Sure, he might want that, but it's very unrealistic. It would be a huge risk for the Canucks. Tanev has to know that too. He sees the contracts that other players in his situation are signing. As the summer has progressed I'm sure his expectations have dropped with every additional RFA D-man that has signed.
- KB3Point0

Yes, the question was asked what I thought Tanev was asking for... so I speculated. Remember Derek Roy wanting 6m per on a long term deal...

Yes, the question was asked what I thought Tanev was asking for... so I speculated. Remember Derek Roy wanting 6m per on a long term deal...
- Scooby_Doo

Now that is funny..... how quickly he realized...... not

Yes, the question was asked what I thought Tanev was asking for... so I speculated. Remember Derek Roy wanting 6m per on a long term deal...
- Scooby_Doo

I can see Tanev trying to hit a longer term with this contract because unlike a lot of other guys in his situation, he has yet to show that he will be capable of much more than he has shown to this point. For instance, you can see right away that a guy like Corrado has a much higher potential than Tanev does.

Hard to think he's still trying for $2M or more after seeing all these other guys sign though. I'm sure he started out thinking he'd get $2M of more, but now he's probably been brought very quickly back down to earth.

Would love to know where the two sides are really at right now!

You might want to adjust these expectations then while you're at it.
- KB3Point0

Why would i want to lower my expectations, if you can't meet your fans high demands then perhaps that person isn't the right one for the job.

Why would i want to lower my expectations, if you can't meet your fans high demands then perhaps that person isn't the right one for the job.
- Marshalle

That was in reference to you stating that you "expect that every move the Flyers make has had both short term and long term implications fully thought out."

They continue to prove that they don't fully think the long term implications out. You as a fan should absolutely have high demands. Their cap management continues to be an issue. The Mark Streit signing is a perfect example.

That was in reference to you stating that you "expect that every move the Flyers make has had both short term and long term implications fully thought out."

They continue to prove that they don't fully think the long term implications out. You as a fan should absolutely have high demands. Their cap management continues to be an issue. The Mark Streit signing is a perfect example.
- KB3Point0

Says who? You? They thought it was worth it and while i don't agree with it i'll at least see if it works.

Phaneuf is top 10 in minutes played in the league every year, has never had a good defensive partner (top pairing guy), never played in front of an elite goalie, the forwards in front of him have been very meh until recently and youre saying that Bieksa is without a doubt better than him?

As much as I hate the Leafs, I would love to have Phaneuf on my team. Give the guy a good d-man to play with, elite goalie and a good group of forwards (Vancouvers roster) and he will be great again.
- Jaciems

You're right. This guy sucks.

Says who? You? They thought it was worth it and while i don't agree with it i'll at least see if it works.
- Marshalle

I like Streit, but it's too much money and, more importantly, too much term for an aging, one dimensional D-man.

I like Streit, but it's too much money and, more importantly, too much term for an aging, one dimensional D-man.
- KB3Point0

Yes i understand your opinion.

My favourite Phaneuf moment was before the 2010 Olympics when he was in all of the Nike Team Canada commercials. To bad he didn't make the team.

I do think Dion is a good dman and would do better in another market.

Yes i understand your opinion.
- Marshalle

I cannot understand how Philly didn't offer a better deal for Schneider than what we got from NJ. You have tonnes of young forwards. Too many in fact. I was absolutely shocked that the Flyers didn't go for him. He would have been a god in Philly.

I wouldn't say Bieksa is better than Phaneuf, but I sure as hell wouldn't want Phaneuf on my team, the guy has absolutely ZERO hockey IQ.......

I cannot understand how Philly didn't offer a better deal for Schneider than what we got from NJ. You have tonnes of young forwards. Too many in fact. I was absolutely shocked that the Flyers didn't go for him. He would have been a god in Philly.
- KB3Point0

See to me that looks like a pure panic mode trade by the Canucks. Their goaltending situation has been handled about as poorly as possible. In my opinion.

See to me that looks like a pure panic mode trade by the Canucks. Their goaltending situation has been handled about as poorly as possible. In my opinion.
- Marshalle

Seems to me that it was a completely blown opportunity by the Flyers. Goalies have very little trade value. They could have got Schneider for a steal, like NJ did. The Canucks completely had their hands tied. Luongo wouldn't waive his no trade clause last summer and once the new CBA got signed nobody would take him without the Canucks eating a chunk of his salary. We only had one option as the owners wouldn't buy out Luongo. I just can't believe the Flyers weren't interested.

