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BoltsFan4Life
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jul 17 @ 10:00 PM ET
This ranking is a year OLD!!
- bradstar


Crazycaboose
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 17 @ 10:01 PM ET
I love you.
- BoltsFan4Life


We get it you don't need to say the same thing over and over. That happen to be his opinion and thats fine but a lot of people would disagree. Its very debatable who is better and its so close does it matter.
BoltsFan4Life
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jul 17 @ 10:01 PM ET
Trying to say who has the better prospects at this point is like trying to say who won the draft this year. Both teams are pretty close IMO and both have great futures and the new division should be awesome.
- Crazycaboose


I agree! this could boost our rivalry even more!
BoltsFan4Life
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jul 17 @ 10:02 PM ET
We get it you don't need to say the same thing over and over. That happen to be his opinion and thats fine but a lot of people would disagree. Its very debatable who is better and its so close does it matter.
- Crazycaboose


Why not? everybody is stating their opinions without really researching both teams.
Crazycaboose
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 17 @ 10:24 PM ET
Why not? everybody is stating their opinions without really researching both teams.
- BoltsFan4Life


I'm just saying its not so cut and dry. As a panther fan i know how unpredictable prospects are who knows where everything ends up. But all i can say is that i hope we are both are competitive for years to come and our rivalry grows even bigger.
BoltsFan4Life
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jul 17 @ 10:26 PM ET
I'm just saying its not so cut and dry. As a panther fan i know how unpredictable prospects are who knows where everything ends up. But all i can say is that i hope we are both are competitive for years to come and our rivalry grows even bigger.
- Crazycaboose


Of course! I think both organizations have elite talent at the prospect level, I was just arguing with the people who said its not even close. I don't see why it would be so far away? but in about 3-5 years I think this rivalry is gonna be freaking awesome man.
floridapanthers4ev
Florida Panthers
Location: Trumbull, CT
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 17 @ 11:52 PM ET
Not according to organizational rankings...
- spiegs13


Who says they're right? Bjugstad wasn't impressive, Howden wasn't impressive, so please tell me and everyone else what makes these rankings correct?? Remember, Huberdeau and Markstrom cannot be considered prospects anymore, so please come up with a valid response. Doubt you have one coming from someone who didn't even know Wellman wasn't in the organization anymore from your last blog.
Crazycaboose
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 18 @ 12:14 AM ET
Who says they're right? Bjugstad wasn't impressive, Howden wasn't impressive, so please tell me and everyone else what makes these rankings correct?? Remember, Huberdeau and Markstrom cannot be considered prospects anymore, so please come up with a valid response. Doubt you have one coming from someone who didn't even know Wellman wasn't in the organization anymore from your last blog.
- floridapanthers4ev


I didn't get your response about how i couldn't be more wrong about markstrom. You know since right after you said that he resigned right away.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 18 @ 12:27 AM ET
Nothing more exciting than a heated hockey debate between Miami and Tampa Bay in July !
BoltsFan4Life
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jul 18 @ 12:43 AM ET
Nothing more exciting than a heated hockey debate between Miami and Tampa Bay in July !
- golfingsince


I would say you are being sarcastic, but then again, look who is in here with us.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 18 @ 1:04 AM ET
I would say you are being sarcastic, but then again, look who is in here with us.
- BoltsFan4Life

meh, just teasing, I'd love to see a full blown playoff rivalry born in Florida.
BoltsFan4Life
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:18 AM ET
meh, just teasing, I'd love to see a full blown playoff rivalry born in Florida.
- golfingsince


Yeah that would be good for the game, especially here in Florida. Hockey has been really coming around the last decade, with the possibility of two really good Florida teams? that would be great for Hockey in FL.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jul 18 @ 2:24 AM ET
this thread is ridiculous.
BoltsFan4Life
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:28 AM ET
this thread is ridiculous.
- Blackstrom2


go ahead big guy, tell us why.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jul 18 @ 7:23 AM ET
...I dont care who's #1 in someone elses opinion...its not fact... OPINIONS AREN'T FACT...they seem to be highly confused daily on this site though

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/team-rankings/ note who is first here, and where are the lightning? 9th, as I said, its all a matter of opinion

- annoyance_101


Hmm not convinced. Needs more emoticons.
CC PantherFan
Florida Panthers
Joined: 03.23.2009

Jul 18 @ 9:51 AM ET
Nothing more exciting than a heated hockey debate between Miami and Tampa Bay in July !
- golfingsince


I saw what you did there!
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jul 18 @ 11:18 AM ET
http://www.puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1553

Just gonna keep posting this since nobody has posted anything valid to back this stance up...

