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feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 19 @ 4:54 PM ET
Haha thanks for that. Site pools from Craiglists but it eliminates the junk.
- mrhattrick27

Yeah, it uses a couple other sites, too. It's pretty awesome.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 19 @ 4:54 PM ET
yeah i saw them. i think they offer like a ten percent student discount if you buy a trailpass based upon each semester. ive never really used septa except for the occasional busride before, but it seems like the best option here
- stayinthefnnet

Trailpass should also work on the subway and buses, I think. They are the best way to go.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 19 @ 4:55 PM ET
Haha thanks for that. Site pools from Craiglists but it eliminates the junk.
- mrhattrick27

It's nice to see the CL listings on a map, at least. Not perfect, but it is helpful.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 19 @ 4:57 PM ET
Flyers suck. Discuss.
- mrhattrick27

No way, the Rangers suck!
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 19 @ 4:57 PM ET
Seriously, it's putting me to sleep here. Somebody needs to argue about whose opinions the Flyers don't make decisions based on, or whether advanced stats are prophetic/garbage, or something.
- BulliesPhan87


rank these goaltenders based on their time with the flyers (predictive for emery and mason)*:

biron, bryz, nitty, esche, boosh, leighton, emery, mason

*ranking for talent... not like "player a played x more games so he accomplished more as a flyer" or anything like that. basically seeing where people think our current goalies fit in with these other guys as far as talent goes
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 19 @ 4:57 PM ET
No way, the Rangers suck!
- BulliesPhan87


yea i'd have to say i agree with this
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 19 @ 4:59 PM ET
There you have it, the most dominant athlete of all time—Wayne Gretzky.

The man owned hockey. When the day you're traded is considered one of the saddest days in the history of your city, you now you were pretty good.

And Gretzky was more than pretty good, he was unbelievable.

He was the greatest scorer in the history of hockey, and, by far, the best assist man in the history of the game.

He has 93 more goals than anybody in hockey history, he has the two highest goal scoring seasons in NHL history, he has over 700 more assists than anybody else in NHL history, he is the all-time NHL leader in assists per game and points per game, he had so many points in his career that had he not scored a single goal in his entire career he would still be the NHL all-time points leader.

Do you understand how great of an achievement that is? That means that he had more assists in his career than any other NHL player had assists plus goals.

He has 10 of the top 12 single seasons of all time in points scored, 11 of the top 12 seasons of all time in assists, and four of the top 10 seasons in goals scored.

He led the league in assists a remarkable 13 straight times, and points eight straight times.He is the only player in NHL history to top 200 points in a season, and he did it four times. His number has been retired by every team throughout hockey, not to mention he won nine Hart Trophies and four Stanley Cups.

There was never a player in the history of team sports like Gretzky. He could have scored 1,500 goals if he wanted, but he didn't want to, he wanted to get his whole team involved which shows with his ridiculous assist totals and his Stanley Cup total.

I'm Michael Jordan's biggest fan, but even I'll admit that Wayne Gretzky was much more dominant than him.

Gretzky was just a man among boys.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 5:01 PM ET
rank these goaltenders based on their time with the flyers (predictive for emery and mason):

biron, bryz, nitty, esche, boosh, leighton, emery, mason

- FlyerMike18

what a mess
eshake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.20.2009

Jul 19 @ 5:03 PM ET
Metropolitan Division...more like the COSMOPOLITAN division...ammirite!!?

also yeah, this is awful. are we sure NHL.com didn't switch that one up?
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 19 @ 5:04 PM ET
what a mess
- Crimsoninja


if called upon for my own ranking, i was going with: "they all suck"
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 19 @ 5:06 PM ET
if called upon for my own ranking, i was going with: "they all suck"
- FlyerMike18

I was trying to come up with a clever way to say that, but samesies.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 5:06 PM ET
Speaking of advanced stats:
http://www.grantland.com/...advanced-stats-in-the-nhl

- BulliesPhan87


Skimmed through it briefly. Stopped reading it when the author stated that RBI's in baseball is a pretty much useless stat. Laughable.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 5:10 PM ET
Skimmed through it briefly. Stopped reading it when the author stated that RBI's in baseball is a pretty much useless stat. Laughable.
- MJL

