ATTENTION FANS OF TREVOR TIMMINS...Just becase the Habs under him have Alot of draftpicks still in the NHL Does Not make him good as a scouting director.Look at Montreal's roster, Half the players are from other teams., They had to get Parros because in 10 years of Timmins drafts, he hasnt found a Fourth Line enforcer How sad is that..Does anybody want any of his picks like Desharnais, Leblanc, Chipchura Higgins etc.. And what has Montreal WON or come close to winning in the last 10 years..
- jillann

I believe that Desharnais was a FA signing. The jury is still out on Leblanc. Chipchura is turning out to be a solid 4th liner and Higgins is a very good 3rd liner who can fill in nicely on the 2nd line when needed.

Can you name any scout in the NHL who hasn't made some bad picks.

Get over yourself already!!

personally i dont see the habs going after a d... what i would like to see is a package for carter. ya hes pricey but hes a big winger that could fit nicely with pacs and pleks.

we have an abundance of d, and with the SEL norris winner in nygrin i think theyll try and get some of the younger guys playing or fighting for those spots
- munky123

No way we trade carter.


I'm not the GM obviousky, but the only people I can see them trading is one of our young d, maybe mitchell, picks and/or prospects.


We do need lw, but I highly doubt we trade one of our core. Although I would like to see Brown traded. I don't hate the guy, but he doesn't impress me much. Can do it all, but just averagely (new word). Not for just Bourqe though.

Hey Kings fans.....
Is Kyle Clifford a untouchable?
That's who I'm hoping Montreal is trying to land.

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A) 22% ) 25% C) 30% D) 17% F) 6% The Fans in Montreal have Spoken

Hey Kings fans.....
Is Kyle Clifford a untouchable?
That's who I'm hoping Montreal is trying to land.
- Mats Naslund

Clifford is a left winger. I believe L.A. is looking for a left winger, so not sure what this would accomplish.

Clifford is a left winger. I believe L.A. is looking for a left winger, so not sure what this would accomplish.
- elcabong

Kings are looking for a top-six LW. Clifford is a 3rd/4th line LW. We have tons of players that can fill the 3rd/4th line winger role. Frattin, King, Pearson, Andreoff can all be used in that capacity. Aside from Bourque, I can't really see who else the Habs have in their system that they would be willing to part with that would fit into the role the Kings are looking to fill.

I'd do Clifford & a 2nd for Bourque, but I don't see why Montreal would agree to that.

Yeah, no doubt. I hope a couple chime in with some ideas. I could live with that trade too. I think we have our foward group, no matter the size, set for the season. We need a physical D in there. It's the biggest hole with Emelin injured until Dec or later. Plus we get him for one year, and get rid of the 3 (or 2?) years left on Bourques deal. Bourques cap hit is good, it's just a risk on the injury issues, but Mitchell comes with those issues too. Does LA have a internal cap?
- SmielmaN

Great idea to unload one of the bigger forwards. Bourque does not fit the team new look.

Kings are looking for a top-six LW. Clifford is a 3rd/4th line LW. We have tons of players that can fill the 3rd/4th line winger role. Frattin, King, Pearson, Andreoff can all be used in that capacity. Aside from Bourque, I can't really see who else the Habs have in their system that they would be willing to part with that would fit into the role the Kings are looking to fill.

I'd do Clifford & a 2nd for Bourque, but I don't see why Montreal would agree to that.
- tkecanuck341

I like it. Add in Mitchell, -LA second. Lets get the GM's on the phone! Hahaha

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A) 22% ) 25% C) 30% D) 17% F) 6% The Fans in Montreal have Spoken
- jillann

You guys are just easy to knock off your game. You're like Pittsburgh, just play rough and your players rage out.

Kings are looking for a top-six LW. Clifford is a 3rd/4th line LW. We have tons of players that can fill the 3rd/4th line winger role. Frattin, King, Pearson, Andreoff can all be used in that capacity. Aside from Bourque, I can't really see who else the Habs have in their system that they would be willing to part with that would fit into the role the Kings are looking to fill.

I'd do Clifford & a 2nd for Bourque, but I don't see why Montreal would agree to that.
- tkecanuck341

I'd do that trade as a Habs fan and here's why.

