So You'd rather see the Leafs sign him for say 2.75 million, 1 year and then pay him 36 million over 6. A total of 38.75 million over 7 years

Or

sign him long-term now at 5 years, 22.5 million

Maybe you won't save much money, but your cap number on him sure looks a lok better after next year.
- IanEsplen

Please explain why he'd do that.

also.. kadri is not the number one centre

sadly bozak is
- Dozzer

I hope its a deep draft next year.

3 years, 8.5M
- Colin Dambrauskas

I doubt he signs for 3 years at such a low rate.

2 years @ between 3 and 3.5.... Closer to the high end.

the thing about the Duchene deal is, yes they saved money for two years, but that very likely cost them in the long run.

If they say locked up Duchene for around 4.5 per for 5-6 years they would be laughing right now and I would imagine Duchene would have signed it.

Same with Montreal, they could have had Subban for around 4.5 for 5-6 years and i is very likely they will be paying him 7 per after next season.

Why shouldn't the Leafs go 4.5 mil per for 5 years if you believe he is a building block for this team?
- IanEsplen

Holy (frank) Ian, you actually made sense! I like this, hopefully, new you.

Please explain why he'd do that.
- Pecafan Fan

Because thats a lot of dinar

hmmm........

I think Lupul was snubbed from Team Canada. very disappointing.

hmmm........

I think Lupul was snubbed from Team Canada. very disappointing.
- twiztedmike

Alex Anthopoulos requested he not be included

Holy (frank) Ian, you actually made sense! I like this, hopefully, new you.
- systemtool

The whole "I would imagine Duchene would have signed it. " is just making the whole argument completely irrelevant.

These deals don't happen simply because the players and their agent know exactly how much money they can make on the market.

he hasn't proven anything? averaging almost 50 points per 82 games in 3 full seasons, an improving plus/minus every year and a Norris trophy? Jesus. please tell me what he would have to do to prove himself in your eyes...
- DoubleDown

Agreed. As much as I hate the Habs, SSub ban is a damn good and proven player. Thought I'm still baffled over the Norris win, he won it and that's all that matters.

hmmm........

I think Lupul was snubbed from Team Canada. very disappointing.
- twiztedmike

I think he is a better player than some of the guys on that list, but has yet to put a full healthy season together since leaving Anaheim ...but then again guys like Hall have not either...

The whole "I would imagine Duchene would have signed it. " is just making the whole argument completely irrelevant.

These deals don't happen simply because the players and their agent know exactly how much money they can make on the market.
- Pecafan Fan

These deals happen often.

- honesthockey

jesus its like i invoked a spell



hows things today HH?

I think he is a better player than some of the guys on that list, but has yet to put a full healthy season together since leaving Anaheim ...but then again guys like Hall have not either...
- vermie22

Lupuls health is going to be a huge factor in this teams success this year IMO.

These deals happen often.
- systemtool

With "normal players". Not with "star players".

Lupuls health is going to be a huge factor in this teams success this year IMO.
- systemtool

I think he is a better player than some of the guys on that list, but has yet to put a full healthy season together since leaving Anaheim ...but then again guys like Hall have not either...
- vermie22

I see he never participated in any World Championships since the WJC in 2003.

Maybe he always says no to Team Canada when he's invited and they decided to pass.

With "normal players". Not with "star players".
- Pecafan Fan

I disagree and don't care enough to argue the matter. I respect your opinion but that was a good post by Ian.

It's a shame Spezza didn't get an invite.

Well the key is to not get stupid about it. 6 and 7 years for Hall and Eberle is fine. but 6 million per is kind of a dumb number. That numbers should have been 4.5-5.
- IanEsplen

Ebs scored 34 goals in his second season, was injured for much of the last one. Hall finished >ppg and was the 2nd most productive LW in the league last year.

I see he never participated in any World Championships since the WJC in 2003.

Maybe he always says no to Team Canada when he's invited and they decided to pass.
- Pecafan Fan

That is a good point, however I do believe for the past 2-3 off seasons he was injured, and would not have been able to participate in the World Championships.

Last year he had a separated shoulder at the end of the season, the year or two before that was all his back problems...so who knows. Also, not sure if he was on teams playing the playoffs in the previous years that would have prevented him from joining.

These deals happen often.
- systemtool

Examples?

That is a good point, however I do believe for the past 2-3 off seasons he was injured, and would not have been able to participate in the World Championships.

Last year he had a separated shoulder at the end of the season, the year or two before that was all his back problems...so who knows. Also, not sure if he was on teams playing the playoffs in the previous years that would have prevented him from joining.
- vermie22

I'm just speculating... Team Canada seems to be a select "boys club".

Ebs scored 34 goals in his second season, was injured for much of the last one. Hall finished >ppg and was the 2nd most productive LW in the league last year.


- BigDre

Ebs shooting percentage was ridiculous that season as well. Hall is worth the cap hit if he stays healthy.

I think he is a better player than some of the guys on that list, but has yet to put a full healthy season together since leaving Anaheim ...but then again guys like Hall have not either...
- vermie22

guess the guys who made the picks see the same thing in Hall that everyone else does... he's elite.

Lupul is a plug and wouldn't make Canada's B team, or C team...

The thing leading me to believe Kadri will sign a reasonable deal was a quote I read from him "I believe I can be a 1C in the league I'm working towards that" I think that statement alone leans towards a bridge deal.