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Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Jul 18 @ 8:52 PM ET
Neal is a 40 goal scorer...he'd be paid 8 million on the open market and his salary is 5 million.
That's the best bargain in hockey.

- quinnjj


I'd say Tavares at 5.5 might be a bigger bargain lmao
716buffalo
Joined: 05.31.2013

Jul 18 @ 8:54 PM ET
Garth? Is that you? The guy isn't even a third liner yet, put up 17 points in 61 AHL not NHL games. Unless your "boy was I wrong" was to say he's not good enough, wait till he even produces at the AHL level.

Not ready for the NHL offensively IMO, would be a mistake to put him in if they ever want him to be more then a bottom 6 guy.

- TheLeafsInsider


Never said he was ready, prlly another full year, thats it. & no, i thought he would be a bottom 6 guy but he wont be. Kid can play. Lucic clone except more offensively gifted.

O and he had a concussion early on in his.first ever pro season. & still put up 17 . points , & was great in playoffs down there. Im impressed
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Jul 18 @ 8:55 PM ET
Lol..

Yea i bet you would trade vanek for stastny straight up... Total landslide food deal for avs

Avs are my second favorite team but thats not right..

Id really want the trade to center around mcginn for vanek and a guy like pysyk or mcnabb

- JVince11


Was that a mistake? Anyways Vanek is an amazing player but he just isnt a good fit for the Avs and him having 7M cap hit in a year where the cap is going down really hurts his value. Could get more from another team.
716buffalo
Joined: 05.31.2013

Jul 18 @ 8:59 PM ET
I could see them doing better next year or until their D improves, however it will be easier for the Avs to put together a solid Defense than it will be for Buffalo to come close to the firepower on offense the Avs have. Also its tough to predict how things will turn out with the Avs new coach and the new Divisions.

Young Dmen take a very long time to develop

- Meeqsb


True, but you guys have all number 4 & 5 guys.

We have all top pair guys or close to.
I believe even weber could be a number 2
TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Choke Central, ON
Joined: 03.30.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:00 PM ET
Never said he was ready, prlly another full year, thats it. & no, i thought he would be a bottom 6 guy but he wont be. Kid can play. Lucic clone except more offensively gifted.

O and he had a concussion early on in his.first ever pro season. & still put up 17 . points , & was great in playoffs down there. Im impressed

- 716buffalo


Highly disagree with your comparison based on looking on his past stats, and from what I've read about him on most sites, admittedly haven't seen him myself much tho. His stats and body make me think more Martin Hanzal type guy. I'd say if he turns into that type of player it's a success, if not I guess you may be left with Dave Steckel.

Actually there's no way he's Steckel bad but still.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 18 @ 9:01 PM ET
Was that a mistake? Anyways Vanek is an amazing player but he just isnt a good fit for the Avs and him having 7M cap hit in a year where the cap is going down really hurts his value. Could get more from another team.
- Meeqsb


I would take Stastny in Buffalo, I think he needs a change of scenery. I think there is more to what Stastny's dad said a year or so ago.

He was captain of the USA team in this past world tourney and led the team in points.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:02 PM ET
Was that a mistake? Anyways Vanek is an amazing player but he just isnt a good fit for the Avs and him having 7M cap hit in a year where the cap is going down really hurts his value. Could get more from another team.
- Meeqsb


Hm
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 18 @ 9:03 PM ET
Highly disagree with your comparison based on looking on his past stats, and from what I've read about him on most sites, admittedly haven't seen him myself much tho. His stats and body make me think more Martin Hanzal type guy. I'd say if he turns into that type of player it's a success, if not I guess you may be left with Dave Steckel.

Actually there's no way he's Steckel bad but still.

- TheLeafsInsider


Girgensons has all the tools regarding leadership and work ethic, it is just a matter if he can translate that to the NHL level and put up some numbers. He was the best player for the Amerks in the playoffs, that brings a glimmer of hope there.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:03 PM ET
True, but you guys have all number 4 & 5 guys.

We have all top pair guys or close to.
I believe even weber could be a number 2

- 716buffalo


EJ is still a top 2 dman, at worst he is an AMAZING 3. Hejda is a solid top 4 and as good as I think the Buffalo defense could be in the future, right now it is still below average and it will be quite some time before many of your prospects will be able to make a difference.

The only Weber that is a top 2 is Shea, not mike.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 18 @ 9:03 PM ET
No u think very highly of mcginn...

I look at colorados roster... They dont have any speed to them outside of macK really..


