Leafs fans think Phaneuf is better than Bieksa?! LOL!!!
Canucks have the deepest or second deepest Defensive line up in the league. Bieksa is a big part of that. Canucks right now have at least 3 d men that are better than Phaneuf. And that's not counting Tanev or Corrado who will be better than Phaneuf by Christmas if they keep developing the way they are.
- hankthetank

Defencemen: Karl Alzner, Jay Bouwmeester, Dan Boyle, Drew Doughty, Mike Green, Dan Hamhuis, Travis Hamonic, Duncan Keith, Kris Letang, Marc Methot, Dion Phaneuf, Alex Pietrangelo, Brent Seabrook, Marc Staal, P.K. Subban, Marc-Edouard Vlasic, Shea Weber

Looks like he was invited to the Camp though. Did Bieksa get left off as a typo or just somekind of glaring oversight???
- MrBen

We're screwed.

No Hamhuis

hewww, missed him. everything is okay.

Who cares if other teams don't like it. This is a business not a freakin support group. If forcing you to match means that it has weakened your position financially then that means that GM has done his job. It also means he had better keep his own house in order. The Flyers are one of the richest and most powerful teams in the NHL, the fact that they try to use everything at their disposal to try and put the team in a better position is fantastic.
- Marshalle

Artificially raising the salaries of other young players, who your own RFAs will then want their salaries compared to, is not a GM doing their job. There's nothing wrong with teams attempting to sign RFAs, but to sign players to offer sheets that are going to get matched will just lead to repercussions. The Flyers who have numerous very good young players who will be RFAs in the next few years should understand this.

Defencemen: Karl Alzner, Jay Bouwmeester, Dan Boyle, Drew Doughty, Mike Green, Dan Hamhuis, Travis Hamonic, Duncan Keith, Kris Letang, Marc Methot, Dion Phaneuf, Alex Pietrangelo, Brent Seabrook, Marc Staal, P.K. Subban, Marc-Edouard Vlasic, Shea Weber

Looks like he was invited to the Camp though. Did Bieksa get left off as a typo or just somekind of glaring oversight???
- MrBen

Well someone has to show the boys around the strip clubs in Calgary.

Artificially raising the salaries of other young players, who your own RFAs will then want their salaries compared to, is not a GM doing their job. There's nothing wrong with teams attempting to sign RFAs, but to sign players to offer sheets that are going to get matched will just lead to repercussions. The Flyers who have numerous very good young players who will be RFAs in the next few years should understand this.
- KB3Point0

I do understand it, its allowed, if other teams use it on the Flyers so be it. If they don't get their assets signed in a timely matter they run the risk of losing them. I understand perfectly. I don't think it should be used all the time and certainly not in this case but to not even to consider it is foolish.

Anyone think it would be fun to toss an offer sheet at Kadri for fun?

Nothing dumb in case you get stuck with it, but, 2 yr, 11 million would solve the 3rd line centre role.

You do realize that Pietrangelo told his agent that he would not be considering any offer sheets, and that he wanted his camp to focus solely on getting a contract done with the Blues. Armstrong wanted to get his other RFA's done first to see how much room he had left to sign Pietrangelo, and act accordingly from there.

Leafs fans think Phaneuf is better than Bieksa?! LOL!!!
Canucks have the deepest or second deepest Defensive line up in the league. Bieksa is a big part of that. Canucks right now have at least 3 d men that are better than Phaneuf. And that's not counting Tanev or Corrado who will be better than Phaneuf by Christmas if they keep developing the way they are.
- hankthetank

I guess the guys putting together team Canada do too.

Defencemen: Karl Alzner, Jay Bouwmeester, Dan Boyle, Drew Doughty, Mike Green, Dan Hamhuis, Travis Hamonic, Duncan Keith, Kris Letang, Marc Methot, Dion Phaneuf, Alex Pietrangelo, Brent Seabrook, Marc Staal, P.K. Subban, Marc-Edouard Vlasic, Shea Weber

I'm sure you probably do too. Unless you're either Bieksa's mom or just trolling for the fun of it.

You do realize that Pietrangelo told his agent that he would not be considering any offer sheets, and that he wanted his camp to focus solely on getting a contract done with the Blues. Armstrong wanted to get his other RFA's done first to see how much room he had left to sign Pietrangelo, and act accordingly from there.
- bacheesh

for poops and giggles, lets say a team throws 7 years, 56 mil at him...hes not signing that?

I guess the guys putting together team Canada do too.

Defencemen: Karl Alzner, Jay Bouwmeester, Dan Boyle, Drew Doughty, Mike Green, Dan Hamhuis, Travis Hamonic, Duncan Keith, Kris Letang, Marc Methot, Dion Phaneuf, Alex Pietrangelo, Brent Seabrook, Marc Staal, P.K. Subban, Marc-Edouard Vlasic, Shea Weber

I'm sure you probably do too. Unless you're either Bieksa's mom or just trolling for the fun of it.
- MrBen

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Karma: 024 Yeahs/6 BoosYeahBoohabs_1991 24 mins ago

Looks like a solid list of players, will be a tough roster to choose. But Dion Phaneuf? Really? Even Leafs fans must think that is a joke.

