Big_Lightnin
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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This was end of this past season. He's not ready to be made the superstar Toronto fans wanna make him. - honesthockey
wasn't the end of the season, it was right after he returned to the line up, end of March
Mine was end of the season, during the playoffs. |
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1979AD
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Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan Joined: 09.08.2010
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Yeah we lost. Gardiner with the game winning assist. - honesthockey
Mostly because Gardiner wasn't ready for the big time, eh? |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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wasn't the end of the season, it was right after he returned to the line up.
Mine was end of the season, during the playoffs. - Big_Lightnin
I still don't know who is making him out as a superstar. Leafs coach said he is or can be an elite puck moving defenseman, I think he would know more than us on that position. |
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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and yet not that similar - Big_Lightnin
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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- burn
that was lost in the page turn. quite disappointing
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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I still don't know who is making him out as a superstar. Leafs coach said he is or can be an elite puck moving defenseman, I think he would know more than us on that position. - LeafMan
The coach knows game only works for bozak. |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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The coach knows game only works for bozak. - burn
I guess so. lol. |
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1979AD
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Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan Joined: 09.08.2010
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I still don't know who is making him out as a superstar. Leafs coach said he is or can be an elite puck moving defenseman, I think he would know more than us on that position. - LeafMan
That sounds like the coach making him out to be a superstar to me. I can't think of any elite puck moving defensemen who aren't considered superstars. |
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Big_Lightnin
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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That sounds like the coach making him out to be a superstar to me. I can't think of any elite puck moving defensemen who aren't considered superstars. - 1979AD
Kaberle ?
is Brian Campbell a superstar? I don't think so.
"Elite PMD" refers to 1 aspect of his game IMO. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Kuleman's now a defenseman
Why would we want to move Kuleman? He opens up so much ice for his linemates.
Kuleman - Kadri - Lupul
Could be the 2011 Kuleman/Grabo/MacArthur line - Garnie
Kulemin will not be on a line with Lupul |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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Kulemin will not be on a line with Lupul - Fakepartofme
ya we covered that. He's all better now. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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oh hey.
Franson OR Gardiner + Colborne for Coutourier.
thoughts? - Big_Lightnin
Neither. |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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That sounds like the coach making him out to be a superstar to me. I can't think of any elite puck moving defensemen who aren't considered superstars. - 1979AD
A Superstar defenceman is an all round player, I'm one that classifies players as, Superstars, Franchise then Elite.
Carlyle called one level of his play as elite, I don't make the connection to superstar. |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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ya we covered that. He's all better now. - Big_Lightnin
nuts, I was late to the game......AGAIN!!! |
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1979AD
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Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan Joined: 09.08.2010
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Kaberle ?
is Brian Campbell a superstar? I don't think so.
"Elite PMD" refers to 1 aspect of his game IMO. - Big_Lightnin
Kaberle's not an elite PMD. Bryan Campbell, I'll give you. Kris Letang is an elite PMD with serious defensive deficiencies, yet widely considered a superstar. |
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1979AD
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Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan Joined: 09.08.2010
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A Superstar defenceman is an all round player, I'm one that classifies players as, Superstars, Franchise then Elite.
Carlyle called one level of his play as elite, I don't make the connection to superstar. - LeafMan
How do you classify Kris Letang? |
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Big_Lightnin
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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A Superstar defenceman is an all round player, I'm one that classifies players as, Superstars, Franchise then Elite.
Carlyle called one level of his play as elite, I don't make the connection to superstar. - LeafMan
I think these 2 are pretty much the same.
agreed on the rest. |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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Kaberle's not an elite PMD. Bryan Campbell, I'll give you. Kris Letang is an elite PMD with serious defensive deficiencies, yet widely considered a superstar. - 1979AD
he WAS. |
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walshyleafsfan
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Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita Joined: 07.14.2011
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Neither. - Fakepartofme
Do you think Reilly will be good? |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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How do you classify Kris Letang? - 1979AD
He is an elite PMD but has defensive lapses, not a superstar or franchise player, imo. |
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Big_Lightnin
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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Neither. - Fakepartofme
cause you don't want Coutourier or cause you want to keep both?
Franson's going to be tight to sign, and make cap VERY tight. Trading him relieves that, and gets a very good young center in the process who's got a Low cap hit for 3 more years.
Leafs have depth on D to replace Franson or Gardiner. Don't have anybody anywhere near Couts in the system. |
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1979AD
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Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan Joined: 09.08.2010
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He is an elite PMD but has defensive lapses, not a superstar or franchise player, imo. - LeafMan
Fair enough. 8 years/58mill is a hell of a contract for a non-superstar though. |
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LeafMan
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Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven Joined: 05.20.2007
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cause you don't want Coutourier or cause you want to keep both?
Franson's going to be tight to sign, and make cap VERY tight. Trading him relieves that, and gets a very good young center in the process who's got a Low cap hit for 3 more years.
Leafs have depth on D to replace Franson or Gardiner. Don't have anybody anywhere near Couts in the system. - Big_Lightnin
Centres in the system
Gauthier
Verhaeghe
McKegg
Carrick
Crescenzi
Rupert
Toninato
Cameranesi |
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1979AD
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Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan Joined: 09.08.2010
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Centres in the system
Gauthier
Verhaeghe
McKegg
Carrick
Crescenzi
Rupert
Toninato
Cameranesi - LeafMan
That's ugly. |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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Centres in the system with anywhere near Coutourier's potential
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- LeafMan
Like I said...
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