Come on, Nonis hasn't been that bad..
- systemtool

Liles - not bought out.
Komi - compliance wasted
Bozak
Clarkson - 7 (frank)ing years
Frasor - unsigned
Kadri - "
Franson - "

Yes, he has.

Liles - not bought out.
Komi - compliance wasted
Bozak
Clarkson - 7 (frank)ing years
Frasor - unsigned
Kadri - "
Franson - "

Yes, he has.
- Tee-Dot

The bernier deal was the only good move he's made, and it didnt exactly address an area of need.

Liles - not bought out.
Komi - compliance wasted
Bozak
Clarkson - 7 (frank)ing years
Frasor - unsigned
Kadri - "
Franson - "

Yes, he has.
- Tee-Dot

I wasn't a fan of the Grabo buyout, but I dont think it's a knock that some guys remain unsigned. He'll get it done. I did like the Bolland trade and Gauthier pick.

The bernier deal was the only good move he's made, and it didnt exactly address an area of need.
- joel878

Exactly... and people are wondering why the jury is still out on this guy.

He's too (frank)ing quiet and takes too long.

Exactly... and people are wondering why the jury is still out on this guy.

He's too (frank)ing quiet and takes too long.
- Tee-Dot

Things could be worse. Trust me. I've had first hand experience with him and the frequent moron who runs my franchise.

Things could be worse. Trust me. I've had first hand experience with him and the frequent moron who runs my franchise.
- vancity787

True enough. Could be even worse though... imagine being a NYI fan when Milbury was in charge?

Exactly... and people are wondering why the jury is still out on this guy.

He's too (frank)ing quiet and takes too long.
- Tee-Dot

geezus Christ shut up. The teams better. The RFA's are gonna get signed, and there is no (frank)ing rush to sign them. 2 are in Arbs right now. The other 2 didn't opt for Arbs, so they are willing to wait.

got 2 more (frank)ing months

geezus Christ shut up. The teams better. The RFA's are gonna get signed, and there is no (frank)ing rush to sign them. 2 are in Arbs right now. The other 2 didn't opt for Arbs, so they are willing to wait.

got 2 more (frank)ing months


- Big_Lightnin

Don't mind me... just anxious for the season to start.

Anywho... I'm off to bed. Night BL.

True enough. Could be even worse though... imagine being a NYI fan when Milbury was in charge?

- Tee-Dot

Dear god. Why must you be so brutally explicit. That name is not welcomed around here.

geezus Christ shut up. The teams better. The RFA's are gonna get signed, and there is no (frank)ing rush to sign them. 2 are in Arbs right now. The other 2 didn't opt for Arbs, so they are willing to wait.

got 2 more (frank)ing months


- Big_Lightnin

The team being better has yet to be proven.

What we do know.. Is that he wasted two compliance buyouts. Buying out a defenseman with a season left, and leaving us with one who almost makes enough money, and has an extra two years. He wasted the other one buying out a player a lot of people could make a case for being the teams best center.

He's signed two ridiculous contracts, that will without a doubt burden the team at some point. No leaf in history has been signed for 7 years, and he shelled out 5.25 mil for each of those years on a guy who's career production is .01 higher than cal clutterbuck. Even bernier gets an extra 600k than Ben bishop.

Burke had this team financially set, and it takes nonis two weeks to destroy that to the point he may be scrounging for space to get our own RFA's under contract. He hasn't done a good job at all.

We're talking about $$$ though.... it's utterly stupid imo to say PK is better than Dion and PK makes 2.8 (or whaterver it is) so Dion isn't worth that.
- burn

know what's fun? To look at Subban's first 3 years in the league, then look at Phaneuf's.

The team being better has yet to be proven.

What we do know.. Is that he wasted two compliance buyouts. Buying out a defenseman with a season left, and leaving us with one who almost makes enough money, and has an extra two years. He wasted the other one buying out a player a lot of people could make a case for being the teams best center.

He's signed two ridiculous contracts, that will without a doubt burden the team at some point. No leaf in history has been signed for 7 years, and he shelled out 5.25 mil for each of those years on a guy who's career production is .01 higher than cal clutterbuck. Even bernier gets an extra 600k than Ben bishop.

Burke had this team financially set, and it takes nonis two weeks to destroy that to the point he may be scrounging for space to get our own RFA's under contract. He hasn't done a good job at all.
- joel878

quick, hide! a hunk of sky just missed you!!!!!

come see me next June with the smile on your face and new Clarkson Jersey.

quick, hide! a hunk of sky just missed you!!!!!

come see me next June with the smile on your face and new Clarkson Jersey.
- Big_Lightnin

You will definitely be one of the first people I look up when everyone on this site is raging about what a bust Clarkson is

The team being better has yet to be proven.

What we do know.. Is that he wasted two compliance buyouts. Buying out a defenseman with a season left, and leaving us with one who almost makes enough money, and has an extra two years. He wasted the other one buying out a player a lot of people could make a case for being the teams best center.

He's signed two ridiculous contracts, that will without a doubt burden the team at some point. No leaf in history has been signed for 7 years, and he shelled out 5.25 mil for each of those years on a guy who's career production is .01 higher than cal clutterbuck. Even bernier gets an extra 600k than Ben bishop.

Burke had this team financially set, and it takes nonis two weeks to destroy that to the point he may be scrounging for space to get our own RFA's under contract. He hasn't done a good job at all.
- joel878

Bernier's numbers are better than Bishop's at all levels so far. don't really understand this comment. Bishop was barely even an AHL starter.

limited samples for both, though Bernier's played more. But from what we've seen, pretty clear Bernier is better, so far anyway.

I'll admit I was surprised at Bernier's contract too, but if Bishop's your comparable, then ya, makes sense.

