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rustbelt82
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
If I am Darcy I tell St.Louis THis is what i want

Miller and a 4th for Oshie, Halak, 2nd. Conditional if Miller signs an extension for 3+ years or St Louis makes it to the SCF, then it becomes a first.

I then move Vanek for McGinn, Stastny+ a 2nd. again contingent on if Vanek resigns with the team. If not it is Stastny and McGinn.

- ImThatGuy


no way they would accept that
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 17 @ 5:01 PM ET
Oh good Lord........both Oshie and Halak AND a higher pick?
- GSimp1


I said If I am DArcy, DO i think he will get that, no. But that is where you start, you start high and then negotiate.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 17 @ 5:01 PM ET
Oh good Lord........both Oshie and Halak AND a higher pick?
- GSimp1

Yes. And throw in Shattenkirk and Stewart also.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 17 @ 5:01 PM ET
no way they would accept that
- rustbelt82


Maybe we should go with your stupid Ass idea and trade them both for a 4th rd pick.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 17 @ 5:02 PM ET
I said If I am DArcy, DO i think he will get that, no. But that is where you start, you start high and then negotiate.
- ImThatGuy



"Darcy speaks a different language"

Brian Burke
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 17 @ 5:03 PM ET
"Darcy speaks a different language"

Brian Burke

- dadeadhead


Exactly. Try to put your mind where Darcy's is. IMO that is what he would ask for.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 17 @ 5:03 PM ET
"Darcy speaks a different language"

Brian Burke

- dadeadhead

Is it Portuguese?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 17 @ 5:04 PM ET
Yes. And throw in Shattenkirk and Stewart also.
- Pierceme69


Be the GM of the Sabres. and Offer me a trade for Miller to the Blues. And i will respond.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 17 @ 5:07 PM ET
Is it Portuguese?
- Pierceme69



Sanskrit.
GSimp1
St Louis Blues
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 17 @ 5:08 PM ET
Yes. And throw in Shattenkirk and Stewart also.
- Pierceme69


Ok.......NOW we have a deal!
MattDuchene9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jul 17 @ 5:17 PM ET
If I am Darcy I tell St.Louis THis is what i want

Miller and a 4th for Oshie, Halak, 2nd. Conditional if Miller signs an extension for 3+ years or St Louis makes it to the SCF, then it becomes a first.

I then move Vanek for McGinn, Stastny+ a 2nd. again contingent on if Vanek resigns with the team. If not it is Stastny and McGinn.

- ImThatGuy


Sorry but Vanek isn't worth two top six players and a 2nd round pick
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 17 @ 5:19 PM ET
Be the GM of the Sabres. and Offer me a trade for Miller to the Blues. And i will respond.
- ImThatGuy


I don't think StL is a good trade partner
They still need to get rid of salarary...
Not take more on
Miller would def improve them in net,
But who would they have to move to fit him under the cap?
And how would they replace those guys?
I just don't see it happening w the Blues
MattDuchene9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jul 17 @ 5:22 PM ET
If I am Darcy I tell St.Louis THis is what i want

Miller and a 4th for Oshie, Halak, 2nd. Conditional if Miller signs an extension for 3+ years or St Louis makes it to the SCF, then it becomes a first.

I then move Vanek for McGinn, Stastny+ a 2nd. again contingent on if Vanek resigns with the team. If not it is Stastny and McGinn.

- ImThatGuy


And the last thing the sabres need is an undersized center. You're making Darcy look like an amazing GM
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 17 @ 5:23 PM ET
Sorry but Vanek isn't worth two top six players and a 2nd round pick
- MattDuchene9


He's worth more
Since the last lockout he is 8th in the league in goals scored
He's one of the best in the league in front of the net, maybe the best
That said,
I want nothing to do w Stastny anyways
I'd rather have picks, prospects &/or young NHLers... That would make more sense for our "rebuild"
BarUpHockey19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ryan Miller retires to be an a, NY
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 17 @ 5:27 PM ET
This is what the Sabres opening day roster should look like. We buy out Drew Stafford. Trade Ryan Miller/Tyler Ennis/Jamie McBain for David Backes/Vladimir Tarasenko/Ty Rattie/Joel Edmunson. Zemgus Girgensons starts in Buffalo. And there you have it a rebuild on the Fly, Resign Vanek and Ott to finish there career here.