Karma: 021 Yeahs/2 BoosYeahBootfalcone.86 24 mins ago

I like Phaneuf a lot, but this reminds me of when Bryan McCabe got caught playing on the

I do understand it, its allowed, if other teams use it on the Flyers so be it. If they don't get their assets signed in a timely matter they run the risk of losing them. I understand perfectly. I don't think it should be used all the time and certainly not in this case but to not even to consider it is foolish.
- Marshalle

Yes, but to use it for the sole purpose of raising the salary of another team's player is foolish. Despite the fact you stated: "If forcing you to match means that it has weakened your position financially then that means that GM has done his job." That is not the job of other GMs.

TSN page. these two comments got the most likes.

Karma: 024 Yeahs/6 BoosYeahBoohabs_1991 24 mins ago

Looks like a solid list of players, will be a tough roster to choose. But Dion Phaneuf? Really? Even Leafs fans must think that is a joke.

Karma: 021 Yeahs/2 BoosYeahBootfalcone.86 24 mins ago

I like Phaneuf a lot, but this reminds me of when Bryan McCabe got caught playing on the
- Scooby_Doo

Well thankfully there are guys that know hockey making the decisions and guys like you commenting on them....not the other way around.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428181

Oh man, this does not look good for Tanev.

Yes, but to use it for the sole purpose of raising the salary of another team's player is foolish. Despite the fact you stated: "If forcing you to match means that it has weakened your position financially then that means that GM has done his job." That is not the job of other GMs.
- KB3Point0

if pietrangelo is already on the cusp of being a norris candidate, any offer sheet to him isnt artificially raising his value. its paying him what he is worth, whether RFA or UFA. as has been mentioned, im sure STL will match, but theres no harm in trying.

Well thankfully there are guys that know hockey making the decisions and guys like you commenting on them....not the other way around.
- MrBen

Phaneuf being invited to this camp is a token Toronto pick to apease the media. Not a chance he makes the team, and more than likely he will make a fool of himself at camp and lose whatever confidence he has left.

Artificially raising the salaries of other young players, who your own RFAs will then want their salaries compared to, is not a GM doing their job. There's nothing wrong with teams attempting to sign RFAs, but to sign players to offer sheets that are going to get matched will just lead to repercussions. The Flyers who have numerous very good young players who will be RFAs in the next few years should understand this.
- KB3Point0

I want my team to be in the mix for the Cup, I don't care who they pay, what they pay, how they pay or how they get their assets. I only care that every year they put the best team possible on the ice and use every legal avenue available to do so. If down the road that causes repercussions that harm your team then whatever team/gm you are talking about hasn't planned properly.

Yes, but to use it for the sole purpose of raising the salary of another team's player is foolish. Despite the fact you stated: "If forcing you to match means that it has weakened your position financially then that means that GM has done his job." That is not the job of other GMs.
- KB3Point0

I don't care about any other team or GM. I care about how well my team does. Period.

No Jason Spezza on invite list, I wonder what our Sens fans think about that.

for poops and giggles, lets say a team throws 7 years, 56 mil at him...hes not signing that?
- flyershockey

Nope. He's specifically told his camp that he wants to sign a contract with the Blues, and has no interest in any offer sheets.

I like the Edler for Pacioretty trade Ian. I think the value is pretty close and the need is there for both teams. If MTL have a spot to fill for a winger I'm happy to give them Higgins for a draft pick.

Nope. He's specifically told his camp that he wants to sign a contract with the Blues, and has no interest in any offer sheets.
- bacheesh

That's fantastic. Offer him 6m for 6 years in that case.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428181

Oh man, this does not look good for Tanev.
- Scooby_Doo

Do you know exactly what he is seeking?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428181

Oh man, this does not look good for Tanev.
- Scooby_Doo

Not even close. PW is way better imo. He's physical, can play the PP and he stays healthy.

if pietrangelo is always on the cusp of being a norris candidate, any offer sheet to him isnt artificially raising his value. its paying him what he is worth, whether RFA or UFA. as has been mentioned, im sure STL will match, but theres no harm in trying.
- flyershockey

Wrong.

If you pay him what he's worth it gets quickly matched and it's a pointless exercise. In fact, if you're just paying him what he's worth then it's unlikely that he will even sign the offer sheet and he'll just get that from St. Louis, unless they're really playing hardball, in which case he'll tell them about the offer sheet and they'll just offer him about the same.

The only way you can offer sheet a player and actually get that player (this is based on every offer sheet that has been signed to date) is if you offer significantly more than what they are actually worth. So much that the team doesn't mind losing a potential superstar for 4 mid to late 1st round draft picks.

As I stated previously, the Weber offer sheet was a good one. It was far from a foregone conclusion that Nashville would match due to them owing him $28M within the first calendar year, regardless of lockout, and the 14 year length of the contract. An offer sheet to Pietrangelo however, unless it is for well over $8M for the next 7 years, is pointless and will paint a target on the offending team's RFAs in the future. That being said, I would absolutely love to see the Flyers offer sheet him. I would love it even more if they highly overpaid for him. $8.5M for the next 7 years would be a nice addition to Philly's salary cap.

The Leafs have no one to replace him
Who is going to take over his minutes? Gunnarson, Kostka...
- Jaciems

Kostka signed with the Hawks. will probably play most of the year in Rockford.