it would be reimer and liles (and we'd probably have to throw in a pick or high end prospect). Liles isn't an anchor like komi, he'd still be useful, but we're basically paying a premium to move his contract. So that's over $5 mil wed clear out and could take back a D with a high contract.

Again i'd move kule for a pick or prospect and throw colborne on the 3rd line if needed, I think kule is good but our 3rd line can survive without him and he's certainly not making the top 2 lines. That opens up more cap space, but this is only a trade if needed where as the reimer / liles one should happen for sure.

it would be reimer and liles (and we'd probably have to throw in a pick or high end prospect). Liles isn't an anchor like komi, he'd still be useful, but we're basically paying a premium to move his contract. So that's over $5 mil wed clear out and could take back a D with a high contract.

Again i'd move kule for a pick or prospect and throw colborne on the 3rd line if needed, I think kule is good but our 3rd line can survive without him and he's certainly not making the top 2 lines. That opens up more cap space, but this is only a trade if needed where as the reimer / liles one should happen for sure.
- clark_griswold

Hmmm....

it would be reimer and liles (and we'd probably have to throw in a pick or high end prospect). Liles isn't an anchor like komi, he'd still be useful, but we're basically paying a premium to move his contract. So that's over $5 mil wed clear out and could take back a D with a high contract.

Again i'd move kule for a pick or prospect and throw colborne on the 3rd line if needed, I think kule is good but our 3rd line can survive without him and he's certainly not making the top 2 lines. That opens up more cap space, but this is only a trade if needed where as the reimer / liles one should happen for sure.
- clark_griswold

so you want us to go with a goalie whos never played more than 4 games in a row, no back up goalie and give up a high prospect? we already need colborne on the 3rd line regardless of if we move kulemin or not

so you want us to go with a goalie whos never played more than 4 games in a row, no back up goalie and give up a high prospect? we already need colborne on the 3rd line regardless of if we move kulemin or not
- DarcyTucker16

we'd be getting back a solid D. No we don't need colborne on the 3rd line. Mcclemant, bolland, kule (colborne).

Would I rather go into next year with bernier, a capable backup and an improved dcore or go in with reimer, 3 mil on the bench in bernier and the same D that got exposed in the playoffs? Yes.

Before this year no one thought reimer was a lock, and the argument was he needs experience (so it was right to play him and not grab kiprusoff). Bernier needs the shot now.


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we'd be getting back a solid D. No we don't need colborne on the 3rd line. Mcclemant, bolland, kule (colborne).

Would I rather go into next year with bernier, a capable backup and an improved dcore or go in with reimer, 3 mil on the bench in bernier and the same D that got exposed in the playoffs? Yes.

Before this year no one thought reimer was a lock, and the argument was he needs experience (so it was right to play him and not grab toskala). Bernier needs the shot now.
- clark_griswold

Yeah, I'd like to keep McClemment on the 4th line, and play 1st P.K. minutes.

it would be reimer and liles (and we'd probably have to throw in a pick or high end prospect). Liles isn't an anchor like komi, he'd still be useful, but we're basically paying a premium to move his contract. So that's over $5 mil wed clear out and could take back a D with a high contract.

Again i'd move kule for a pick or prospect and throw colborne on the 3rd line if needed, I think kule is good but our 3rd line can survive without him and he's certainly not making the top 2 lines. That opens up more cap space, but this is only a trade if needed where as the reimer / liles one should happen for sure.
- clark_griswold

I wouldn't trade Kule easily, he's solid

I wouldn't trade Kule easily, he's solid
- Zezel

kule is very solid, but he'll be making north of 3 next year, to play 3rd line minutes. Very good 3rd line minutes, but he has some value on the open market to help other weaknesses.

kule is very solid, but he'll be making north of 3 next year, to play 3rd line minutes. Very good 3rd line minutes, but he has some value on the open market to help other weaknesses.
- clark_griswold

Just saying it would take a sweet deal for me to move Kule, I think he's worth it

Yeah, I'd like to keep McClemment on the 4th line, and play 1st P.K. minutes.
- BetterCallSaul

I think he would make a sick checking line with bolland. If one gets thrown out of the draw the other is there. Great shutdown line that has a bit of offense rather than limiting mcclemant on the 4th line. But that's just me and I see where your point lies. I just like the fact of the leafs having a legit shutdown line for the first time in a while. Imagine if we had bolland and mcclemant on krejci last year instead of grabo and komarov. Haven't had a nails shut down line since the zezel days

Just saying it would take a sweet deal for me to move Kule, I think he's worth it
- Zezel

exactly and he is too low down on the depth chart at that money when we can get something for him. He's not beating out Clarkson, jvr, lupul or kessel (including PP). Even on the PK he's replaceable now that we have bolland

exactly and he is too low down on the depth chart at that money when we can get something for him. He's not beating out Clarkson, jvr, lupul or kessel (including PP). Even on the PK he's replaceable now that we have bolland
- clark_griswold

exactly - move him for D help

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Gunnarsson is decent, it's really hard to gauge this one. He has to value to us but how much value to anyone else?

He's established himself as an NHL d-men. Pegged to be on the swedish olympic team. We've retained our asset on a reasonable contract anyway. He'll most likely get moved later on when our young guns develop a bit more. Remember, he was a 7th round pick, if he gets traded for anything in the future it's a win

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exactly and he is too low down on the depth chart at that money when we can get something for him. He's not beating out Clarkson, jvr, lupul or kessel (including PP). Even on the PK he's replaceable now that we have bolland
- clark_griswold

What if we trade kule for picks, those picks are busts, and Bolland leaves next year or gets hurt

You'll be saying why did we throw away the Kule-Aid Man, that's what

What if we trade kule for picks, those picks are busts, and Bolland leaves next year or gets hurt
- Zezel

One guy said Bolland was pissed that he was traded here. He's all but gone.

What if we trade kule for picks, those picks are busts, and Bolland leaves next year or gets hurt

You'll be saying why did we throw away the Kule-Aid Man, that's what
- Zezel

even if bolland leaves, all 4 wingers (kessel will be signed) have long term deals so kule doesn't have a spot higher than the 3rd line for the next 5 years.

Gunnarsson is decent, it's really hard to gauge this one. He has to value to us but how much value to anyone else?

He's established himself as an NHL d-men. Pegged to be on the swedish olympic team. We've retained our asset on a reasonable contract anyway. He'll most likely get moved later on when our young guns develop a bit more. Remember, he was a 7th round pick, if he gets traded for anything in the future it's a win
- t_leafs21

Him actually making the team was a win. All this is gravy

One guy said Bolland was pissed that he was traded here. He's all but gone.
- weirdoh

Well nobody wants to play in Toronto, especially a guy who grew up here as a Leafs fan, this is probably a total drag

One guy said Bolland was pissed that he was traded here. He's all but gone.
- weirdoh

heard that from bolland's grandma supposedly? We shall see. I'm sure being on a winning leafs team has appeal for anyone, let alone a guy from TO. He definitely makes us better.

even if bolland leaves, all 4 wingers (kessel will be signed) have long term deals so kule doesn't have a spot higher than the 3rd line for the next 5 years.
- clark_griswold

I'm okay with that

heard that from bolland's grandma supposedly? We shall see. I'm sure being on a winning leafs team has appeal for anyone, let alone a guy from TO. He definitely makes us better.
- clark_griswold

c*nt

I'm okay with that
- Zezel

not at $3+ mil.

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- weirdoh

Hi, Doctor Nick!

not at $3+ mil.
- clark_griswold

I'd pay that for Kule, it'll be a bargain