That's true, but if the Blues were to sign him for over 6.5 per, they're paying for his potential, not past accomplishments. I don't doubt that he'll end up being a perennial Norris candidate but IMO he's not quite there yet.
- Canuckleafer

i dont think the blues have to/will sign him for that much. but i also dont think its a bad move by another team to present that offer sheet to him. you have to pay a premium due to the RFA status, part of the system. if the blues end up matching, which i think they would, its their own fault for not getting it done sooner at a lower number, similar to karlsson.

Seems to me that it was a completely blown opportunity by the Flyers. Goalies have very little trade value. They could have got Schneider for a steal, like NJ did. The Canucks completely had their hands tied. Luongo wouldn't waive his no trade clause last summer and once the new CBA got signed nobody would take him without the Canucks eating a chunk of his salary. We only had one option as the owners wouldn't buy out Luongo. I just can't believe the Flyers weren't interested.
- KB3Point0

Who says they weren't?

See to me that looks like a pure panic mode trade by the Canucks. Their goaltending situation has been handled about as poorly as possible. In my opinion.
- Marshalle

Yes, high first round picks are usually involved in panic trades

Who says they weren't?
- Marshalle

The word that was going around was that they weren't very interested in him. Apparently they kicked some tires, but that was about the extent of their interest. They have plenty of assets the Canucks would want. If they wanted him they could very easily have made the deal work.

Yes, high first round picks are usually involved in panic trades
- bloatedmosquito

And panic trades usually take 13 months!

Seems to me that it was a completely blown opportunity by the Flyers. Goalies have very little trade value. They could have got Schneider for a steal, like NJ did. The Canucks completely had their hands tied. Luongo wouldn't waive his no trade clause last summer and once the new CBA got signed nobody would take him without the Canucks eating a chunk of his salary. We only had one option as the owners wouldn't buy out Luongo. I just can't believe the Flyers weren't interested.
- KB3Point0

Having sub-par goaltending is kinda the Flyers' 'thing'. Kinda like how the Canucks 'thing' is they're soft and never win in the playoffs.

Trading for Schneider now didn't fit their vision. If he fails to establish himself as an elite #1 then in a couple of years they can pursue him as an expensive UFA (looking for Rask-type $).

The word that was going around was that they weren't very interested in him. Apparently they kicked some tires, but that was about the extent of their interest. They have plenty of assets the Canucks would want. If they wanted him they could very easily have made the deal work.
- KB3Point0

it seems like the canucks had a player in mind in the draft they liked, and from the flyers they would have asked for similar compensation, and only b schenn or couturier fit that description. and that wasnt happening. maybe the flyers would have done the 11, maybe not. once the canucks knew their guy was still there at 9, they pulled the trigger. thats just my guess.

And panic trades usually take 13 months!
- KB3Point0

They didn't try to trade him for 13 months, they tried to move their other goaltender in a very public way for 13 months.

The word that was going around was that they weren't very interested in him. Apparently they kicked some tires, but that was about the extent of their interest. They have plenty of assets the Canucks would want. If they wanted him they could very easily have made the deal work.
- KB3Point0

What the word going around hockeybuzz?

Seems to me that it was a completely blown opportunity by the Flyers. Goalies have very little trade value. They could have got Schneider for a steal, like NJ did. The Canucks completely had their hands tied. Luongo wouldn't waive his no trade clause last summer and once the new CBA got signed nobody would take him without the Canucks eating a chunk of his salary. We only had one option as the owners wouldn't buy out Luongo. I just can't believe the Flyers weren't interested.
- KB3Point0

No surprise from me really. The Flyers aren't exactly goalie experts. After all, they dealt the Vezina winner away. Who does that?

Having sub-par goaltending is kinda the Flyers' 'thing'. Kinda like how the Canucks 'thing' is they're soft and never win in the playoffs.

Trading for Schneider now didn't fit their vision. If he fails to establish himself as an elite #1 then in a couple of years they can pursue him as an expensive UFA (looking for Rask-type $).
- YeOldTimer

Didn't fit their vision as in they didn't want to spend more than $1.65M on a goalie?