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mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jul 22 @ 11:45 PM ET
better than jones or joensuu
- TheNugeIsHuge

You gotta good point there
mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jul 22 @ 11:45 PM ET
better than jones or joensuu
- TheNugeIsHuge

You gotta good point there
trolleytracks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Apparently I troll every blog , ON
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 22 @ 11:46 PM ET
I'm enjoying these trade wars. It's nice to see you focused on something Clouts instead of pulling rambles out of your ass.
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:47 PM ET
hopefully he plays good and at the deadline or a few months in the year the oilers can get a decent return for him.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 22 @ 11:57 PM ET
hopefully he plays good and at the deadline or a few months in the year the oilers can get a decent return for him.
- Killbot460


I'd be surprised if he was in oiler colours come october, but I'd welcome him back.
mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jul 23 @ 12:00 AM ET
hopefully he plays good and at the deadline or a few months in the year the oilers can get a decent return for him.
- Killbot460

Exactly. It's not so much that's he's a bad player or that his salary is hurting us, it's more the fact that he needs to move on either this summer or come trade deadline. Next season he needs to be moved for sure since we have to resign RNH and J. Schultz. And they'll both be pretty pricy.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 23 @ 12:03 AM ET
Kane for Barkov... my that's... BOLD

Now we just need some freakin' sharks with lasers on their freakin' heads.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 23 @ 12:05 AM ET
Exactly. It's not so much that's he's a bad player or that his salary is hurting us, it's more the fact that he needs to move on either this summer or come trade deadline. Next season he needs to be moved for sure since we have to resign RNH and J. Schultz. And they'll both be pretty pricy.
- mbxiphos1527


unless RNH has 90P I doubt he gets more than Hall n Ebs at 6. Schultz'll get less than 5 IMO. Not big upgrades from the 3.775 they're getting now.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 23 @ 12:06 AM ET
I'm enjoying these trade wars. It's nice to see you focused on something Clouts instead of pulling rambles out of your ass.
- trolleytracks


You must just be a douche to live with...
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jul 23 @ 12:07 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: Trade Wars III: Yost vs. Clouts. Blog 4
- Maxbone



Hemsky for DeHaan + 2nd rd pick

makes no sense for Isles, besides his injuries DeHaan is still regarded as a top prospect


No dice.....
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jul 23 @ 12:09 AM ET
Exactly. It's not so much that's he's a bad player or that his salary is hurting us, it's more the fact that he needs to move on either this summer or come trade deadline. Next season he needs to be moved for sure since we have to resign RNH and J. Schultz. And they'll both be pretty pricy.
- mbxiphos1527


I think he is a ufa at the end of the season, and I also think Doug Murray was traded for two 2nd rounder picks, I'm sure hemmer will have some value He just needs to be Injury free
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jul 23 @ 12:11 AM ET
I'd be surprised if he was in oiler colours come october, but I'd welcome him back.
- TheNugeIsHuge


The oil need some grit. He really isn't a fit in the bottom 6. On any team. I wouldn't mind him back either. I think he would be worth a bit more at the deadline and if the oilers have injuries he is more than capable of moving up the line up.
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jul 23 @ 12:12 AM ET
Hemsky for DeHaan + 2nd rd pick

makes no sense for Isles, besides his injuries DeHaan is still regarded as a top prospect


No dice.....

- Ur Not Me


Ya I don't see Hemmer being moved for anything like that at this stage of his career. Maybe a 3rd and Carkner
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Jul 23 @ 12:22 AM ET
unless RNH has 90P I doubt he gets more than Hall n Ebs at 6. Schultz'll get less than 5 IMO. Not big upgrades from the 3.775 they're getting now.
- TheNugeIsHuge


I look at it as such.

At most Yak, Nuge and JS get 2.25M more than what they are making now. That puts each of them at about 6M...on the high end.

