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rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 16 @ 10:53 PM ET
Last 3 seasons on FOs:

Zajac 12-13: 57.4% (881 FO)/11-12: 57.8% (204 FO)/ 10-11: 55.3% (1278 FO)
Grabovski 12-13: 50.6% (638 FO)/11-12: 51.5% (905 FO)/10-11: 48.4% (1326 FO)
Henrique 12-13: 49.0% (680 FO)/11-12: 48.8% (1026 FO)/ 10-11: NA

Playoffs:
Zajac 2011-12: 54.2% (448 FO)
Henrique 2011-12: 43.7% (339 FO)
Grabovski 2012-13: 44.9% (98 FO)

I wouldn't say it's a tremendous falloff.
Point totals last 3 seasons:

Zajac: 44, 6, 20
Henrique: NA, 51, 16
Grabovski: 58, 51, 16

Who knows. He's hardly a massive downgrade though.

Whatever happened to Steckel?

- FLdevilsFAN


Exactly. Marginally better at best. Why take up cap room on most likely a multi-year deal when we already have depth there? We need wingers. By adding grabovski we get a little bit better taking up some of our remaining cap room and not addressing our true needs.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 16 @ 10:55 PM ET
Zajac and Henrique are also staples on the PK where Grabovski got exactly 0:01 per game on
- bobert836


Not to mention Grabo has yet to produce in a system that requires defensive responsibility. Comparing Grabovski under Ron Wilson's run and gun system really isn't fair in comparison to Henrique and Zajac, who are both very good defensively.
BarryB1124
New Jersey Devils
Location: Bronx, NY
Joined: 03.11.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:57 PM ET
Stastny + COL's 2014 1st rounder for Larsson.


Crazy?

- BraxtanFILM


That's actually very fair. I'd have a hard time saying no to that and I am a big believer in building around Larsson.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 16 @ 11:00 PM ET
That's actually very fair. I'd have a hard time saying no to that and I am a big believer in building around Larsson.
- BarryB1124



Another center that puts up average numbers and a year before he hits UFA. No thank you.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 16 @ 11:08 PM ET


Another center that puts up average numbers and a year before he hits UFA. No thank you.

- rmdevil313

Yeah no way I'd do that
quinnjj
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.05.2012

Jul 16 @ 11:13 PM ET
James Neal???
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 16 @ 11:15 PM ET
James Neal???
- quinnjj


Depends on the price. Unfortunately our assets really begin and end on D, and I know Pittsburgh has been drafting D a lot recently.
bobert836
New Jersey Devils
Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC
Joined: 06.19.2010

Jul 16 @ 11:48 PM ET
Depends on the price. Unfortunately our assets really begin and end on D, and I know Pittsburgh has been drafting D a lot recently.
- rmdevil313


Now, why would we help them? Let them sit in their upcoming cap poop storm
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 17 @ 12:15 AM ET
Now, why would we help them? Let them sit in their upcoming cap poop storm
- bobert836


If we could get a good deal for a 30 goal scorer, why not? He's also locked up long term, so no worries about him jumping ship. I don't mind helping the pens either, kind of the enemy of my enemy type of thing.
Chattis33
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, NJ
Joined: 07.14.2013

Jul 17 @ 12:16 AM ET
Stastny + COL's 2014 1st rounder for Larsson.


Crazy?

- BraxtanFILM

O'Reilly instead of Stastny...
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 17 @ 12:23 AM ET
O'Reilly instead of Stastny...
- Chattis33


O'Reilly's next qualifying offer is 6.5 million. I like the player, but he's going to get an expensive contract as an RFA.
Chattis33
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, NJ
Joined: 07.14.2013

Jul 17 @ 12:36 AM ET
Honestly I would love for people to stop including the Adams in trades there not going anywhere. They are the future of this franchise, along with Gelinas, Merrill, Severson, Schenider, and Boucher.
bobert836
New Jersey Devils
Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC
Joined: 06.19.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:40 AM ET
If we could get a good deal for a 30 goal scorer, why not? He's also locked up long term, so no worries about him jumping ship. I don't mind helping the pens either, kind of the enemy of my enemy type of thing.
- rmdevil313


He's a goal scorer for sure, but the since he's been on the Pens, the only time he's been effective has been when he played with Malkin. Anytime Malkin was out of the lineup or not on his line, Neal was fairly useless, and I think it's safe to say we don't have a centre even close to Malkin's level.

The reason I wouldn't want to help them is because they are one or two guys away from being a serious contender year in and year out, and since they are not only in our conference, but our division, I would prefer not to be the team thats gets them to that point
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:01 AM ET
He's a goal scorer for sure, but the since he's been on the Pens, the only time he's been effective has been when he played with Malkin. Anytime Malkin was out of the lineup or not on his line, Neal was fairly useless, and I think it's safe to say we don't have a centre even close to Malkin's level.

