Fair enough. 8 years/58mill is a hell of a contract for a non-superstar though.
- 1979AD

sure is

Fair enough. 8 years/58mill is a hell of a contract for a non-superstar though.
- 1979AD

He is on the high end of Elite, I still see too many defensive mistakes to say he is more than that right now.

He is on the high end of Elite, I still see too many defensive mistakes to say he is more than that right now.
- LeafMan

Who are the D superstars then?

Weber
Chara
Suter
Karlsson
Keith
Pietrangelo

ya maan ... off to see jblze & heart show.

let the led zeppelin fly! AGAIN

Who are the D superstars then?

Weber
Chara
Suter
Karlsson
Keith
Pietrangelo
- 1979AD

Pietrangelo is on the cusp
Keith is on the fence,

Put it this way, that list is pretty damn good, lol

Pietrangelo is on the cusp
Keith is on the fence,

Put it this way, that list is pretty damn good, lol
- LeafMan

So basically there are no more than 5 D superstars in the whole league. That's a very tight, but fair definition. Hopefully the Leafs can get one some day... I'm looking in your general direction, Reilly!

So basically there are no more than 5 D superstars in the whole league. That's a very tight, but fair definition. Hopefully the Leafs can get one some day... I'm looking in your general direction, Reilly!
- 1979AD

Bobby Orr was elite

So basically there are no more than 5 D superstars in the whole league. That's a very tight, but fair definition. Hopefully the Leafs can get one some day... I'm looking in your general direction, Reilly!
- 1979AD

ya I think so. For D anyway.

No every team has a franchise player. Some (frank)ers have 2


(frank) me Dertroit he 3 till Lidstrom retired

Bobby Orr was elite
- faceto27

everywhere but his knees, unfortunately

everywhere but his knees, unfortunately
- Big_Lightnin

hey now!

hey now!
- 1979AD

I said unfortunately

everywhere but his knees, unfortunately
- Big_Lightnin

I don't mind hockey broadcasters and reporters using the term elite...... they rarely use it unless it is warranted. What does get to me is how they throw around the "great" player.

Great is head and shoulders above the rest...... yet if you watch or listen to a game, you'll hear them describe at least half a dozen players on each team as being great. Some of them are pure slugs.

Are the Sedins superstars or elite?

Are the Sedins superstars or elite?
- TonkaPhaneuf

They're elite scorers.

Are the Sedins superstars or elite?
- TonkaPhaneuf

Super Elite Superstars

They're elite scorers.
- 1979AD

Elite head punch takers

Elite head punch takers
- senstroll

The best there ever was and ever will be.

Elite head punch takers
- senstroll

I don't get it, feel good that they have just under nine million to sign Fraser, Franson, and Kadri? Doesn't sound too peachy. 4 plus for Frans, probly 3-4 at least for Kadri, and with Fraser, looking around the LEague, I'm guessing 2 million. If they get real lucky they could sign them all.

I don't get it, feel good that they have just under nine million to sign Fraser, Franson, and Kadri? Doesn't sound too peachy. 4 plus for Frans, probly 3-4 at least for Kadri, and with Fraser, looking around the LEague, I'm guessing 2 million. If they get real lucky they could sign them all.
- aminnes

Kadri is not getting more than 3 million. Fraser will get no more than 1 to 1.2 million

Kadri is not getting more than 3 million. Fraser will get no more than 1 to 1.2 million
- faceto27

I hope your right, but looking at the market...

I hope your right, but looking at the market...
- aminnes

Thats just it......... there is no market for him to be compared to. He has had one good HALF season. And thats it. He will get a two year contract anywhere from 2.5 to 2.75 million per season.

Thats just it......... there is no market for him to be compared to. He has had one good HALF season. And thats it. He will get a two year contract anywhere from 2.5 to 2.75 million per season.
- faceto27

If there's no market how can you be so sure?

If there's no market how can you be so sure?
- aminnes

There no market in that you can't compare him really to anyone else. He and his agent can't compare themselves to players who have 3 or 4 years of NHL experience and the numbers to back it up. They have half a season of ammunition.

If you sign Kadri longer you can end up saving more in the longrun.