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dragus84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.25.2012

Jul 15 @ 3:41 PM ET
I can understand he isnt the prototypical #1C. Which is also why he doesnt get paid like one (thankfully).
So would folks be happy to have him as a #2C at 4.25? Still seems like a decent cap hit for a #2 guy.

- TonkaPhaneuf


agreed, but this all sounds very logical.

a far cry from "bozak is the reason the leafs made the playoffs. FACT"
dragus84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.25.2012

Jul 15 @ 3:42 PM ET
love it when ppl post a list of players who will be UFA in 2 years.... OMGGGG Crosby, Malkin and Toews are all gonna hit the open market!!!
- DoubleDown


HAHAHAH yup

as if no teams ever considering signing guys before they hit ufa

if the guys contract is set to expire any time in the next 5 years... he's a ufa and he's coming to toronto cause he's from here, and at a discount
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 15 @ 3:42 PM ET
I can understand he isnt the prototypical #1C. Which is also why he doesnt get paid like one (thankfully).
So would folks be happy to have him as a #2C at 4.25? Still seems like a decent cap hit for a #2 guy.

- TonkaPhaneuf


I just wanted to let him walk or resign for 2 years at 3 mill tops so he doesn't become Grabo #2 which he will now.
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:43 PM ET
That's the thing, everyones rags on Bozak but he has played for two NHL coaches and both have used him as a #1 C. There must be a reason why other than "well, we have no one else"
- PatC80



Hmmmmmmm no, there was no other reason.
TonkaPhaneuf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where'd canucks fans go? -daeth Too busy with the lotto simulator - seagull
Joined: 11.22.2012

Jul 15 @ 3:45 PM ET
agreed, but this all sounds very logical.

a far cry from "bozak is the reason the leafs made the playoffs. FACT"

- dragus84


I never agreed with that statement. The leafs made the playoffs for a variety of reasons. Id start with better goaltending and a better system for the team that Carlyle instituted.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:45 PM ET
what it comes to is this

bozak is pencilled in as the leafs first line centre

now while that could change come training camp its prolly best for all of us to simply accept it.

what i havent seen mentioned much here is maybe nonis sees bozak as his eventual number 2 (which is how he is being paid) with the hope that kadri really comes into his own within a couple seasons to make the whole number one centre debate end once and for all.

in fairness people have suggested it, but i dont agree it will be to start the upcoming season.. i think its at least a year away before truly leaning on kadri as a no. 1 guy
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:45 PM ET
Nothing to assume, Nonis said he made the offer to Bozak on July 4th, prior to Free agency starting. Bozak agreed to the deal on July 5th.
- PatC80



When nobody other than the Leafs offered him a contract?
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:45 PM ET
I think thats exactly it, no other options.

If Lupul played the full season, Bozak would be tied with Dion for 7th on the team in scoring.

- senstroll

Its all about the Points
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:46 PM ET
I just wanted to let him walk or resign for 2 years at 3 mill tops so he doesn't become Grabo #2 which he will now.
- senstroll


in grabo's defense...at least bozak gets to play with legit top 3/6 wingers and has some powerplay time to gather more points.
dragus84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.25.2012

Jul 15 @ 3:46 PM ET
I never agreed with that statement. The leafs made the playoffs for a variety of reasons. Id start with better goaltending and a better system for the team that Carlyle instituted.
- TonkaPhaneuf


which is my point. I'm not necessarily ripping on bozak for the sake of doing so.