My offer would be

Vanek and pysyk

For

Mcginn, sgarbossa, and a 2nd.. With the 2nd becoming a first if vanek resigns

I think it is very fair.. Col has a TON of cap space.. They have a full roster right now with 10m to spare

- JVince11

Why do people continue to make crap offers to give Vanek away, Jamie McGinn ? are you serious?
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:03 PM ET
Weber at 4 million per
Foligno
Armia
1st round pick

- quinnjj

JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:05 PM ET
Why do people continue to make crap offers to give Vanek away, Jamie McGinn ? are you serious?
- SABRES 89




Nothing so far for vanek is a great offer... And he doesnt want to play here
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:05 PM ET
No u think very highly of mcginn...

I look at colorados roster... They dont have any speed to them outside of macK really..


My offer would be

Vanek and pysyk

For

Mcginn, sgarbossa, and a 2nd.. With the 2nd becoming a first if vanek resigns

I think it is very fair.. Col has a TON of cap space.. They have a full roster right now with 10m to spare

- JVince11


This whole post is sooo wrong lmao. I am not sure if you are kidding or not, but if you are I'd rather not go into all the reasons why this is incorrect on many levels.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 18 @ 9:08 PM ET
Mcginn is a top 6 guy IMO..

Nothing so far for vanek is a great offer... And he doesnt want to play here

- JVince11

McGinn is noplace near a top 6 guy, no way should Vanek be moved for him if Vanek is moved at all and he shouldn't be.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:10 PM ET
McGinn is noplace near a top 6 guy, no way should Vanek be moved for him if Vanek is moved at all and he shouldn't be.
- SABRES 89


I looked because the flack... I have no idea who i was thinking of... But not mcginn... Idk... Ive been in training classes all week...

My brain is fried... Thats my bad...
quinnjj
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.05.2012

Jul 18 @ 9:11 PM ET
I'd say Tavares at 5.5 might be a bigger bargain lmao
- Meeqsb


When did Tavares ever score 40 goals?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 18 @ 9:12 PM ET
I looked because the flack... I have no idea who i was thinking of... But not mcginn... Idk... Ive been in training classes all week...

My brain is fried... Thats my bad...

- JVince11

He was a throw away with the Sharks, that's where the AVS got him from. If Darcy trades Vanek he's a fool, he should do what it takes to show him this rebuild or retool will take little time. If he did things the right way, that very well could happen.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 18 @ 9:13 PM ET
No u think very highly of mcginn...

I look at colorados roster... They dont have any speed to them outside of macK really..


My offer would be

Vanek and pysyk

For

Mcginn, sgarbossa, and a 2nd.. With the 2nd becoming a first if vanek resigns

I think it is very fair.. Col has a TON of cap space.. They have a full roster right now with 10m to spare

- JVince11


Pysyk on his own has more upside than any of the pieces coming back.

Also I fully disagree with your point on Colorado's team speed. See Duchene and Landeskog.
Cmulvey12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 18 @ 9:13 PM ET
Ehrhoff risto
Myers zadarov
Weber mccabe

Defense wins championships
New jersey devils 101
Lol

I think people are too caught up in it.
Dont think we will be that bad of a team.
Gta remember last year was a.fluke lockout.
Players werent together, players were hurt overseas, barley a training camp.
It put all the young teams at a disadvantage.

But , i still bet the sabres win more games than the avs,

- 716buffalo

Don't forget Pysyk...and possibly even McNabb
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 18 @ 9:14 PM ET
When did Tavares ever score 40 goals?
- quinnjj


When did Neal single handedly carry his teams offense year after year and turn two former AHL lifers into 1st line wingers?
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:14 PM ET
He was a throw away with the Sharks, that's where the AVS got him from. If Darcy trades Vanek he's a fool, he should do what it takes to show him this rebuild or retool will take little time. If he did things the right way, that very well could happen.
- SABRES 89


I got cha... I know now... My brain just wasnt working for a second there...

God id love to get neal from pitt to put next to vanek and coho...

Thatd be a nice line and could get vanek to resign
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Jul 18 @ 9:15 PM ET
Any truth to the rumor that you guys are going Nashville puke yellow for the third jersey????
quinnjj
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.05.2012

Jul 18 @ 9:15 PM ET
Pysyk on his own has more upside than any of the pieces coming back.

Also I fully disagree with your point on Colorado's team speed. See Duchene and Landeskog.

- Sabresfan-365


Don't ever use potential of prospects as an argument because 75% of the highest rated prospects flame out.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:16 PM ET
Pysyk on his own has more upside than any of the pieces coming back.

Also I fully disagree with your point on Colorado's team speed. See Duchene and Landeskog.

- Sabresfan-365


Hey i deleted that for a reason... I had a brain fart...

But really... Duchene and mack arw the only fast guys... I didnt think gabriel had fast wheels.. I thought he was more of a power forward typpe
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:16 PM ET
Any truth to the rumor that you guys are going Nashville puke yellow for the third jersey????
- muffin_man

Completely true
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