relationship with Luongo is great is just a rumor..

I mean, Luongo hasn't said anything to support that, right.
- PatC80

That is EXACTLY right, he can say anything he wants...it hasn't been proven as fact, therefore it is a RUMOUR