FORWARDS

Thomas Vanek / Cody Hodgson / David Backes

Steve Ott / Mikhail Grigorenko / Vladimir Tarasenko

Marcus Foligno / Ville Leino / Brian Flynn

John Scott / Zemgus Girgensons / Patrick Kaleta

DEFENSEMEN

Tyler Myers / Henrik Tallinder

Christian Ehrhoff / Alexander Sulzer

Mike Weber / Mark Pysyk

Chad Ruhwedel

GOALTENDERS

Jhonas Enroth / Matthew Hackett

TO AHL: Kevin Porter/ Ty Rattie/ Joel Edmundson

Cap Space Left: $14,260,935
buffalokb
Joined: 02.24.2011

Jul 17 @ 5:29 PM ET
This is what the Sabres opening day roster should look like. We buy out Drew Stafford. Trade Ryan Miller/Tyler Ennis/Jamie McBain for David Backes/Vladimir Tarasenko/Ty Rattie/Joel Edmunson. Zemgus Girgensons starts in Buffalo. And there you have it a rebuild on the Fly, Resign Vanek and Ott to finish there career here.

FORWARDS

Thomas Vanek / Cody Hodgson / David Backes

Steve Ott / Mikhail Grigorenko / Vladimir Tarasenko

Marcus Foligno / Ville Leino / Brian Flynn

John Scott / Zemgus Girgensons / Patrick Kaleta

DEFENSEMEN

Tyler Myers / Henrik Tallinder

Christian Ehrhoff / Alexander Sulzer

Mike Weber / Mark Pysyk

Chad Ruhwedel

GOALTENDERS

Jhonas Enroth / Matthew Hackett

TO AHL: Kevin Porter/ Ty Rattie/ Joel Edmundson

Cap Space Left: $14,260,935

- BarUpHockey19


People are going to light you up on here for including them.
MattDuchene9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jul 17 @ 5:29 PM ET
This is what the Sabres opening day roster should look like. We buy out Drew Stafford. Trade Ryan Miller/Tyler Ennis/Jamie McBain for David Backes/Vladimir Tarasenko/Ty Rattie/Joel Edmunson. Zemgus Girgensons starts in Buffalo. And there you have it a rebuild on the Fly, Resign Vanek and Ott to finish there career here.

FORWARDS

Thomas Vanek / Cody Hodgson / David Backes

Steve Ott / Mikhail Grigorenko / Vladimir Tarasenko

Marcus Foligno / Ville Leino / Brian Flynn

John Scott / Zemgus Girgensons / Patrick Kaleta

DEFENSEMEN

Tyler Myers / Henrik Tallinder

Christian Ehrhoff / Alexander Sulzer

Mike Weber / Mark Pysyk

Chad Ruhwedel

GOALTENDERS

Jhonas Enroth / Matthew Hackett

TO AHL: Kevin Porter/ Ty Rattie/ Joel Edmundson

Cap Space Left: $14,260,935

- BarUpHockey19


I saw Tarasenko on the sabres and it gave me a good laugh. Hope to god this is a joke
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 17 @ 5:31 PM ET
This is what the Sabres opening day roster should look like. We buy out Drew Stafford. Trade Ryan Miller/Tyler Ennis/Jamie McBain for David Backes/Vladimir Tarasenko/Ty Rattie/Joel Edmunson. Zemgus Girgensons starts in Buffalo. And there you have it a rebuild on the Fly, Resign Vanek and Ott to finish there career here.

FORWARDS

Thomas Vanek / Cody Hodgson / David Backes

Steve Ott / Mikhail Grigorenko / Vladimir Tarasenko

Marcus Foligno / Ville Leino / Brian Flynn

John Scott / Zemgus Girgensons / Patrick Kaleta

DEFENSEMEN

Tyler Myers / Henrik Tallinder

Christian Ehrhoff / Alexander Sulzer

Mike Weber / Mark Pysyk

Chad Ruhwedel

GOALTENDERS

Jhonas Enroth / Matthew Hackett

TO AHL: Kevin Porter/ Ty Rattie/ Joel Edmundson

Cap Space Left: $14,260,935

- BarUpHockey19


NHL 13 much?
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 17 @ 5:32 PM ET
This is what the Sabres opening day roster should look like. We buy out Drew Stafford. Trade Ryan Miller/Tyler Ennis/Jamie McBain for David Backes/Vladimir Tarasenko/Ty Rattie/Joel Edmunson. Zemgus Girgensons starts in Buffalo. And there you have it a rebuild on the Fly, Resign Vanek and Ott to finish there career here.