So the max amount needed for all of them is <7M. And that is spread over two years.
mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jul 23 @ 12:24 AM ET
unless RNH has 90P I doubt he gets more than Hall n Ebs at 6. Schultz'll get less than 5 IMO. Not big upgrades from the 3.775 they're getting now.
- TheNugeIsHuge

I could see RNH at 5M and J. Schultz at 4.5
JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Edge...The only people who really know where it is have gone over
Joined: 09.06.2012

Jul 23 @ 12:30 AM ET
Where are you hearing Stafford's name being kicked around as a possible Captain? I think this city would burn more cars if that happened than if both the Sabres and Bills won championships in the same year...
bsabres716
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Kenmore, NY
Joined: 07.01.2012

Jul 23 @ 12:32 AM ET
Where are you hearing Stafford's name being kicked around as a possible Captain? I think this city would burn more cars if that happened than if both the Sabres and Bills won championships in the same year...
- JCSabs06


I think the universe would implode if the latter happens...
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jul 23 @ 12:33 AM ET
I'm enjoying these trade wars. It's nice to see you focused on something Clouts instead of pulling rambles out of your ass.
- trolleytracks

And you would know about pulling things out of one's ass
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 23 @ 12:34 AM ET
I could see RNH at 5M and J. Schultz at 4.5
- mbxiphos1527


then that's not "pricey" at all. That's 1.95M in cap more
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 23 @ 12:36 AM ET
The oil need some grit. He really isn't a fit in the bottom 6. On any team. I wouldn't mind him back either. I think he would be worth a bit more at the deadline and if the oilers have injuries he is more than capable of moving up the line up.
- Killbot460

he could be a fit in FLA, PHX, OTT, or NSH being possible destinations for Hemmer. Still a top 6 winger. EDM could retain cap
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Jul 23 @ 12:36 AM ET
Honestly I dont see why he would offer this trade. Myers is the stud of this trade, Stafford and Parenteau are almost washes, but PA had the chance to pad points with Tavares and Duchene, Stafford really hasnt had a slick centre to play with. So the Avs get the 2 best players and throw in one decent player and 2 throw ins.

Would love it but it just seems weird without throwing out a centre your way. Swap Tanguay with O'Reilly/Stastny then we might be getting closer

- DDM-Coga


PA is a great player and the winger to play with Duchene the Avs have been looking for for quite some time. He plays a puck possession game and has great passing. Don't sell him short.

It was a weird deal though
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Jul 23 @ 12:39 AM ET
Good thing this is all in fun because Cloutier, you would make a horrible GM! I would rank you right there with Mike Milbury!!
- MadManPaddy


Don't forget about Feaster
deadsector
Edmonton Oilers
Location: sherwood park, AB
Joined: 01.08.2013

Jul 23 @ 12:49 AM ET
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=55070 Many hemsky haters are going to hate me for doing this. Click the link and you'll see his career states. Now i'll grant you this his last three seasons have not been very good. Having said that he's put up way more point then people think and he had a 70 point season on a sub par team. Also his best years were under MacT. You will notice a slide in his numbers the year after MacT left. Leads me to believe that MacT new how to use hemsky and the coaches sense have not used him right. Either that or hemsky plays better for a hard ass coach. So having said that i'm interested to see how he does under eakins asuming of course he's still here. Now normaly i'm not a states guy i don't ram states down peoples throats. However the hate on hemsky is bull. Now i'll agree with people when they say there must be some reaons no one wants to trade for him. And i think the answer to that is just plan ans simple the oilers are looking at his states and dispite the last three year, he's put up very good numbers for the most part and the oilers are just asking to much for him. Maybe his best years are behind him and thats possible for sure and may be even likely however the reasonable hockey fan, who takes a look at states will tell you hemsky is a good player. SO in my opinion i'd keep him and see how things go. At worst he leave at the end of the year, at best he gos a rippin puts up points and helps the oilers make the playoffs or gets dealt for a good return at the deadline at this point he's more valuable to the team then giving him away would be. Just my opinion though.
PS for the 2013 season i'm counting the point he had over in the check as well so he has a total of 58 for the season some may not like that but that was his year.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 23 @ 12:56 AM ET
Honestly I dont see why he would offer this trade. Myers is the stud of this trade, Stafford and Parenteau are almost washes, but PA had the chance to pad points with Tavares and Duchene, Stafford really hasnt had a slick centre to play with. So the Avs get the 2 best players and throw in one decent player and 2 throw ins.

Would love it but it just seems weird without throwing out a centre your way. Swap Tanguay with O'Reilly/Stastny then we might be getting closer

- DDM-Coga


ya I wouldn't call Stafford n parenteau a wash. great player on a great contract vs 3rd liner with bad contract
trolleytracks
Ottawa Senators
Location: Apparently I troll every blog , ON
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 23 @ 12:57 AM ET
You must just be a douche to live with...
- BigDre


Because I'm enjoying Trade Wars? You make a lot of sense don't you?
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