Double_A
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Location: SK Joined: 06.04.2008
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So how do fans feel about rasks contract?
Unwarranted? Perfect? Too much? Worth the sacrifices?
Personally it seems a little outrageous he gets 7 mil. As Ty mentioned only one other goalie is in that bracket right now, and rinne certainly did far more than Rask to earn the contract (even if its still too much).
Seems kind of hilarious that rask is getting more than quick, when quick was arguably more impressive in the playoffs last year than rask was in 12/13.
Still think he's a great goalie, suppose time will tell if its worth it. - Putzfrau
I was hoping for 6-6.5 after his playoff performance, but am ok with $7. I expect next year Hank will set the bar higher and that contact will start to fall back in terms of being top of the heap.
Quick's deal is a steal ... it's also longer term. |
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Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: 37,000 FT Joined: 07.09.2009
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Anything over 5 years or 5 million for a goalie is wasted money. Overall team D is more important than a stud goalie. |
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JamieE
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Location: BC Joined: 06.15.2013
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Here in Vancouver we know a thing or two about offering goalies really long contracts. It's a big, big risk.
There are very few goaltenders who perform consistently at an elite level for an extended period of years. Luongo is actually one of them, although he has been a very spotty playoff performer.
Rask's contract may turn out to be great value, but you've guaranteed him a huge amount of money over a very long term based on a small sample size of games. |
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fudd1689
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Boston, MA Joined: 09.27.2010
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Anything over 5 years or 5 million for a goalie is wasted money. Overall team D is more important than a stud goalie. - Ogilthorpe2
Luckily the Bruins have both |
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WEWANTCUP
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: ON Joined: 02.01.2013
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Anything over 5 years or 5 million for a goalie is wasted money. Overall team D is more important than a stud goalie. - Ogilthorpe2
Well said Ogi!
2013 Hawks Team D > 2013 Bruins Team D
2013 Bruins Goalie > 2013 Hawks Goalie
RESULT = HAWKS WIN THE STANLEY CUP! |
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pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a Joined: 11.29.2011
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Well said Ogi!
2013 Hawks Team D > 2013 Bruins Team D
2013 Bruins Goalie > 2013 Hawks Goalie
RESULT = HAWKS WIN THE STANLEY CUP! - WEWANTCUP
So.....became a fan after winning the cup? Justin Bieber is that you? |
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Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: 37,000 FT Joined: 07.09.2009
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Luckily the Bruins have both - fudd1689
If you say so....as long as your happy with it. Seems like more so than any other position, long term, big $, goalie contracts have a way of not looking so good a year or two after they're signed....but there's always exceptions. |
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fudd1689
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Boston, MA Joined: 09.27.2010
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If you say so....as long as your happy with it. Seems like more so than any other position, long term, big $, goalie contracts have a way of not looking so good a year or two after they're signed....but there's always exceptions. - Ogilthorpe2
In 5 years Rask salary will be the norm for most players. The cap is only going to increase as revenues rise. Lundquist is up next season and he will surpass Rask and the trend will continue. Same can be said for other positions. I am sure when Crawford is up he will too demand a high salary. |
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Putzfrau
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: reality would be kryptonite to you in the real world. -DoctorNHL Joined: 11.12.2011
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In 5 years Rask salary will be the norm for most players. The cap is only going to increase as revenues rise. Lundquist is up next season and he will surpass Rask and the trend will continue. Same can be said for other positions. I am sure when Crawford is up he will too demand a high salary. - fudd1689
Miller is coming to the end of his contract and it looks worse now than it did when he signed it.
I can see lundqvist surpassing rask, he's arguably the best goalie in the league, but realistically who surpasses him?
And I seriously doubt Crawford is getting anywhere close to seven. |
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Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: 37,000 FT Joined: 07.09.2009
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In 5 years Rask salary will be the norm for most players. The cap is only going to increase as revenues rise. Lundquist is up next season and he will surpass Rask and the trend will continue. Same can be said for other positions. I am sure when Crawford is up he will too demand a high salary. - fudd1689
And hopefully when Crawford's deal is up after next year, Stan offers him a modest raise...say 3 years at $3.5, and if Corey balks at that...then thanks for the memories, and good luck in your future endeavors...see ya! Next. |
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WEWANTCUP
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: ON Joined: 02.01.2013
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So.....became a fan after winning the cup? Justin Bieber is that you? - pker2theend
Spoken like a typical Nuck Fan!
For the record, I have been a Blackhawks fan for almost as long as Vancouver has been without a Stanley Cup, which is like....forever!