Clifford is 22 and Bourque 31 both have size 6'2 209 and 6'2 212.
Both play a similar game where Bourque is more a refined scorer then Clifford.
Clifford would be a project that would always be no worse than a 3 rd liner with potential to play second line.

Bourque fills an immediate need for LA and would fit well in their style of play.
Montreal would even save some cap space with the trade as Bourque is a 3.3 cap hit for the next three years Clifford a RFA.

Let me call Bergevin and tell him to write it up, Montreal adds Moen and LA adds Mitchel

Bourque and Moen for Clifford Mitchel and a 2nd.

Kings are looking for a top-six LW. Clifford is a 3rd/4th line LW. We have tons of players that can fill the 3rd/4th line winger role. Frattin, King, Pearson, Andreoff can all be used in that capacity. Aside from Bourque, I can't really see who else the Habs have in their system that they would be willing to part with that would fit into the role the Kings are looking to fill.

I'd do Clifford & a 2nd for Bourque, but I don't see why Montreal would agree to that.
- tkecanuck341

I don't know about having tons of players that can fill LW effectively....frattin is largely unproven, and pearson and andreoff are promising and will get a good look at camp but Lombardi likes to let the kids season a while before bringing them up. And Dwight king....lets get serious, he was good on the cup run but last season he was horrible. We need a real scoring LW. I concur with you that no player is off the table, including Mitchell, but it seems that dean has done a lot of work around the roster expecting him to come back.

Hmmm, bourque for Mitchell?
- SmielmaN

No chance. Id rather give a AHL player a shot at advancing theyre career. I could see us being interested in Eller or Pacioretty. But I do doubt LA makes a big trade and just goes into the season with what they got and lets some kids have a shot.

I think it's a good fit for the habs. Mitchell is a big part of their D-core, so snatching him won't be easy. But I think since he's in the last year of his contract, it's possible. Bourque have a good caphit of 3.33 for another 3 year, so he can certainly be a good fit (kinda big, good scorer, and a LW... maybe it's just me but their only true LW left is Dwight King...).
Kings have 4.2 available on their cap and I don't think they are afraid to go to the cap. Anyway, they have plenty of room for him.
- Frank0721

Far from a good cap hit TBH.

Kings are looking for a top-six LW. Clifford is a 3rd/4th line LW. We have tons of players that can fill the 3rd/4th line winger role. Frattin, King, Pearson, Andreoff can all be used in that capacity. Aside from Bourque, I can't really see who else the Habs have in their system that they would be willing to part with that would fit into the role the Kings are looking to fill.

I'd do Clifford & a 2nd for Bourque, but I don't see why Montreal would agree to that.
- tkecanuck341

Better off letting Cliff develop more. I wouldnt give a 2nd roudner for Bourque.

Why not? Your team takes money from allot of players, thanks to Revenue Sharing.
- PrinceLH

Almost like revenue sharing is a good thing...

No chance. Id rather give a AHL player a shot at advancing theyre career. I could see us being interested in Eller or Pacioretty. But I do doubt LA makes a big trade and just goes into the season with what they got and lets some kids have a shot.
- poisondhearts37

I don't know why you wouldn't do this...Bourque has 3 years left on his contract. Mitchell has one, and he has injury issues that leave his return next season questionable. Bourque is exactly the type of player that Sutter and Lombardi love. Has big size (6'2", 215lbs), likes to throw his weight around, and isn't afraid to drop the gloves if need be. He's been a 20-goal scorer several times. Throw him on a line with Jeff Carter and Mike Richards and watch what happens. I think he would be everything we were hoping Dustin Penner would be.

I don't know about having tons of players that can fill LW effectively....frattin is largely unproven, and pearson and andreoff are promising and will get a good look at camp but Lombardi likes to let the kids season a while before bringing them up. And Dwight king....lets get serious, he was good on the cup run but last season he was horrible. We need a real scoring LW. I concur with you that no player is off the table, including Mitchell, but it seems that dean has done a lot of work around the roster expecting him to come back.
- LAkings68

I think you misread what I wrote there....I said that we have tons of players that can fill the 3rd/4th line LW role, but no one that can effectively play on the 2nd line. We're not going to put 20- or 30-goal scorers on the bottom six pairing. Any one of the four players I mentioned could fill the bottom six role effectively.