The reason I wouldn't want to help them is because they are one or two guys away from being a serious contender year in and year out, and since they are not only in our conference, but our division, I would prefer not to be the team thats gets them to that point

- bobert836


you think we'll be helping them by taking away Geno's linemate? the guy that posts tons of goals? Losing Neal won't help the Penguins on the ice. He was good in Dallas too. I knew that trade was robbery the second I read it. It's freaking Goligoski; a 2nd pairing puck mover.
bobert836
New Jersey Devils
Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC
Joined: 06.19.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:02 AM ET
O'Reilly's next qualifying offer is 6.5 million. I like the player, but he's going to get an expensive contract as an RFA.
- rmdevil313


Remember back in the day when only franchise players got more than 5m per year? How the times change eh?
bobert836
New Jersey Devils
Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC
Joined: 06.19.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:08 AM ET
you think we'll be helping them by taking away Geno's linemate? the guy that posts tons of goals? Losing Neal won't help the Penguins on the ice. He was good in Dallas too. I knew that trade was robbery the second I read it. It's freaking Goligoski; a 2nd pairing puck mover.
- MartysBetter88


They don't need offense though. They've been trying to find a winger for Crosby for years and yet the most success they've had was when he played with scrubs like Dupuis and Kunitz. Malkin likewise, doesn't need amazing linemates to be successful.

And ya, that trade was nonsense
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:14 AM ET
They don't need offense though. They've been trying to find a winger for Crosby for years and yet the most success they've had was when he played with scrubs like Dupuis and Kunitz. Malkin likewise, doesn't need amazing linemates to be successful.

And ya, that trade was nonsense

- bobert836


They're better with him than without him tho. Kunitz and Dupuis scrubs? Very hard working players. Kunitz has a lot of skill too. Dupuis is probably a 3rd liner without Crosby, but Kunitz is a good player.
bobert836
New Jersey Devils
Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC
Joined: 06.19.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:19 AM ET
They're better with him than without him tho. Kunitz and Dupuis scrubs? Very hard working players. Kunitz has a lot of skill too. Dupuis is probably a 3rd liner without Crosby, but Kunitz is a good player.
- MartysBetter88


Compared to guys they've tried like Hossa, Iginla, etc. they kinda are scrubs. The point is that they don't need a high priced winger to be successful because the money would be best used elsewhere, ie. their god awful D, but as is they can't really do anything about that because of the cap problems they will have soon
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 17 @ 9:45 AM ET
They don't need offense though. They've been trying to find a winger for Crosby for years and yet the most success they've had was when he played with scrubs like Dupuis and Kunitz. Malkin likewise, doesn't need amazing linemates to be successful.

And ya, that trade was nonsense

- bobert836


Neal is a better player than Dupuis and Kunitz. Sure he struggles a bit without Malkin, but his next option is basically Sutter. We are a good possession team so I really don't think that his numbers would fall off that bad. Would I expect 40 goals like he does now? No, but 30+ isn't unreasonable as he was on pace for just under that in his last season in Dallas. He's also 25, so we'd be getting younger with a long term option. If we don't take advantage of their cap situation some other team will.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 17 @ 9:46 AM ET
Compared to guys they've tried like Hossa, Iginla, etc. they kinda are scrubs. The point is that they don't need a high priced winger to be successful because the money would be best used elsewhere, ie. their god awful D, but as is they can't really do anything about that because of the cap problems they will have soon
- bobert836


Their defense is a coaching problem. No matter who they put back there it will most likely be of little difference until they get a coach that can preach a disciplined system.
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 17 @ 10:35 AM ET
Lou meeting with the media this morning

"Status Quo"

MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jul 17 @ 10:54 AM ET
Lou meeting with the media this morning

"Status Quo"


- MannySilvers

MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 17 @ 10:55 AM ET

- MartysBetter88


It actually totally was status quo

kelsok
New Jersey Devils
Location: victoria, BC
Joined: 07.17.2013

Jul 17 @ 12:17 PM ET
I am suprised that no one seems to have mentioned BOBBY RYAN. I don't think he will be a target this year , and I don't think a "KOVY" replacement is possible this year or any year. You won't find one player to replace his mintues , production , or electricity he brought when he touched the puck. HOWEVER , I think if Ryan tanks in OTTAWA we may be able to trade for him , or wait until he is a UFA in 2 years. It's time the Devils stop letting there players go home for nothing ,(Yes I know PARISE may have stayed had we not broke every rule and the bank to get KOVY ) and sign guys like BOBBY RYAN who hail from Jersey!!!!!

In the short term-ish , Brunner would be a good fit in Jersey , as a defensively responsible player who might be able to help Tedenby and Josefson get over the hump.

-Jagr is great , but not for this year in Jersey IMO.
-Grabo may want too much
-Raymond could do what Ray Emery did and take a 1 year deal around 2 MIL and show ppl what he can do .
-Boyes still not sure why this guy is un-signed but a bigger body top 6 guy could fill a hole
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:13 PM ET
No one mentions BOBBY RYAN because BOBBY RYAN just got traded to OTTAWA & still has a couple years left on his deal. I think we'd all like BOBBY RYAN in NJ, but I'm focused on UFA improvements & BOBBY RYAN is not a UFA. In a couple years BOBBY RYAN will be worth a look.
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