And by the way, do you even know what a "nuck" is? For a good laugh, why don't you look up the meaning of the word "nuck" at www.urbandictionary.com |
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Rayven
Boston Bruins |
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Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. Joined: 07.21.2009
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yeah I think these deals will even out in the long run. Hopefully Rask will continue to improve and the Bruins will learn to score a little more. How many one goal 2-1, 3-2 games did we lose last year ? |
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9prostock
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Fredericton, NB Joined: 12.07.2011
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these are good deals if the cap jumps 10% in the next year or two, if so $7million may be the norm for #1 goalies in 4 years, so it won't look like overpaying then at all. Bergeron, he's worth it, look how he played through all those injuries in the playoffs, the guy is a work horse. |
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WEWANTCUP
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: ON Joined: 02.01.2013
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these are good deals if the cap jumps 10% in the next year or two, if so $7million may be the norm for #1 goalies in 4 years, so it won't look like overpaying then at all. Bergeron, he's worth it, look how he played through all those injuries in the playoffs, the guy is a work horse. - 9prostock
You gotta admire Bergeron's worth ethic, but you also have to question whether playing through all those injuries will impact his longevity, particularly if he does this year in and year out, which seems to be the case with Bergeron. |
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GSDIV
Boston Bruins |
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Location: glove_was_stuck: Long ways to go. Still have to beat the Montreal Vaneks, MA Joined: 06.24.2011
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I never said he was a bad goalie, but Rask does play a stand up style that exposes his five-hole, whereas Crawford plays a butterfly style which exposes the top corners of the net, and in particular his glove side....oh that glove side! - WEWANTCUP
I just fell down laughing from reading a post that says Rask plays a "stand up style". The guy probably sleeps in the butterfly position that is how much he does it. |
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GSDIV
Boston Bruins |
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Location: glove_was_stuck: Long ways to go. Still have to beat the Montreal Vaneks, MA Joined: 06.24.2011
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And hopefully when Crawford's deal is up after next year, Stan offers him a modest raise...say 3 years at $3.5, and if Corey balks at that...then thanks for the memories, and good luck in your future endeavors...see ya! Next. - Ogilthorpe2
The Blackhawks are arguably the only team in the NHL that is good enough to have this policy on goalies. They obviously don't need the high priced "elite" goalie to win a cup because of the talent across the roster. They are just the best team in the league, without question IMO.
You have to keep in mind that some teams would be nothing without their goalie, and that in Boston it took a goaltending performance for the ages to win a cup in 2011. This is were salaries are heading for the best goalies in the league. If Quick didn't have more years his salary would be almost the same as Rask's. There are more goalies who need deals coming up in the next couple years, and the best ones are going to get paid a lot unless the play for the Hawks in which case the next guy in line gets to play. |
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GSDIV
Boston Bruins |
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Location: glove_was_stuck: Long ways to go. Still have to beat the Montreal Vaneks, MA Joined: 06.24.2011
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Anything over 5 years or 5 million for a goalie is wasted money. Overall team D is more important than a stud goalie. - Ogilthorpe2
This theory changes almost year to year because of what kind of team wins the cup. After 2010 there was a lot of talk that Niemi was an example of how you don't need the stud goalie, and then two years in a row after the goalies were the biggest factor in the team winning the cup. Now we are back to "see you don't need a stud goalie to win look at Crawford". |
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One_Eyed_Sweede
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Angry One Eyed Swede, MA Joined: 07.01.2013
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I miss Peverly... I wonder how his beard is doing in Dallas. - TheJerseyDevil1
Said no one ever |
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One_Eyed_Sweede
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Angry One Eyed Swede, MA Joined: 07.01.2013
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$7 million for 8 years for "Five-Hole" Rask?
Good Luck with that! - WEWANTCUP
awww so cute a Chicago "fan" |
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Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: 37,000 FT Joined: 07.09.2009
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The Blackhawks are arguably the only team in the NHL that is good enough to have this policy on goalies. They obviously don't need the high priced "elite" goalie to win a cup because of the talent across the roster. They are just the best team in the league, without question IMO.
You have to keep in mind that some teams would be nothing without their goalie, and that in Boston it took a goaltending performance for the ages to win a cup in 2011. This is were salaries are heading for the best goalies in the league. If Quick didn't have more years his salary would be almost the same as Rask's. There are more goalies who need deals coming up in the next couple years, and the best ones are going to get paid a lot unless the play for the Hawks in which case the next guy in line gets to play. - GSDIV
Chicken or egg? What comes first, the better overall team, or the budget net minder? By paying the goalie less, it makes it easer to afford 6 quality D-men and depth forwards. Better to have a great team and average goalie than the other way around IMO. Detroit was the best team in the league for years using a mix of average goalies (Osgood), and aging vets on short term deals (Hasek, Vernon). Seems to be a cornerstone of the Bowman philosophy of winning in the NHL. Worked for Detroit for years, and now it's working for Chicago. I'm a believer. |
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Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: 37,000 FT Joined: 07.09.2009
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awww so cute a Chicago "fan" - One_Eyed_Sweede
Says the guy who joined 5 months after the guy he's making fun of |
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One_Eyed_Sweede
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Angry One Eyed Swede, MA Joined: 07.01.2013
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Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: 37,000 FT Joined: 07.09.2009
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Fountain-San
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME Joined: 02.21.2007
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This theory changes almost year to year because of what kind of team wins the cup. After 2010 there was a lot of talk that Niemi was an example of how you don't need the stud goalie, and then two years in a row after the goalies were the biggest factor in the team winning the cup. Now we are back to "see you don't need a stud goalie to win look at Crawford". - GSDIV
bump for know it all Ogilthorpe |
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One_Eyed_Sweede
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Angry One Eyed Swede, MA Joined: 07.01.2013
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So this comment wasn't based on WEWANTCUP's membership date? If not, then what are you suggesting? Please tell me you are going for the ever popular, yet oh so ignorant, all Hawk "fans" are bandwagon fans argument. Is that it? Very original. - Ogilthorpe2
OK wow... You sir, need to relax.
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