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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 15 @ 3:32 PM ET
You guys fail to see. Every year JVR is Flyer, They make playoffs. They trade JVR to Leafs, Leafs make playoffs and flyers are out.. JVR = playoffs.
- Jay Uller


mind = blown

Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 15 @ 3:32 PM ET
We have a winner!!!!!!!
- Fakepartofme


JVR is clutch.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 15 @ 3:32 PM ET
mind = blown


- PatC80


senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 15 @ 3:33 PM ET
Oh and Kostka with more points than Gardiner. In any league this year.
- honesthockey



Close but remember Bozak got them to the playoffs, so we can count those points too

With the leafs last season

Kostka 36 games 8 points
Gardiner 18 games 9 points
TonkaPhaneuf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where'd canucks fans go? -daeth Too busy with the lotto simulator - seagull
Joined: 11.22.2012

Jul 15 @ 3:33 PM ET
Its funny how everyone just rips on Bozak and HH. Yet Nonis had the perfect opportunity to let Bozo go this summer, and he didnt. Maybe he sees something in Bozak that we dont. Maybe Bozak is still improving and could have a good year this year.
Fact is, Nonis took Bozo back instead of pursuing other avenues, and he WILL be on our team next season. I dont think Nonis would do this just for poops and giggles or because he is buddys with Kessel. If he signed Bozak because he is Kessel's buddy, he should be coaching children, not at the NHL level. Because thats how kids would be, let me play with my friend.
I'm ready for the rain to pour down on me now for defending Bozak, i am not a huge Bozak fan, but the guy is on our team and I beleive Nonis to be a smart hockey man, so i will trust he signed Bozak for a reason.
Why dont we all just see how this plays out next season before writing off Bozak completely.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 15 @ 3:33 PM ET
Close but remember Bozak got them to the playoffs, so we can count those points too

With the leafs last season

Kostka 36 games 8 points
Gardiner 18 games 9 points

- senstroll


All this proves is that less is more... As in more games equals less points
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:35 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 1m

Detroit avoids salary arbitration with Brendan Smith. They agree to a 2 year deal. $1.25 mil and $1.275 mil.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 15 @ 3:35 PM ET
Its funny how everyone just rips on Bozak and HH. Yet Nonis had the perfect opportunity to let Bozo go this summer, and he didnt. Maybe he sees something in Bozak that we dont. Maybe Bozak is still improving and could have a good year this year.
Fact is, Nonis took Bozo back instead of pursuing other avenues, and he WILL be on our team next season. I dont think Nonis would do this just for poops and giggles or because he is buddys with Kessel. If he signed Bozak because he is Kessel's buddy, he should be coaching children, not at the NHL level. Because thats how kids would be, let me play with my friend.
I'm ready for the rain to pour down on me now for defending Bozak, i am not a huge Bozak fan, but the guy is on our team and I beleive Nonis to be a smart hockey man, so i will trust he signed Bozak for a reason.
Why dont we all just see how this plays out next season before writing off Bozak completely.

- TonkaPhaneuf


That's the thing, everyones rags on Bozak but he has played for two NHL coaches and both have used him as a #1 C. There must be a reason why other than "well, we have no one else"
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 15 @ 3:35 PM ET
Its funny how everyone just rips on Bozak and HH. Yet Nonis had the perfect opportunity to let Bozo go this summer, and he didnt. Maybe he sees something in Bozak that we dont. Maybe Bozak is still improving and could have a good year this year.
Fact is, Nonis took Bozo back instead of pursuing other avenues, and he WILL be on our team next season. I dont think Nonis would do this just for poops and giggles or because he is buddys with Kessel. If he signed Bozak because he is Kessel's buddy, he should be coaching children, not at the NHL level. Because thats how kids would be, let me play with my friend.
I'm ready for the rain to pour down on me now for defending Bozak, i am not a huge Bozak fan, but the guy is on our team and I beleive Nonis to be a smart hockey man, so i will trust he signed Bozak for a reason.
Why dont we all just see how this plays out next season before writing off Bozak completely.

