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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 23 @ 2:08 PM ET
It'll never fit through the ladies room door now...

- mayorofangrytown

aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 23 @ 2:09 PM ET
Last year their defense was worse than Bryz. Imho.
Last year their overall team defense was worse than Bryz. Imho.
Last year their 5-on-5 play was worse than Bryz. Imho.
Last year their second unit PP was worse than Bryz. Imho.

- Scoob

honest or humble?
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 23 @ 2:09 PM ET
Anyone want to buy my car? 0-60 5.6 seconds. 1/4 mile in 13.5 seconds. Turbo only has 50k miles, with brand new timing belt, tires, and master cylander...
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 23 @ 2:10 PM ET
I wanted Vokoun.
- mayorofangrytown

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 23 @ 2:10 PM ET
Last year their defense was worse than Bryz. Imho.
Last year their overall team defense was worse than Bryz. Imho.
Last year their 5-on-5 play was worse than Bryz. Imho.
Last year their second unit PP was worse than Bryz. Imho.

- Scoob

Bryzgalof's play was pair perfectly with all of those things in my humble opinion.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 23 @ 2:10 PM ET
we are getting trolled here anyways
- Marc D

Yeah, I'm not trying to drag it out. Even if our new friend is being totally serious, he obviously has no intention of yielding that ax he's here to grind.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
I wanted Vokoun.
- mayorofangrytown



Me too.




In hindsight, I'm not so sure that would've been any better a route to travel.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
The debate over what Bill said or didn't say -- I'm not entirely certain what purpose it serves.

Are people not allowed to be right or wrong in their opinions, anymore? Can positions not evolve? Can people never admit being wrong, never concede a point?

Ilya Bryzgalov didn't work out, and the Flyers are paying for it. As fans of the team -- or maybe I should speak for myself here -- I'm glad the compliance buyout was available so the team could move on.

I wanted it to work. I hoped it would work. I wish it had worked.

The three sentences I just typed likely covers 99.9 percent of people who root for the Flyers.

Because none of us can accurately predict the future, does it really matter if we go back to say, "I told you so?" Because at some point, all of us have been right or wrong, if we've offered opinions about the team.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 23 @ 2:12 PM ET
Me too.




In hindsight, I'm not so sure that would've been any better a route to travel.

- Moose_15



So perfect
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:12 PM ET
I wanted Vokoun.
- mayorofangrytown

Can Vokoun be a starter? I feel like he's the best 1b goalie in the league, but if he was relied on to be the only guy he might not do as hot.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 23 @ 2:12 PM ET
Me too.




In hindsight, I'm not so sure that would've been any better a route to travel.

- Moose_15

At the very least, it might've been a shorter affair. Or one that didn't require a CBO. But who knows, that's in the realm of speculation.

Vokoun did play pretty well for the Pens this postseason. But then, maybe that's just in comparison to MAF
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Jul 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
Bout as smooth as sandpaper wrapped in barb wire trying to pick up an out-of-it's-league chick with an old, overused pickup line.
- JAKEw1234


So would that be the first time two coaches on the same team fought each other?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
The debate over what Bill said or didn't say -- I'm not entirely certain what purpose it serves.

Are people not allowed to be right or wrong in their opinions, anymore? Can positions not evolve? Can people never admit being wrong, never concede a point?

Ilya Bryzgalov didn't work out, and the Flyers are paying for it. As fans of the team -- or maybe I should speak for myself here -- I'm glad the compliance buyout was available so the team could move on.

I wanted it to work. I hoped it would work. I wish it had worked.

The three sentences I just typed likely covers 99.9 percent of people who root for the Flyers.

Because none of us can accurately predict the future, does it really matter if we go back to say, "I told you so?" Because at some point, all of us have been right or wrong, if we've offered opinions about the team.