He's far from alone in that thinking though

why dismiss the entire article because of it?
note: i only read the intro because i am too lazy/uninterested in totally delving into advanced stats.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 19 @ 5:11 PM ET
I was trying to come up with a clever way to say that, but samesies.
- BulliesPhan87




even though i honestly think emery (first time around...while healthy) impressed me the most. maybe just because he didn't stick around long enough to sour. i am most decidedly not a "blame the goalie" guy, but by the end i was sickened by the sight of marty biron
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 19 @ 5:11 PM ET
Skimmed through it briefly. Stopped reading it when the author stated that RBI's in baseball is a pretty much useless stat. Laughable.
- MJL

yeah. i dont think i can ever be convinced on that one
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 19 @ 5:12 PM ET
Skimmed through it briefly. Stopped reading it when the author stated that RBI's in baseball is a pretty much useless stat. Laughable.
- MJL

Not sure if you're familiar, but DGB is a humor blog.

Anyways, personally I don't know much about baseball stats, I only watch it on occasion. In hockey, I'm ok with advanced stats. I don't swear by them, but I'll take Fenwick and Corsi over realtime stats or +/- anyday.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 19 @ 5:13 PM ET


even though i honestly think emery (first time around...while healthy) impressed me the most. maybe just because he didn't stick around long enough to sour. i am most decidedly not a "blame the goalie" guy, but by the end i was sickened by the sight of marty biron

- FlyerMike18


How could you get sick of those eyes....... amirite Flyersgrace.....
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 19 @ 5:14 PM ET
He's far from alone in that thinking though

why dismiss the entire article because of it?
note: i only read the intro because i am too lazy/uninterested in totally delving into advanced stats.

- Crimsoninja

I think this guide was made for you. I'm kind of in the same boat, I think I understand advanced stats, but I'm not busting out my TI-83 and making a commitment here.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 5:14 PM ET
yeah. i dont think i can ever be convinced on that one
- stayinthefnnet

pretty sure the theory is that any guy who has good power numbers, slugging %, etc..will rack up RBIs if you hit him in the middle of a lineup that routinely has guys on base in front of him

in other words its the other stats that really tell the story.. far more than RBI numbers
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 5:15 PM ET
I think this guide was made for you. I'm kind of in the same boat, I think I understand advanced stats, but I'm not busting out my TI-83 and making a commitment here.
- BulliesPhan87

i'll save the link and give it a go later on
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 19 @ 5:19 PM ET


That's a brutal schedule.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 19 @ 5:19 PM ET
i'll save the link and give it a go later on
- Crimsoninja


Its just odd cause I thought advanced stats would show why the great players are great and then go down in player quality you'd see so and so is actually a highly effective player. Instead one side has over a 3 year period that Tyler Kennedy has the 2nd best Corsi #s and that's where I stopped caring.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 19 @ 5:20 PM ET
pretty sure the theory is that any guy who has good power numbers, slugging %, etc..will rack up RBIs if you hit him in the middle of a lineup that routinely has guys on base in front of him

in other words its the other stats that really tell the story.. far more than RBI numbers

- Crimsoninja

thats not a bad explanation. i just dont think it tells the whole story of guys who are clutch and elevate their average with RISP, or who may not get a hit but know how to consistently either get the ground ball or sac fly to get the run in. although i guess they are technically stats to themselves as well. god damn it
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 19 @ 5:22 PM ET
Its just odd cause I thought advanced stats would show why the great players are great and then go down in player quality you'd see so and so is actually a highly effective player. Instead one side has over a 3 year period that Tyler Kennedy has the 2nd best Corsi #s and that's where I stopped caring.
- mrhattrick27

yeah im the same
i just dont care

but to dismiss them is kind of foolish, imo
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 19 @ 5:23 PM ET
pretty sure the theory is that any guy who has good power numbers, slugging %, etc..will rack up RBIs if you hit him in the middle of a lineup that routinely has guys on base in front of him

in other words its the other stats that really tell the story.. far more than RBI numbers

- Crimsoninja


i think i get what they're driving at from a "predicting future returns" angle (if you are building a team, looking at the runs a guy's driven in before might not be the best predictor of future rbis)

it starts to piss me off when people write-off rbis as indicators of a successful season, however (heard a lot of this last year during the al mvp talks). driving in runs is pretty much the definition of success as a hitter. whether or not he can repeat it is one thing, but if a guy kills it with rbi's it's pretty silly to say he didn't have a successful year at the plate. just my opinion

EDIT: same for hockey (rbi's roughly equivalent to goals...the "payoff")
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