FORWARDS

Thomas Vanek / Cody Hodgson / David Backes

Steve Ott / Mikhail Grigorenko / Vladimir Tarasenko

Marcus Foligno / Ville Leino / Brian Flynn

John Scott / Zemgus Girgensons / Patrick Kaleta

DEFENSEMEN

Tyler Myers / Henrik Tallinder

Christian Ehrhoff / Alexander Sulzer

Mike Weber / Mark Pysyk

Chad Ruhwedel

GOALTENDERS

Jhonas Enroth / Matthew Hackett

TO AHL: Kevin Porter/ Ty Rattie/ Joel Edmundson

Cap Space Left: $14,260,935

- BarUpHockey19



Ill file this in my "laughable beyond means" file...

Zemgus as 4th... leino at C... not totoention that trade...

I want to punch my own eyes reading this
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 17 @ 5:33 PM ET
Ill file this in my "laughable beyond means" file...

Zemgus as 4th... leino at C... not totoention that trade...

I want to punch my own eyes reading this

- JVince11

We need Rico's take on this
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 17 @ 5:34 PM ET
Halak 's salary would be included in a deal that would have to include a forward like TJ Oshie or Chris Stewart.


Won't happen. Extremely rare for top guys to go for rental players, and it's not like goalies demand a high return as rentals.


The arbitrator will hear Stewart's case on 7/22 in Toronto. If he's awarded $4.5 million per year or more, the Blues will have to seriously considering moving him.


No, they won't. 9mil left to sign Petro and MPS is plenty.


Pietrangelo is RFA and command a hefty yearly salary bump to $6.5+ million. Allen is RFA, as is Pajaarvi. The Blues don't have the luxury of double-digit cap space to sign all of their RFAs.


Yes, they do. 13 is a double digit number, and in millions, their cap space. 3rd most in the NHL, though capgeek lists them as 4th from having an AHL bound guy listed on the roster ATM.

Do they want to suffer yet another first or second round playoff bounce-out at the hands of Jonathon Quick and the LA Kings?


Extremely unlikely, considering the new divisional playoffs. Would require Blues beating Blackhawks in the regular season, or Kings knocking Blackhawks out in the first round after coming in 4 or 5 in their division, or Blues being beaten by 3 or 4 teams in their division in the regular season.

Who better to beat a young American goaltender-thorn in the side like Quick, than Ryan Miller?


How about Jaroslav Halak, who has just as good of playoff stats?


If you are going to go to all the work of copy & pasting quotes from the Post-Dispatch, why not do a little thinking or research on other things you say, especially pure numbers that take ten seconds to look up?
BarUpHockey19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ryan Miller retires to be an a, NY
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 17 @ 5:35 PM ET
well there is a reason im giving them ennis and mcbain to... what else would it take. a first? McNabb? stafford too


so Miller,ennis,Stafford,McNabb,McBain for backes,tarasenko,rattie,and edmundson?

i did all of this on capgeek not NHL 13, not that much of a no life......
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 17 @ 5:36 PM ET
well there is a reason im giving them ennis and mcbain to... what else would it take. a first? McNabb? stafford too


so Miller,ennis,Stafford,McNabb,McBain for backes,tarasenko,rattie,and edmundson?

i did all of this on capgeek not NHL 13, not that much of a no life......

- BarUpHockey19

You did a valiant effort .
BarUpHockey19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ryan Miller retires to be an a, NY
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 17 @ 5:37 PM ET
I dont really care if i get heck for this. keep it comin... im just trying to stay positive ya know. what else is there to do during the offseason as a sabres fan but to just hope
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jul 17 @ 5:41 PM ET
Won't happen. Extremely rare for top guys to go for rental players, and it's not like goalies demand a high return as rentals.




No, they won't. 9mil left to sign Petro and MPS is plenty.



Yes, they do. 13 is a double digit number, and in millions, their cap space. 3rd most in the NHL, though capgeek lists them as 4th from having an AHL bound guy listed on the roster ATM.



Extremely unlikely, considering the new divisional playoffs. Would require Blues beating Blackhawks in the regular season, or Kings knocking Blackhawks out in the first round after coming in 4 or 5 in their division, or Blues being beaten by 3 or 4 teams in their division in the regular season.



How about Jaroslav Halak, who has just as good of playoff stats?


If you are going to go to all the work of copy & pasting quotes from the Post-Dispatch, why not do a little thinking or research on other things you say, especially pure numbers that take ten seconds to look up?

- Antilles


GARTH very rarely ever posts on here anymore like he used to.

That said, if the Blues are trading for Miller, its not a rental move. They'd move quickly to re-sign him. I think Miller would re-sign in STL, its a good team and system in front of him.
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