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BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 18 @ 10:23 PM ET
Ok.... Next debate....

Rank these 3 goalies. Brodeur, Roy, Hasek

- PLindbergh31

Roy easily
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 18 @ 10:24 PM ET
Haha ok maybe sometimes but Orr was at the side of the net and the goalie flew out, landed on his ass and waited for Orr to just skate around the net and put it in. I don't think Orr even made a move, in fact it's possible the goalie slipped and just didn't get up. Either way, any goalie that does something as terrible as that today gets pulled. Yet it's still a top 10 goal of all time? I don't think so. Awesome hero run with a lucky empty-net finish is more like it.
- JAKEw1234


I'm just trying to figure out what a hero run is. Bobby Orr was just lucky ranks right up there with Gretzky scored all his goals due to his on ice bodyguard.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 18 @ 10:24 PM ET
Ok.... Next debate....

Rank these 3 goalies. Brodeur, Roy, Hasek

- PLindbergh31


Roy, Brodeur, Hasek.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:24 PM ET
Can you believe 2 years after the Flyers gave him that contract, he's basically become a pariah. Unreal.

I don't think NHL teams want anything to do with the guy.

- PLindbergh31

Yeah, I think teams are gonna stay far far far away from him. I think Bryz goes to the KHL anyway, it's his Motherland
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:25 PM ET
2001 SCF, Roy near end of his career, Brodeur in his prime, Roy outplayed Brodeur.

That's big.

- PLindbergh31

I agree, Roy was a beast. I loved the shyt out of him. Excellent goalie
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:29 PM ET
Roy easily
- BingoLady


Not sure about easily. But I agree. The stats say otherwise, but the eye test to me said Roy was the best.

I think my dislike for Brodeur skews my view of him.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:29 PM ET
Roy, Brodeur, Hasek.
- 77rams


The guy with 6 Vezina's last huh?

The thing is, someone can put them in any order and would have a valid argument.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 18 @ 10:30 PM ET
I'm just trying to figure out what a hero run is. Bobby Orr was just lucky ranks right up there with Gretzky scored all his goals due to his on ice bodyguard.
- MJL

Again, never said Gretzky was bad. I think he's the best of all times. I just think it's much harder to score in today's game, and it's unfair to say the superstars of today can't even come close to being compared to Gretzky.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:30 PM ET
I agree, Roy was a beast. I loved the shyt out of him. Excellent goalie
- bigmookalookie


Roy was a monster. I loved watching him.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:32 PM ET
Not sure about easily. But I agree. The stats say otherwise, but the eye test to me said Roy was the best.

I think my dislike for Brodeur skews my view of him.

- PLindbergh31

I dislike Broduer but i'd say Hasek had the weakest D corps out of all of them. Buffs D was no where near as god as the D corps put in front of either Broduer or Roy
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 18 @ 10:32 PM ET
Ok.... Next debate....

Rank these 3 goalies. Brodeur, Roy, Hasek

- PLindbergh31


Roy, Hasek, Brodeur
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:32 PM ET
Roy was a monster. I loved watching him.
- PLindbergh31

(frank) yeah he was, some games he was (frank)ing god like
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 18 @ 10:33 PM ET
Roy, Hasek, and Brodeur
- bigmookalookie

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:34 PM ET
I dislike Broduer but i'd say Hasek had the weakest D corps out of all of them. Buffs D was no where near as god as the D corps put in front of either Broduer or Roy
- bigmookalookie


Agreed. I wish Brodeur played for less defensive friendly teams. God damned Calgary for drafting Trevor Kidd instead of Brodeur.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:34 PM ET
Roy, Hasek, Brodeur
- Jsaquella


That's how I would rank them.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 18 @ 10:35 PM ET
Again, never said Gretzky was bad. I think he's the best of all times. I just think it's much harder to score in today's game, and it's unfair to say the superstars of today can't even come close to being compared to Gretzky.
- JAKEw1234


Well, I haven't read a valid argument that points out that it's unfair. You mentioned Stamkos. Do you think that Stamkos and Mike Bossy are comparable players skill wise?
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:35 PM ET
Agreed. I wish Brodeur played for less defensive friendly teams. God damned Calgary for drafting Trevor Kidd instead of Brodeur.
- PLindbergh31

:lol Kidd was good for a few season Well in NHL 94 he wasn't half bad, BTW im looking forward to NHL 14 esp for that reason, NHL 9(frank)ing4
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 18 @ 10:36 PM ET
I dislike Broduer but i'd say Hasek had the weakest D corps out of all of them. Buffs D was no where near as god as the D corps put in front of either Broduer or Roy
- bigmookalookie


If you had a poor defensive team, probably want to choose Hasek.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 18 @ 10:38 PM ET
That's how I would rank them.
- PLindbergh31


Roy's run in 1993 is up there with any goalie, ever.

And even though Brodeur was third, the guy was an incredible goalie for a long time. I put him third because I've never seen him utterly take over like Roy and Hasek did, but he never really had to.

But he was another guy that rarely allowed a goal when his team got a lead.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:38 PM ET
Well look at what McDavid does now, as an example of his physical prowess he'll have over other prospects. He's 16 now, and per USA Today, "Typically, the 5-11, 175-pound McDavid works out for six hours daily beginning at 9:30 a.m. at Erie Insurance Arena. When not at the rink, or traveling, the teenager takes online high school courses so he can graduate on time in Canada." He doesn't even go to school. He's just hockey, all day, and all night. Nothing but hockey and working out in order to be better at hockey. His size is close to NHL ready now, and he's still 2 years away from the draft.
- JAKEw1234


I am completely convinced he's the next one. Crosby can't hold this kids jock. I was watching highlights of Morin. I was wondering who this kid was during most of the highlights of Morin. It was Mcdavid making unbelievable passes. Looking like a man amongst boys against players 2 years older than him.

Flat out unbelievable.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 18 @ 10:38 PM ET
If you had a poor defensive team, probably want to choose Hasek.
- MJL

I agree, Hasek covered up a lot of Defensive Ooooooppppsies
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:39 PM ET
Ok.... Next debate....

Rank these 3 goalies. Brodeur, Roy, Hasek

- PLindbergh31


Easy

1. Hasek
2. Brodeur
3. Roy
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:40 PM ET
Roy's run in 1993 is up there with any goalie, ever.

And even though Brodeur was third, the guy was an incredible goalie for a long time. I put him third because I've never seen him utterly take over like Roy and Hasek did, but he never really had to.

But he was another guy that rarely allowed a goal when his team got a lead.

- Jsaquella


Well said. Brodeur was asked to do the least. Very interesting debate with those 3 players.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:40 PM ET
Roy easily
- BingoLady


typical montreal
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 18 @ 10:41 PM ET
The guy with 6 Vezina's last huh?

The thing is, someone can put them in any order and would have a valid argument.

- PLindbergh31


OK. Hasek, Roy, Brodeur.

I guess it was Karl Dykhuis' bouncer from the blueline that beat Hasek for a PO OT winner that is burned into my memory kinda leans me toward that order.

That said, any order would be fine with me really. But if I had to choose one, it would be Roy.
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