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deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:41 PM ET
There's so much hindsight with the Gagner contract situation. Nobody would've wanted Gagner locked up for very long, me included. He didn't deserve it back then. It's only because his play picked up this year that people say he should have been locked up long term
- TomKlassen


he's still young. has plenty of opportunities to flourish in edm with the linemates given to him. it's not like it was hemsky, didn't have many other highly skilled players to play with. i just like to see him sign a 4 or 5 year term max. he deserves it.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 16 @ 3:41 PM ET
carefull thenugeishuge will think that what he's getting ....
- zazzle

"If the ruling is over 3.5 mil (which it it will be) will the oiler walk away from the ruling?"

obviously over 3.5M is expected
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:41 PM ET
I've never really understood the hate for Gagner. 4.65M/5-6years with LNMC. BOOM! Great second line centre. And I'm sure he will gladly play even harder for Eakins.
- ChetManly


He's worth anywhere from 4.5 to 5.5m/year... if he wants a LNTC, He needs to sign for 4-4.25
TomKlassen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 16 @ 3:41 PM ET
ya I don't like it. MacT said it's in Eakins' hands n he'll be coming to camp with no favourites so who knows.
- TheNugeIsHuge

I feel like MacT will at least tell Eakins a scouting report on the roster.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:42 PM ET
Has an arbitrator ever given out a NTC/NMC?
- BigDre


No. If they are awarded by the arbitrator they cant be traded for the season.
Boom.
Calgary Flames
Location: Pominville, AB
Joined: 06.30.2013

Jul 16 @ 3:44 PM ET
Hall should be your captain.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:45 PM ET
Wrote that one last month. Need new material.
- Colin Dambrauskas


Why in the hell they would bring back Cammi that whining female dog with one of the worst contracts ever for a one dimensional one trick pony that will never be anything more than that yet they keep him of all the vets with all the young guys now coming in and will listen to the selfish coward and get bad attitudes introduced into their way of thinking and will poison the team moving forward for years....
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 16 @ 3:46 PM ET
Hall should be your captain.
- Boom.

smid

hell I'd be fine with Gags as C
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 16 @ 3:46 PM ET
"If the ruling is over 3.5 mil (which it it will be) will the oiler walk away from the ruling?"

obviously over 3.5M is expected

- TheNugeIsHuge



so at what ##$$ will they walk away at?

if he's awarded 5.5 mil 1 yr do they keep him?
TomKlassen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 16 @ 3:46 PM ET
Hall should be your captain.
- Boom.

He's the only player on the team who puts the team on his back game in, game out. He also is willing to send a message to the other team. Seems obvious to me
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:47 PM ET
smid

hell I'd be fine with Gags as C

- TheNugeIsHuge



No way man...
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 16 @ 3:48 PM ET
Id assume if they cant get a deal done, theyre trying hard to move him.
He goes to arbitration and gets a 1 year at whatever price, im sure he'll be looking towards seein what he csn get on the open market next year.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jul 16 @ 3:48 PM ET
Why in the hell they would bring back Cammi that whining female dog with one of the worst contracts ever for a one dimensional one trick pony that will never be anything more than that yet they keep him of all the vets with all the young guys now coming in and will listen to the selfish coward and get bad attitudes introduced into their way of thinking and will poison the team moving forward for years....
- Iggysbff


Hmm....could I quote this?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:48 PM ET
so at what ##$$ will they walk away at?

if he's awarded 5.5 mil 1 yr to they keep him?

- zazzle


Yes. I actually think the Oilers would prefer to have him locked for one year. That way they get to re-assess the roster and his fit this year. If they want to lock him up long term during the year or next summer they still can.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 16 @ 3:50 PM ET
so at what ##$$ will they walk away at?

if he's awarded 5.5 mil 1 yr to they keep him?

- zazzle

They wont walk away at any price. Desperate for centers. They can afford him for this year too.

1 year is better than no years
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:51 PM ET
They wont walk away at any price. Desperate for centers. They can afford him for this year too.

1 year is better than no years

- hugefemale dog77


would you trade him now or after the one year arb? i trade him right away if possible.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 16 @ 3:52 PM ET
Agreed. His play is certain to regress by the end of his contract, seems like another Horcoff/Moreau situation.
- TomKlassen

I'm more concerned with the fact that he's yet to meet anyone on the team and we are giving him a letter?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 16 @ 3:53 PM ET
No. If they are awarded by the arbitrator they cant be traded for the season.
- Iggysbff

That's offersheets
Boom.
Calgary Flames
Location: Pominville, AB
Joined: 06.30.2013

Jul 16 @ 3:54 PM ET
He's the only player on the team who puts the team on his back game in, game out. He also is willing to send a message to the other team. Seems obvious to me
- TomKlassen


And he probably had the best hockey scar, ever.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 16 @ 3:54 PM ET
would you trade him now or after the one year arb? i trade him right away if possible.
- deks1

Asap.

I wouldnt be surprised if theyre tryin as we speak.

Another 1 year contract isnt what he wants. But he'll take full advantage next year and most likely walk if he does.

Tough situation for mact
fudd1689
Boston Bruins
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 09.27.2010

Jul 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
I'm more concerned with the fact that he's yet to meet anyone on the team and we are giving him a letter?
- Lahey


Ference isn't that type of guy that would demand or push for a letter. He didn't get the A in Boston till last year, and he shared it with Kelly. He doesnt need a letter to be a leader in the room.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 16 @ 3:57 PM ET
Ference isn't that type of guy that would demand or push for a letter. He didn't get the A in Boston till last year, and he shared it with Kelly. He doesnt need a letter to be a leader in the room.
- fudd1689

For the record I'm not against giving it to him, but if they are suggesting already that he should get it something is wrong. Lets wait until training camp.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jul 16 @ 3:58 PM ET
Hall should be your captain.
- Boom.


Finally some one making some sence... and he's a flames fan.
fudd1689
Boston Bruins
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 09.27.2010

Jul 16 @ 3:59 PM ET
For the record I'm not against giving it to him, but if they are suggesting already that he should get it something is wrong. Lets wait until training camp.
- Lahey


Agreed I would wait till training camp like you said, or after the 1st year.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 16 @ 4:00 PM ET
Asap.

I wouldnt be surprised if theyre tryin as we speak.

Another 1 year contract isnt what he wants. But he'll take full advantage next year and most likely walk if he does.

Tough situation for mact

- hugefemale dog77


letting him walk... i don't think any of us wants to see that. trade him, don't let him play another season in edm. letting him walk for nothing is just dumb on mac-t part.
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