Note who's 1st...

They're definitely comparable.

- Fosco


Why are you so hell bent on Pronman. He's writing those in his underwear eating pizza. Those organization rankings are bullsh*t. You can't measure development.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jul 18 @ 1:59 PM ET
Why are you so hell bent on Pronman. He's writing those in his underwear eating pizza. Those organization rankings are bullsh*t. You can't measure development.
- Boinker


I'm not. Pronman's is just one of the most recent lists. HF's is no better.

I actually despise both his and HF's rankings. They're rubbish, especially Pronman's evaluation methods, and HF's seemingly arbitrary grading system.

Just playing the devils advocate, and showing the blogger that his statement is incorrect—there are a number of popular sites/organizations that do organizational rankings, and one of the more popular ones, and most recent, has TB ranked ahead of FLA.

The people claiming that FLA and TB's pools are "Not. Even. Close" are wrong.

They are close, and both very good, regardless of whose is actually better.
clarkey
Location: Pembroke Pines, FL
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 18 @ 3:07 PM ET
I'm not. Pronman's is just one of the most recent lists. HF's is no better.

I actually despise both his and HF's rankings. They're rubbish, especially Pronman's evaluation methods, and HF's seemingly arbitrary grading system.

Just playing the devils advocate, and showing the blogger that his statement is incorrect—there are a number of popular sites/organizations that do organizational rankings, and one of the more popular ones, and most recent, has TB ranked ahead of FLA.

The people claiming that FLA and TB's pools are "Not. Even. Close" are wrong.

They are close, and both very good, regardless of whose is actually better.

- Fosco


Your point is a good one and I am in agreement that both teams have enviable prospect pools being developed. You do seem to flip flop a lot though in the sense that you are now indicating that Pronman's "no better" than the HF list and you now referring to the arbitrariness of both sites' evaluations when you previously used multiple posts with links to Pronman's list as a means of asserting that Spiegel's initial blog assertion was flawed by claiming hockey pundits declare the Panthers a top prospect system. If your true feeling was as your most recent post makes it out to be, than your initial posts with repeated links to Pronman and a proviso that you would keep posting the link until someone showed up with something else (which someone did, with the HF list) don't make sense.

All much ado about nothing though. Both teams have an exceptional prospect pool that will hopefully lead to both teams finding a resurgence at roughly the same time. Both markets have great fans but the rivalry needs to get serious to rekindle some good, healthy interstate hatred. Hopefully that is coming in the next two years for both teams.

If there is one major difference in prospect pools between the two it is that Tampa has a general lack of top end defensive prospects while the Panthers have a deeper pool of top end defensive talent in the pipeline.

scianora!
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 18 @ 3:41 PM ET
Hmm not convinced. Needs more emoticons.
- Not_Yan

PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

Jul 18 @ 3:45 PM ET
If getting front page on NHL.com is an accomplishment, you must be at rock bottom
- XxHarounXx




Said the mugwump who's Dad last heard his beloved Maple Leafs hoist the Stanley Cup through the speakers of his brand new 1967 Mustang.
pantherfan12
Florida Panthers
Joined: 07.23.2008

Jul 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
Nothing more exciting than a heated hockey debate between Miami and Tampa Bay in July !
- golfingsince


Sunrise, not Miami!
XxHarounXx
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sam Gagner dealt to Toronto for Gardiner+ - Cloutier, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jul 18 @ 4:44 PM ET
Said the mugwump who's Dad last heard his beloved Maple Leafs hoist the Stanley Cup through the speakers of his brand new 1967 Mustang.
- PanthersGoal

So how many cups have the Panthers' won...
Crazycaboose
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 18 @ 4:46 PM ET
So how many cups have the Panthers' won...
- XxHarounXx


The same amount as the leafs since we joined the league.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jul 18 @ 5:05 PM ET
The same amount as the leafs since we joined the league.
- Crazycaboose

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