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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 16 @ 12:09 PM ET
He was surely mediocre with us. It's funny though, he still was over a PPG with the Caps, but it's considered mediocre because he was expected to put 120 points.
- Blackstrom2


And in 2005-2006 Jagrs team finished 6th and was swept in round1 by NJ. Can I change "mediocre" to "non-impactful"?
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 16 @ 12:10 PM ET
Green for Gio, pick.

Take it, take it, take it. He's a Calgary boy, I think.

- Blackstrom2


It is possible...
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 16 @ 12:11 PM ET
Eklund: Jagr says he's Pessimistic. Jagr is a keen businessman. Getting Good.
- Eklund

It been well known for a decade that Jagr was only after one thing. Money. Doesn't matter where or with who. Just who will pay the most. I don't buy this new "good guy" Jagr for a second. He still is selfish and only wants to cash in.
dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jul 16 @ 12:11 PM ET
As for the Flyers though, they quickly found they had signed a rebooted Jagr. JJ 2.0. A player far from selfish in the room, far from lazy. A player who would act like a mentor and a coach to the young players on the team. A player who would teach Claude Giroux how to be a Star.
- "eklund"


For half a season, at least, before getting traded to Boston.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jul 16 @ 12:11 PM ET
And in 2005-2006 Jagrs team finished 6th and was swept in round1 by NJ. Can I change "mediocre" to "non-impactful"?
- Eklund



I remember him getting hurt, and not playing all the games/severely reduced ice time. But if he put up 120+ points, and the team finished sixth and the next highest scorer (his linmates) only had 79 points, that sounds more like a "the other 11 forwards problem" than a Jagr problem.
Frank0721
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jul 16 @ 12:13 PM ET
It is possible...
- Eklund


Wait.. which Green are we talking about? Kings or caps?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 16 @ 12:14 PM ET
As I said a few days ago in another thread, maybe someone will back me up, Jagr has got to be the biggest mercenary in the league. They are all in it for the money, but he is way over the top. You've got maybe 1 good year left, play for a contender and try to win a cup! You really need the money that bad to sign with whoever pays the most. At least maybe we won't hear as much "spin" now when he signs with Carolina or the Oilers or something about how he signed there to mentor the young kids. Money money money
- FlyerAdam30

He's got to fund his gambling addiction somehow.
cranktheradio
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Greensburg, PA
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jul 16 @ 12:15 PM ET
As I said a few days ago in another thread, maybe someone will back me up, Jagr has got to be the biggest mercenary in the league. They are all in it for the money, but he is way over the top. You've got maybe 1 good year left, play for a contender and try to win a cup! You really need the money that bad to sign with whoever pays the most. At least maybe we won't hear as much "spin" now when he signs with Carolina or the Oilers or something about how he signed there to mentor the young kids. Money money money
- FlyerAdam30

His attitude may have changed in the locker room, but to me he is the "same ol' Jagr." He's always been in it for himself. The difference now...he knows his skill set has diminished. Hence, if he had the same attitude he would have very little league interest. Always a smart guy, but also a selfish one. Now, just in a different way.
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 16 @ 12:15 PM ET
I remember him getting hurt, and not playing all the games/severely reduced ice time. But if he put up 120+ points, and the team finished sixth, that sounds more like a "the other 11 forwards problem" than a Jagr problem.
- Blackstrom2


You are correct. Good memory. Can I change it to "he sucked with the Caps, and didn't suck with the Rangers?" Lol. I was more thinking of his attitude pre-lockout to post-lockout. My exact memory was interviewing him one on one in his final year s a Ranger when I covered a Rangers/Predators game in the final season versus one on one interview with the flyers. A different guy.
player
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO, NY
Joined: 02.12.2007

Jul 16 @ 12:18 PM ET
"Expect jagr signing soon"....days and days ago. fake.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 16 @ 12:23 PM ET
Eklund: Jagr says he's Pessimistic. Jagr is a keen businessman. Getting Good.
- Eklund

when I asked the Flyers
FlyerAdam30
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sewell, NJ
Joined: 04.15.2012

Jul 16 @ 12:25 PM ET
His attitude may have changed in the locker room, but to me he is the "same ol' Jagr." He's always been in it for himself. The difference now...he knows his skill set has diminished. Hence, if he had the same attitude he would have very little league interest. Always a smart guy, but also a selfish one. Now, just in a different way.
- cranktheradio

Quite honestly I knew something was up about Jagr when he signed with the Flyers that summer as Ek described in the blog. It made no sense to me why he didnt want to go back to Pitt to finish his career where it started.
benny948
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2013