I don't know why you wouldn't do this...Bourque has 3 years left on his contract. Mitchell has one, and he has had injury issues. Bourque is exactly the type of player that Sutter and Lombardi love. Has big size (6'2", 215lbs), likes to throw his weight around, and isn't afraid to drop the gloves if need be. He's been a 20-goal scorer several times. Throw him on a line with Jeff Carter and Mike Richards and watch what happens. I think he would be everything we were hoping Dustin Penner would be.
- tkecanuck341

Go back and look at his stats. He has had two good seasons. Hes a big risk when we might be able to get that out of Clifford. Or even Pearson. Toffoli is gonna get his shot at playing LW with Richards and Carter. Hes earned. Kings arent gonna go sign someone to take a spot he's pretty much earned. We dont have room to bring in any big contract. We gotta resign Cliff and Lewis. We cant and arent gonna trade Mitchell. Hes injured and cant be traded. If hes healthy hes gonna play in LA.

Better off letting Cliff develop more. I wouldnt give a 2nd roudner for Bourque.
- poisondhearts37

I think Clifford is a decent player, but I don't forsee him ever being a 20+ goal scorer. He is going to live on the 3rd/4th line. At his best he'll be Steve Ott. At his worst, he'll be Jon Sim.

Go back and look at his stats. He has had two good seasons. Hes a big risk when we might be able to get that out of Clifford. Or even Pearson. Toffoli is gonna get his shot at playing LW with Richards and Carter. Hes earned. Kings arent gonna go sign someone to take a spot he's pretty much earned. We dont have room to bring in any big contract. We gotta resign Cliff and Lewis. We cant and arent gonna trade Mitchell. Hes injured and cant be traded. If hes healthy hes gonna play in LA.
- poisondhearts37

Who said you can't trade an injured player? Just ask Colin Fraser. As long as both teams know that he's injured and sign off, there's no reason you can't do it.

I think Clifford is a decent player, but I don't forsee him ever being a 20+ goal scorer. He is going to live on the 3rd/4th line. At his best he'll be Steve Ott. At his worst, he'll be Jon Sim.
- tkecanuck341

We need him to be atleast a 3rd liner to score 10goals or so. But id rather give him Toff and Pearson a shot in every hole we got before we trade for a risk in Boruque.

Who said you can't trade an injured player? Just ask Colin Fraser. As long as both teams know that he's injured and sign off, there's no reason you can't do it.
- tkecanuck341

Fraser wasnt on the LTIR. Mitchell is on the LTIR. Hes like for sure injured. The Kings were told that Frasher was healthy. Little bit of a diff. With Mitchell on the LTIR we cant trade him. Its the same was we cant use a buyout on him to free the cap space. But again. If he's able to play and start the season. Hes playing for the Kings for the year.

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A) 22% ) 25% C) 30% D) 17% F) 6% The Fans in Montreal have Spoken
- jillann

This has got to be 5 or 6 anti-Timmins posts in the last couple of days. Sounds personal. Jilted lover perhaps? It'll get better.

The poll you just posted suggest they give him about a B- overall. I'm good with that.

Go back and look at his stats. He has had two good seasons. Hes a big risk when we might be able to get that out of Clifford. Or even Pearson. Toffoli is gonna get his shot at playing LW with Richards and Carter. Hes earned. Kings arent gonna go sign someone to take a spot he's pretty much earned. We dont have room to bring in any big contract. We gotta resign Cliff and Lewis. We cant and arent gonna trade Mitchell. Hes injured and cant be traded. If hes healthy hes gonna play in LA.
- poisondhearts37

I'd say 3 seasons. Essentially the entire time he played in Calgary, he played well (3+ 20g seasons then 13g in 38 games in the 4th season before he was traded), and that's because they played him on a line with decent players. Then he went to Montreal and played with weaker linemates and struggled. Put him on a line with Mike Richards and Jeff Carter, and I bet you he gets 20-30+ goals again.

I'd say 3 seasons. Essentially the entire time he played in Calgary, he played well (3+ 20g seasons then 13g in 38 games in the 4th season before he was traded), and that's because they played him on a line with decent players. Then he went to Montreal and played with weaker linemates and struggled. Put him on a line with Mike Richards and Jeff Carter, and I bet you he gets 20-30+ goals again.
- tkecanuck341

But we cant let him take the time from Toff and and Cliff and Pearson. Kids who could be good. We gotta give them a shot. Chicago has been doing it with theyre draft picks.