I am ripping on the statement itself and how it couldn't be further from the truth. Like I said, serviceable player, and like you said, 4.2m for 2c as the cap goes up isn't THAT bad.

would i of rather had vinny at 4.5 sure, but it is what it is
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:47 PM ET
what it comes to is this

bozak is pencilled in as the leafs first line centre

now while that could change come training camp its prolly best for all of us to simply accept it.

what i havent seen mentioned much here is maybe nonis sees bozak as his eventual number 2 (which is how he is being paid) with the hope that kadri really comes into his own within a couple seasons to make the whole number one centre debate end once and for all.

in fairness people have suggested it, but i dont agree it will be to start the upcoming season.. i think its at least a year away before truly leaning on kadri as a no. 1 guy

- Dozzer


I thnk Kadri *the dream* will become 1st line center about half way thru the season. my 2 cents!
steve362
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:47 PM ET
I thnk Kadri *the dream* will become 1st line center about half way thru the season. my 2 cents!
- big_dion


Kadri/Bolland/Bozak/McClement
dragus84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.25.2012

Jul 15 @ 3:48 PM ET
what it comes to is this

bozak is pencilled in as the leafs first line centre

now while that could change come training camp its prolly best for all of us to simply accept it.

what i havent seen mentioned much here is maybe nonis sees bozak as his eventual number 2 (which is how he is being paid) with the hope that kadri really comes into his own within a couple seasons to make the whole number one centre debate end once and for all.

in fairness people have suggested it, but i dont agree it will be to start the upcoming season.. i think its at least a year away before truly leaning on kadri as a no. 1 guy

- Dozzer


don't come in her talking all that sense and whatnot.

faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:48 PM ET
Kadri/Bolland/Bozak/McClement
- steve362



Kadri/Bolland/McClement/Bozak

Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:48 PM ET
"Tim Connolly was spotted at the Bieber concert in Buffalo, says he was looking at Condos and realtor gave him free tickets".
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:48 PM ET
I thnk Kadri *the dream* will become 1st line center about half way thru the season. my 2 cents!
- big_dion


entirely possible

all i know is they gave bozak second line centre money for 5 years

that tells me that thats where the management of the leafs eventually see him fitting once everything starts to come together.
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:49 PM ET
Does anyone have a clue as to how RC coaches? Some games you might see Bolland get the most time at C, other times Bozak or Kadri

Match Ups
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:50 PM ET
Does anyone have a clue as to how RC coaches? Some games you might see Bolland get the most time at C, other times Bozak or Kadri

Match Ups

- PinkSock



RC has a particular method to coaching.

He trys to win everygame.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 15 @ 3:50 PM ET
Its all about the Points
- PinkSock


It is when you are the #1 guy getting the most ice time. I expect you to be around the top of your team in scoring and to be a decent defensive guy. a lot to ask, maybe..but winning teams have that, and I want to win
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:50 PM ET
Kadri/Bolland/Bozak/McClement
- steve362


nah.. bolland will be used on the third line 5 on 5 and in a shutdown PK role is my bet

prolly get second PP time.. whereas bozak probably wont see much PP this year.

I think Kadri will slide into bozak;'s spot on the PP

or Kadri's line will be kept in tact for the second PP and Bolland will be used as the net presence on the first one.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 15 @ 3:51 PM ET
in grabo's defense...at least bozak gets to play with legit top 3/6 wingers and has some powerplay time to gather more points.
- big_dion


I agree, I wanted to keep Grab. and ditch Bozak
Jay Uller
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.27.2009

Jul 15 @ 3:51 PM ET
Does anyone have a clue as to how RC coaches? Some games you might see Bolland get the most time at C, other times Bozak or Kadri

Match Ups

- PinkSock


Carlyle is going to (frank)ing love having Bolland. That alone drops our G.A.A. before mentioning Bernier.
steve362
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:51 PM ET
Kadri/Bolland/McClement/Bozak


- faceto27


Kadri/Bolland/McClement/Crosby
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:51 PM ET
Does anyone have a clue as to how RC coaches? Some games you might see Bolland get the most time at C, other times Bozak or Kadri

Match Ups

- PinkSock


this.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:51 PM ET
entirely possible

all i know is they gave bozak second line centre money for 5 years

that tells me that thats where the management of the leafs eventually see him fitting once everything starts to come together.

- Dozzer


yeah it seems that way, 4.2 is a lot for a 3rd line C.
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