hartnell-giroux-jagr
schenn-lecavalier-simmonds
read-couturier-voracek
talbot-hall-rinaldo

.... UNSTOPPABLE
- FlyerMike18

Jake on the 3 line? that makes sense.

Jake on the 3 line? that makes sense.
- opeth_pa

those are 3 first lines. stack them as you will

those are 3 first lines. stack them as you will
- FlyerMike18

Read-Couturier-Jake/Jagr is not a first line..its a good responsible checking line.
Personally I would swap Voracek and Jagr

Nah.

0-2 slider.

Following a first pitch letter high fastball that was whiffed at, then an inside pitch chopped foul.
- Giroux_Is_God

0-2 he's toast. .180 Ba, .200 OBP after 0-2.

So, do we have a nickname for our division since the real one (frank)ign blows?
- mrhattrick27

Yeah, name of that poopty, choking team the Phil's are currently putting a Jacob smashing on..

0-2 he's toast. .180 Ba, .200 OBP after 0-2.
- jstross

I don't know the numbers, but I'd say about 2/3rds of his Ks are on 0-2 counts. It seems like it's a K every single time when he falls behind 0-2.

Even more than that- I bet probably most if not ALL of his Ks come on 2 strike counts! What a (frank)in scrub....

hartnell-giroux-jagr
schenn-lecavalier-simmonds
read-couturier-voracek
talbot-hall-rinaldo

.... UNSTOPPABLE
- FlyerMike18

Where are you cutting oh say the 5.5 mil needed to get us under the cap and get Jagr?


For the record as much as I enjoyed Jagr while he was here bringing him back on the top line only hinders Jakes growth. And Jagr is basically useless anywhere else in the lineup...

Read-Couturier-Jake/Jagr is not a first line..its a good responsible checking line.
Personally I would swap Voracek and Jagr
- opeth_pa

disagreed

if lava spreads giroux-vinny-jake throughout the three lines they will never be stopped

Where are you cutting oh say the 5.5 mil needed to get us under the cap and get Jagr?
- hereticpride

jagr's gonna take a massive paycut. that's why i have him replacing jake on the top line. only way to convince him

hartnell-giroux-jagr
schenn-lecavalier-simmonds
read-couturier-voracek
talbot-hall-rinaldo

.... UNSTOPPABLE
- FlyerMike18

Gagne would slide into 3rd line roll much more swimmingly.

Keep the Gingervitus line intact as well as a solid 2-way 3rd line: Gagne, Couturier, Read.

Plus, the Flyers could move Gagne or Reed up and down the line up in case of injuries. Easier to replace a 3rd & 4th line slot with some of their Phantoms.

Jagr "needs" to play on 1st or 2nd line to be effective. Limits options.

how bout them phils with the good old fashioned curb-stomping

Yes to Jags means Bags for Gags.
- Moose_15

Did I miss something? Why would we take on Jagr now? We're full at RW. He's terribly slow. He has little to no defensive game. I have no doubt if he signs anywhere at all, he's done in a year. I didn't think Jagr looked impressive in the playoffs, I thought he looked like someone everyone in the league should say no to. He reminds me of Mark Messier in his final years, just refusing to let go.

0-2 he's toast. .180 Ba, .200 OBP after 0-2.
- jstross

double ooof

Did I miss something? Why would we take on Jagr now? We're full at RW. He's terribly slow. He has little to no defensive game. I have no doubt if he signs anywhere at all, he's done in a year. I didn't think Jagr looked impressive in the playoffs, I thought he looked like someone everyone in the league should say no to. He reminds me of Mark Messier in his final years, just refusing to let go.
- dingo8urbaby

A little earlier there was a report that the Flyers were interested in Jagr.

I like Jagr, but do not see a roll on this team for him.

At this point, I'd much rather have Gagne on the 3rd line.

11-0 Phils in top of the 3rd. D. Brown hit a monster HR.

Gagne would slide into 3rd line roll much more swimmingly.

Keep the Gingervitus line intact as well as a solid 2-way 3rd line: Gagne, Couturier, Read.

Plus, the Flyers could move Gagne or Reed up and down the line up in case of injuries. Easier to replace a 3rd & 4th line slot with some of their Phantoms.

Jagr "needs" to play on 1st or 2nd line to be effective. Limits options.
- Moose_15

if we're being serious, i agree

just thought it would be cool to think about w/ jagr in the mix. spreading the wealth (and consolidating when the game situation dictates) could be a pretty effective strategy, imo. if, ya know, this all wasn't just fantasyland stuff

11-0 Phils in top of the 3rd. D. Brown hit a monster HR.
- jstross

he has been a revelation. i fully eat the whole crow on him. i thought he was on the verge of being able to be written off.

A little earlier there was a report that the Flyers were interested in Jagr.

I like Jagr, but do not see a roll on this team for him.

At this point, I'd much rather have Gagne on the 3rd line.
- Moose_15

Now this I agree with. I like Jagr too but he's a one dimensional player. If he's not playing in the top six, he's useless. Even playing on a scoring line though, he holds back someone much younger whether they're 20 something or thirty something.

if we're being serious, i agree

just thought it would be cool to think about w/ jagr in the mix. spreading the wealth (and consolidating when the game situation dictates) could be a pretty effective strategy, imo. if, ya know, this all wasn't just fantasyland stuff
- FlyerMike18

I won't say Gagne is a better player then Jagr. I'll just say Gagne is a more balanced player then Jagr and a better fit to the Flyers right now.

Now this I agree with. I like Jagr too but he's a one dimensional player. If he's not playing in the top six, he's useless. Even playing on a scoring line though, he holds back someone much younger whether they're 20 something or thirty something.
- dingo8urbaby

yeah. i dont really think you guys have a pressing need for jags anymore. the addition of vinny, a healthy hartnell, and just internal growth should provide adequate scoring depth.

I won't say Gagne is a better player then Jagr. I'll just say Gagne is a more balanced player then Jagr and a better fit to the Flyers right now.
- dingo8urbaby

exactly. jags definitely still has more raw skill, but i think gags would bring more things to the table that you guys need, and wouldnt be out of place on a bottom six, defensive themed role. not to mention like 3 mil cheaper

I won't say Gagne is a better player then Jagr. I'll just say Gagne is a more balanced player then Jagr and a better fit to the Flyers right now.
- dingo8urbaby

i agree. probably significantly cheaper too

exactly. jags definitely still has more raw skill, but i think gags would bring more things to the table that you guys need, and wouldnt be out of place on a bottom six, defensive themed role. not to mention like 3 mil cheaper
- stayinthefnnet

Gagne's 40 goal seasons could very much be a thing of the past but he still fits anywhere on all four lines. I didn't think Gagne looked great with Giroux and Voracek nearing the end of the season but I did think he looked good. I thought Laviolette was well within his rights to take Hartnell off the top line.

Now this I agree with. I like Jagr too but he's a one dimensional player. If he's not playing in the top six, he's useless. Even playing on a scoring line though, he holds back someone much younger whether they're 20 something or thirty something.
- dingo8urbaby

F Jagr
F gagne

lets roll