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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
I think hes one year away.
- PhillaBully

I think he was asking about one more in the OHL, then a year in the AHL next year.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
I thought he played a few games after the OHL season ended? Or is that some special rule? I have a six month old so excuse me of not knowing all hte hockey rules inside and out
- PhillaBully


A CHL player is allowed to join an AHL (or NHL, I think) team once his CHL season has ended.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
But you want him to play a full AHL season after this year.
- jmatchett383

nevermind though he could play int the ahl next year. I was wrong.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:47 AM ET
I think he was asking about one more in the OHL, then a year in the AHL next year.
- BulliesPhan87

Then yeah it makes it that much tougher.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:47 AM ET
Do you think the Oilers bringing up Sam Gagner as an 18-year-old was a good idea?
- bradleyc4


I don't know, I didn't follow the Oilers 07/08 season. I don't know where he was placed and what his role was.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
Do you think the Oilers bringing up Sam Gagner as an 18-year-old was a good idea?
- bradleyc4


Apples to oranges. Laughton isn't a skill guy and he's 19. Gagne had to step in and play an offensive role right away. Laughton won't have even close to the responsibilities that Gagne had early on.
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
some combination of:

hartnell-giroux-voracek
schenn-lecavalier-simmonds
laughton-couturier-read

he'd be bumping Talbot to the 4th line.

- bradleyc4

This is eventually going to happen though, if not this season then next season.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:49 AM ET
Then yeah it makes it that much tougher.
- PhillaBully


Sorry, didn't mean to come off as a (huge) jerk. But that's the issue. Guys like Laughton (and Couturier his rookie year) should be allowed to play in the AHL. They're too good for juniors, but not necessarily full-time NHL players (Couturier worked out).
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:49 AM ET
Apples to oranges. Laughton isn't a skill guy and he's 19. Gagne had to step in a play an offensive role right away. Laughton won't have even close to the responsibilities that Gagne had early on.
- PhillySportsGuy


If Laughton isn't a "skill guy", then what's the rush?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 9:49 AM ET
This is eventually going to happen though, if not this season then next season.
- flyers4487


Possibly. You forgot Bobby Ryan though
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:50 AM ET
This is eventually going to happen though, if not this season then next season.
- flyers4487


That's true. But I'd rather Laughton have a full NHL season under his belt learning both sides of the puck at NHL speed before it happens.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:50 AM ET
This is eventually going to happen though, if not this season then next season.
- flyers4487


One of those forwards will probably not be here by this time next year, imo.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:50 AM ET
If Laughton isn't a "skill guy", then what's the rush?
- bradleyc4


NHL exposure. Give him more than 8 games as a fill-in center before giving him a 3rd line role.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 9:51 AM ET
If Laughton isn't a "skill guy", then what's the rush?
- bradleyc4


There's no rush. I just believe he's ready for the NHL. Playing him another year in Juniors won't help his development. Did playing Schenn and Couturier in Adirondack help their development this past season? No. In fact, they developed bad habits that carried over to the NHL
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:51 AM ET
the Flyers will make a big splash at the draft next year and a big trade to excite the crowd at the former FU center
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:52 AM ET
the Flyers will make a big splash at the draft next year and a big trade to excite the crowd at the former FU center
- vejim


1st rounder for Emginer?
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:53 AM ET
One of those forwards will probably not be here by this time next year, imo.
- bradleyc4

This is true. I dont see gagne sticking around more then a year if we resign him.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:53 AM ET
Sorry, didn't mean to come off as a (huge) jerk. But that's the issue. Guys like Laughton (and Couturier his rookie year) should be allowed to play in the AHL. They're too good for juniors, but not necessarily full-time NHL players (Couturier worked out).
- jmatchett383


They should lower the age restriction by 1 year. its pointless to send laughton to the ohl to beat up on younger kids.
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:54 AM ET
1st rounder for Emginer?
- jmatchett383

Ironically that trade actually eventually panned out...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:55 AM ET
They should lower the age restriction by 1 year. its pointless to send laughton to the ohl to beat up on younger kids.
- PhillaBully


Well, the issue is that tons of 19-year-olds from the CHL would be flocking to the AHL, taking away the best CHL kids from their teams in their best years. But there should be an exemption, where each AHL team can have 1 underage CHL player.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:55 AM ET
Ironically that trade actually eventually panned out...
- flyers4487


I'd prefer Downie and John Calrson over Matt Carle.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 9:55 AM ET
They should lower the age restriction by 1 year. its pointless to send laughton to the ohl to beat up on younger kids.
- PhillaBully


Yeah. It would be nice to see how these guys do against grown men before having them play in the NHL.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 9:56 AM ET
I'd prefer Downie and John Calrson over Matt Carle.
- jmatchett383


Who says they would have taken Carlson?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 19 @ 9:57 AM ET
A CHL player is allowed to join an AHL (or NHL, I think) team once his CHL season has ended.
- jmatchett383



Yeah, after their season, they are able to sign a professional try out.

Outside of that, Canadian CHL'ers must be sent back to the CHL for their 18-year-old and 19-year-old seasons if they don't make an NHL club. The only exceptions are for non-Canadians who were drafted before they joined the CHL... like Carlson, Loktionov, Voynov and Jeremy Morin... they were able to go to the AHL as teenagers whenever.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:57 AM ET
the Flyers will make a big splash at the draft next year and a big trade to excite the crowd at the former FU center
- vejim

That's what happened the past two years. The team hosting the draft made a big trade
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