You will definitely be one of the first people I look up when everyone on this site is raging about what a bust Clarkson is
- joel878

I won't be hard to fine. I'll be the guy who's location says "I told you so"

EDIT: Gordie Howe hatrick his first game. Book it (if anyone from Habs will fight him)

Bernier's numbers are better than Bishop's at all levels so far. don't really understand this comment. Bishop was barely even an AHL starter.

limited samples for both, though Bernier's played more. But from what we've seen, pretty clear Bernier is better, so far anyway.
- Big_Lightnin

Only one of the two has actually had a legitimate job as a starter in the NHL.

Bernier has a lower save percentage on better teams than Reimer, and is paid almost double.

You seem to be a fan of the team flinging away cap space on potential, and insanely small sample periods. Paying for hopes and dreams. I'm of the variety that a contract needs to be validated by some legitimate history. Differing opinions is all.

I won't be hard to fine. I'll be the guy who's location says "I told you so"

EDIT: Gordie Howe hatrick his first game. Book it (if anyone from Habs will fight him)
- Big_Lightnin

Can't wait. It will go down as one of the worst contracts in franchise history, book it.

Yup, that's what i'm thinkin too. Nonis would probably just let him walk instead of messing up an opportunity to make the playoffs.
- Sheppy99

I think you sign him no matter what.

If you still need to trade him a year or two after that (provided the right opportunity to improve the team pops up), then you can always move him.

But I've always been opposed to the "make it up as you go" strategy whereby you dump Phaneuf and pray you can fill that spot somehow.

He's still currently the best option there is.

Only one of the two has actually had a legitimate job as a starter in the NHL.
Bernier has a lower save percentage on better teams than Reimer, and is paid almost double.

You seem to be a fan of the team flinging away cap space on potential, and insanely small sample periods. Paying for hopes and dreams. I'm of the variety that a contract needs to be validated by some legitimate history. Differing opinions is all.
- joel878

None of the 2 actually...

which is why I thought it was an odd comment. If Bishop is the comparable to Bernier, the contract makes sense. Did say I thought it was high though at the time. Just questioning the comment. Bernier IS better than Bishop.

Never said anything about Reimer.

Clarkson's goal scoring is not potential. he's done it. He's had 1 season he whole career where he didn't put up solid goal totals, on a low scoring team. And that 1 season he missed the whole summer of training with a broken leg.

The way he plays the game is not hope and dreams. It's the way he plays the game, every game. You'll get it. I know you don't right now, but you will.

Can't wait. It will go down as one of the worst contracts in franchise history, book it.
- joel878

None of the 2 actually...

which is why I thought it was an odd comment. If Bishop is the comparable to Bernier, the contract makes sense. Did say I thought it was high though at the time. Just questioning the comment. Bernier IS better than Bishop.

Never said anything about Reimer.

Clarkson's goal scoring is not potential. he's done it. He's had 1 season he whole career where he didn't put up solid goal totals, on a low scoring team. And that 1 season he missed the whole summer of training with a broken leg.

The way he plays the game is not hope and dreams. It's the way he plays the game, every game. You'll get it. I know you don't right now, but you will.
- Big_Lightnin

He started a stretch in Ottawa, and started the rest of the season for Tampa. That's more than bernier can say.

Your outlook on Clarkson is ridiculously blindly optimistic. He's 2 years removed from a 12 goal season in 82 games. He spent the last 2/3 of last season on pace for a 15 goal season. It goes both ways. He has not done a single thing to earn a penny over 3.5 million, let alone for 7 freaking years. It's insanity.

Maybe thats why there are rumours of phaneuf being traded, because Nonis tried to extend him but found out the price is way to high, so might as well trade him for KEY pieces going forward

He started a stretch in Ottawa, and started the rest of the season for Tampa. That's more than bernier can say.

Your outlook on Clarkson is ridiculously blindly optimistic. He's 2 years removed from a 12 goal season in 82 games. He spent the last 2/3 of last season on pace for a 15 goal season. It goes both ways. He has not done a single thing to earn a penny over 3.5 million, let alone for 7 freaking years. It's insanity.
- joel878

Kessel spent the first HALF of last season on pace for 8 goals. What's your (frank)ing point?

he's 2 years removed from a season he played with no summer training cause he broke his (frank)ing leg. Check EVERY season other than that one. 17Goals his sophomore year were on 12 mins a night. 23 goal pace the year he broke his leg 1/2 way through. 25G pace this year. and of course the 30G year. 6 years (not counting rookie year) 5 of which he scored at a very good rate. 1 bad year, which could be blamed on the injury.

But here's the best part - his goal scoring is just a bonus. Won't be the biggest asset he brings to the Leafs.


Bishop only "started" in Ottawa cause the 2 guys ahead of him were injured.

I think you sign him no matter what.

If you still need to trade him a year or two after that (provided the right opportunity to improve the team pops up), then you can always move him.

But I've always been opposed to the "make it up as you go" strategy whereby you dump Phaneuf and pray you can fill that spot somehow.

He's still currently the best option there is.
- Leeman4Gilmour

given the D pool, if Dion won't sign for less than $7M, gotta let him walk. Can't trade him cause they will be looking for playoffs next year, and a trade at deadline would be too disruptive.

could make a move for 1 vet next summer and promote a couple of Rielly/Blacker/Percy/Granberg.

can't have Phaneuf at a massive hit long term. just not worth it. But if he'll sign 6 yrs for a $6M cap hit, do it.

Can't wait. It will go down as one of the worst contracts in franchise history, book it.
- joel878

Cant quite say this yet. But the length was dumb. He's a good player but only has one good season under his belt.

Personally I think he may live up to expectations because hes in an offensive minded lineup instead of playing under lou. Regardless, Still alot of money and term for a one year Showstopper.