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Oilers42
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 06.14.2013

Jul 22 @ 12:12 AM ET
You are really high on Gags dude. But he is a lot of the problem in Edmonton. Generally speaking, you run with either a big first line center and small 2nd line center or a small first line center and big 2nd line center...Nuge is the bonafide top dog. Never will change, and because of that, Gagner will never fit. And I never said take Stastny, I think Edm should get Berglund. 6ft 3 swede with some skill. Sounds great with Yakupov
- Suckitcrosby

Don't need to have a big centre and a small centre as long as they have a high compete level and are skilled they will be alright
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:13 AM ET
Agreed. Stastny's worst season playing 65+ games is better than Gagners best season playing any amount of games.
- Babalu88

I like how u framed that...

so durability and health isn't worth anything?

ive been listening to the haters trashing hemkys value for ages for this very reason.
even though he's been healthy for the for the better part of 2 seasons

guess it only works and isn't a big deal when its the OTHER player being compared TO the oiler........

this game is a what have u done for me lately type. and last year gags was better
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:14 AM ET
If we're going to trade within the division I'd rather look at procuring Ryan Kesler from Vancouver. The asking price would be high but it would be worth it.
- Dangles13


like a package we couldn't afford really
Oilnutz
Edmonton Oilers
Location: sylvan lake, AB
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jul 22 @ 12:15 AM ET
Ok. Need some NHL geeks for this. Can they trade Gagner now that he has files for arbitration? I thought that you couldn't trade a player one they filed but maybe that has changed in the new CBA?

Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jul 22 @ 12:15 AM ET
You are really high on Gags dude. But he is a lot of the problem in Edmonton. Generally speaking, you run with either a big first line center and small 2nd line center or a small first line center and big 2nd line center...Nuge is the bonafide top dog. Never will change, and because of that, Gagner will never fit. And I never said take Stastny, I think Edm should get Berglund. 6ft 3 swede with some skill. Sounds great with Yakupov
- Suckitcrosby


Only generally though, Detroit seems to do ok without big centers. Big centeres are actually a rare commodity in the NHL and there isn't enough to go around.
Suckitcrosby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.13.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:16 AM ET
Right...and have the defencemen like Chara and Weber have a field day. Good plan.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jul 22 @ 12:18 AM ET
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:19 AM ET
Right...and have the defencemen like Chara and Weber have a field day. Good plan.
- Suckitcrosby

chara and weber are pretty dominant against all centers id say........
Suckitcrosby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.13.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:21 AM ET
Only generally though, Detroit seems to do ok without big centers. Big centeres are actually a rare commodity in the NHL and there isn't enough to go around.
- Dangles13


Detroit is also the best run team in the league. And we are also comparing Datsyuk and Zetterberg to Nuge and Gagner. Nuge is a number 1, Gagner is not really in the same class. I'd be happier to see the oilers go into the season with Nuge and Grabo then Nuge and Gagner
Suckitcrosby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.13.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:23 AM ET
chara and weber are pretty dominant against all centers id say........
- hugefemale dog77


Very true but you don't want your guys gettin demolished. Joe Thornton and Malkin and even Eric Staal has done rather well against them because it takes quite signifcantly more force to get them of the puck
RFawkes
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jul 22 @ 12:24 AM ET
Ganger for Little + a 3rd.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 12:25 AM ET
Very true but you don't want your guys gettin demolished. Joe Thornton and Malkin and even Eric Staal has done rather well against them because it takes quite signifcantly more force to get them of the puck
- Suckitcrosby

well if any of those 3 are available, id be more than willing to deal sam gagner for em....
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jul 22 @ 12:25 AM ET
Detroit is also the best run team in the league. And we are also comparing Datsyuk and Zetterberg to Nuge and Gagner. Nuge is a number 1, Gagner is not really in the same class. I'd be happier to see the oilers go into the season with Nuge and Grabo then Nuge and Gagner
- Suckitcrosby


Grabo does "tower" above Gags, Grabo is 5'11 and 180lbs, whereas Gags is 5'11 and 200lbs.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jul 22 @ 12:28 AM ET
Ganger for Little + a 3rd.
- RFawkes

Oilers42
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 06.14.2013

Jul 22 @ 12:31 AM ET
Ganger for Little + a 3rd.
- RFawkes

No Gagner + 1st + Hemsky(3.5m) for Kane thorburn
Suckitcrosby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.13.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:32 AM ET
Grabo does "tower" above Gags, Grabo is 5'11 and 180lbs, whereas Gags is 5'11 and 200lbs.
- Dangles13


I am fully aware of that, I said it as Grabo would cost you frack all and is a heart and soul player and that you'd be using Gags as a trading chip to get something of use. Instead of signing that little poop stain Gagner to a deal, lamenting his contract and getting nothing useful for him
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jul 22 @ 12:32 AM ET
Ganger for Little + a 3rd.
- RFawkes


Gagner for Medium and a 5th.

Gagner for Large and a 7th.
Oilers42
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 06.14.2013

Jul 22 @ 12:33 AM ET
I am fully aware of that, I said it as Grabo would cost you frack all and is a heart and soul player and that you'd be using Gags as a trading chip to get something of use. Instead of signing that little poop stain Gagner to a deal, lamenting his contract and getting nothing useful for him
- Suckitcrosby

Go to sleep Troll
Oilers42
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 06.14.2013

Jul 22 @ 12:34 AM ET
Gagner for Medium and a 5th.

Gagner for Large and a 7th.

- laughs2907

abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:35 AM ET
I am fully aware of that, I said it as Grabo would cost you frack all and is a heart and soul player and that you'd be using Gags as a trading chip to get something of use. Instead of signing that little poop stain Gagner to a deal, lamenting his contract and getting nothing useful for him
- Suckitcrosby

Gagner has more heart than most. That is one thing that makes up for most of his "short"comings
DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB
Joined: 02.03.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:35 AM ET
Gagner for Medium and a 5th.

Gagner for Large and a 7th.

- laughs2907


I was about to post this and the only different was I was going to use Regular and Big
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:36 AM ET
Go to sleep Troll
- Oilers42

Meh, it is his opinion, and the Berglund idea isn't too bad
Suckitcrosby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.13.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:37 AM ET
Go to sleep Troll
- Oilers42


You're one to talk. You are the one saying Stastny is not as good as Gags-on-Richard
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jul 22 @ 12:37 AM ET
You're one to talk. You are the one saying Stastny is not as good as Gags-on-Richard
- Suckitcrosby

weak
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jul 22 @ 12:38 AM ET
I am fully aware of that, I said it as Grabo would cost you frack all and is a heart and soul player and that you'd be using Gags as a trading chip to get something of use. Instead of signing that little poop stain Gagner to a deal, lamenting his contract and getting nothing useful for him
- Suckitcrosby


Well being a Leafs fan you would know all about poop stains, Grabovski is clearly a good team guy. Fights with the Kostitsyn brothers at the Olympics while "proudly" representing his country. Throws his coach under the bus in a none too gentle fashion. This is the kind of guy I would want in a locker room full of young and impressionable players.
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