- AllInForFlyers


Crims can. He allows you to ask 1 question which he will tell you the answer to.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
Anyone want to buy my car? 0-60 5.6 seconds. 1/4 mile in 13.5 seconds. Turbo only has 50k miles, with brand new timing belt, tires, and master cylander...
- youarewrong

I'll give you 50 bucks for it
lar6767
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.20.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
Lavi changing the D is just another excuse as it didn't work for Bryz and had they not acquired Mason the majority would have continued to blame the coach and Coburn and Briere for their defensive issues. The goalie's job is to stop the puck but somehow we all started making everyone else responsible for it to excuse Bryz. It was clear to me that Bryz was horrible and that he had to be bought out. Thankfully the Flyers thought so too.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
Crims can. He allows you to ask 1 question which he will tell you the answer to.
- PhillySportsGuy

Crims....

Am I going to pass P+T next year, provided I get though this year?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
Yeah, I'm not trying to drag it out. Even if our new friend is being totally serious, he obviously has no intention of yielding that ax he's here to grind.
- BulliesPhan87

So that explains the gruff temperament. Is he a hill dwarf or mountain dwarf?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
So would that be the first time two coaches on the same team fought each other?
- Trainfellow


Will there be any pens or Flyers on Team USA? Orpik maybe?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 23 @ 2:15 PM ET
Lavi changing the D is just another excuse as it didn't work for Bryz and had they not acquired Mason the majority would have continued to blame the coach and Coburn and Briere for their defensive issues. The goalie's job is to stop the puck but somehow we all started making everyone else responsible for it to excuse Bryz. It was clear to me that Bryz was horrible and that he had to be bought out. Thankfully the Flyers thought so too.
- lar6767

Thoughts on Homer, pls
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
Crims can. He allows you to ask 1 question which he will tell you the answer to.
- PhillySportsGuy


One question? Holy cow! That's a lot of pressure on the person who asks!
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
Crims....

Am I going to pass P+T next year, provided I get though this year?

- Giroux_Is_God

what is P+T?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
Lavi changing the D is just another excuse as it didn't work for Bryz and had they not acquired Mason the majority would have continued to blame the coach and Coburn and Briere for their defensive issues. The goalie's job is to stop the puck but somehow we all started making everyone else responsible for it to excuse Bryz. It was clear to me that Bryz was horrible and that he had to be bought out. Thankfully the Flyers thought so too.
- lar6767

He's a good goalie, he just didn't fit our system at all. Our system often relies on the goalie to be there for the big stop on 2 on 1s or situations like that, and Bryz isn't the kind of goalie that often shows up to make those big stops.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
Lavi changing the D is just another excuse as it didn't work for Bryz and had they not acquired Mason the majority would have continued to blame the coach and Coburn and Briere for their defensive issues. The goalie's job is to stop the puck but somehow we all started making everyone else responsible for it to excuse Bryz. It was clear to me that Bryz was horrible and that he had to be bought out. Thankfully the Flyers thought so too.
- lar6767


Bryzgalov was their best player in games 1-4 of the Devils series in 2012. He also holds the team record for consecutive shutout minutes.
But yeah, he's awful. All his fault. ECHL-level goalie at best.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 23 @ 2:17 PM ET
The debate over what Bill said or didn't say -- I'm not entirely certain what purpose it serves.

Are people not allowed to be right or wrong in their opinions, anymore? Can positions not evolve? Can people never admit being wrong, never concede a point?

Ilya Bryzgalov didn't work out, and the Flyers are paying for it. As fans of the team -- or maybe I should speak for myself here -- I'm glad the compliance buyout was available so the team could move on.

I wanted it to work. I hoped it would work. I wish it had worked.

The three sentences I just typed likely covers 99.9 percent of people who root for the Flyers.

Because none of us can accurately predict the future, does it really matter if we go back to say, "I told you so?" Because at some point, all of us have been right or wrong, if we've offered opinions about the team.

- AllInForFlyers

Having this mindset certainly woul make conversations more substantial and less dramatic/combative.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:17 PM ET
Will there be any pens or Flyers on Team USA? Orpik maybe?
- PhillySportsGuy

Hall is the only American Flyer, so I'd gander to say no. From the Pens, I think Orpik and Paul Martin were both invited to camp.
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