Jul 16 @ 12:30 PM ET
Hey EK, is there anything going on on the Miller/Vanek front? I know that Darcy said that there is no recent activity but he may be bluffing.
nascarguy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I smell Kraft Dinner, ON
Joined: 01.18.2006

Jul 16 @ 12:30 PM ET
TIME TO HANG EM UP..HES AN OVERPRICED PLUG..TOO SLOW, JUST LOOK AT WHAT HE DID FOR BOSTON..ABSOLUTELY NOTHING..
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 16 @ 12:33 PM ET
"But he is also a savvy businessman"? He's a f'n money whor@.

This is coming from a person that always idolized Jagr. He's been my favorite player for years until the summer of 2011..
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 16 @ 12:33 PM ET
None of this is new. He will sign with whatever team offers him the most money. That is how he ended up in the KHL, Philly and Dallas in the first place.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 16 @ 12:34 PM ET
"But he is also a savvy businessman"? He's a f'n money whor@.

This is coming from a person that always idolized Jagr. He's been my favourite player for years until the summer of 2011..

- Orpik44


And then he did the same thing to the Flyers. Talked all off-season how about how much he loved playing here and the fans only to go to another club because they offered more money. Oh well.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 16 @ 12:35 PM ET
TIME TO HANG EM UP..HES AN OVERPRICED PLUG..TOO SLOW, JUST LOOK AT WHAT HE DID FOR BOSTON..ABSOLUTELY NOTHING..
- nascarguy


This is just false.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 16 @ 12:37 PM ET
And then he did the same thing to the Flyers. Talked all off-season how about how much he loved playing here and the fans only to go to another club because they offered more money. Oh well.
- LordStanley88

...and THAT is SAD. He's such a big part of the Penguins history. He just blew everything up.

Dallas payed what? $4.5M? That's a lot! He shouldn't be getting anything above $2.5M right now.
nascarguy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I smell Kraft Dinner, ON
Joined: 01.18.2006

Jul 16 @ 12:47 PM ET
This is just false.
- LordStanley88

NOTHING FALSE AT ALL..FACT..HE DIDNT SCORE, COULDNT KEEP UP..IF HE WAS SO GREAT, WHY DID DALLAS TRADE HIM, AND BOSTON NOT RESIGN HIM?..DONT SAY MONEY BECAUSE IF A TEAM WANTS SOMEONE BAD ENOUGH, THEY WILL MAKE THE CAP ROOM..HES DONE..END OF STORY.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 16 @ 12:49 PM ET
You may consider him a "savvy businessman" but to many fans he's just a greedy aging and waining super star that continues to try to find leverage to sweeten his own purse.

There's no doubt Jagr is a HOF'r, but this business of trying to squeeze blood from a turnip in the attempts to gain every last possible cent out of the teams interested in him is an embarassment IMO.

Players like Jagr should be looking for that last elusive chance to hoist the cup, not nickel and diming teams in the league they once dominated. Call it greed, call it selfishness call it fair business or whatever, but situations like this will do nothing but further perpetuate the stigma of being yet another European player that cares about nothing but his own agenda.

It's also sad to see such a highly respected and sought after player like Jagr tarnish his own legacy by holding the league hostage while using his negotiations as propoganda to garner more interest from leagues like the KHL.

Shame on Jaromir.
Blue Clam
St Louis Blues
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.16.2009

Jul 16 @ 12:51 PM ET
That's right...you're not from Texas. Clear eyes. Full hearts. Can't lose.
- Eklund


i thought you preferred grey eyes?
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jul 16 @ 12:51 PM ET
NOTHING FALSE AT ALL..FACT..HE DIDNT SCORE, COULDNT KEEP UP..IF HE WAS SO GREAT, WHY DID DALLAS TRADE HIM, AND BOSTON NOT RESIGN HIM?..DONT SAY MONEY BECAUSE IF A TEAM WANTS SOMEONE BAD ENOUGH, THEY WILL MAKE THE CAP ROOM..HES DONE..END OF STORY.
- nascarguy




SPEAKING OF CAPS, TAKE OFF YOUR FREAKIN' CAPS LOCK
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jul 16 @ 12:56 PM ET
Why do so many teams want this guy? Hes old and slow. A waste of a roster spot.
Seitch2
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Port Perry, ON
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jul 16 @ 1:00 PM ET
I think he could work in a leafs uniform under Carlyle. At a reasonable price he could be an effective PP/SO player
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