- TonkaPhaneuf



I dont think anyone would complain if Bozak was anything but the #1 Center.

I have no problem with him otherwise
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:36 PM ET
Its funny how everyone just rips on Bozak and HH. Yet Nonis had the perfect opportunity to let Bozo go this summer, and he didnt. Maybe he sees something in Bozak that we dont. Maybe Bozak is still improving and could have a good year this year.
Fact is, Nonis took Bozo back instead of pursuing other avenues, and he WILL be on our team next season. I dont think Nonis would do this just for poops and giggles or because he is buddys with Kessel. If he signed Bozak because he is Kessel's buddy, he should be coaching children, not at the NHL level. Because thats how kids would be, let me play with my friend.
I'm ready for the rain to pour down on me now for defending Bozak, i am not a huge Bozak fan, but the guy is on our team and I beleive Nonis to be a smart hockey man, so i will trust he signed Bozak for a reason.
Why dont we all just see how this plays out next season before writing off Bozak completely.

- TonkaPhaneuf


are you HH's Bozak?
steve362
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:36 PM ET
lupul - bozak - kessel
jvr - kadri - Clarkson
kulimen- bolland - biggs
McLaren - mclement - orr


- TendyLyfe02


Biggs is still 2 years away IMO
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 15 @ 3:36 PM ET
Its funny how everyone just rips on Bozak and HH. Yet Nonis had the perfect opportunity to let Bozo go this summer, and he didnt. Maybe he sees something in Bozak that we dont. Maybe Bozak is still improving and could have a good year this year.
Fact is, Nonis took Bozo back instead of pursuing other avenues, and he WILL be on our team next season. I dont think Nonis would do this just for poops and giggles or because he is buddys with Kessel. If he signed Bozak because he is Kessel's buddy, he should be coaching children, not at the NHL level. Because thats how kids would be, let me play with my friend.
I'm ready for the rain to pour down on me now for defending Bozak, i am not a huge Bozak fan, but the guy is on our team and I beleive Nonis to be a smart hockey man, so i will trust he signed Bozak for a reason.
Why dont we all just see how this plays out next season before writing off Bozak completely.

- TonkaPhaneuf


Good thing the cap is supposed to raise so it will make his contract look small. Hes overpaid by 700,000K
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:37 PM ET
Its funny how everyone just rips on Bozak and HH. Yet Nonis had the perfect opportunity to let Bozo go this summer, and he didnt. Maybe he sees something in Bozak that we dont. Maybe Bozak is still improving and could have a good year this year.
Fact is, Nonis took Bozo back instead of pursuing other avenues, and he WILL be on our team next season. I dont think Nonis would do this just for poops and giggles or because he is buddys with Kessel. If he signed Bozak because he is Kessel's buddy, he should be coaching children, not at the NHL level. Because thats how kids would be, let me play with my friend.
I'm ready for the rain to pour down on me now for defending Bozak, i am not a huge Bozak fan, but the guy is on our team and I beleive Nonis to be a smart hockey man, so i will trust he signed Bozak for a reason.
Why dont we all just see how this plays out next season before writing off Bozak completely.

- TonkaPhaneuf


You are under the assumption that Nonis DIDN'T try to pursue other FA's.
Perhaps his pursuits failed.
Bozo was the fallback.

He's a number 2 center playing a number 1.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 15 @ 3:37 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 1m

Detroit avoids salary arbitration with Brendan Smith. They agree to a 2 year deal. $1.25 mil and $1.275 mil.

- faceto27


Lidstroms coming out of retirement
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 15 @ 3:38 PM ET
You are under the assumption that Nonis DIDN'T try to pursue other FA's.
Perhaps his pursuits failed.
Bozo was the fallback.

- Fakepartofme


Next summer will be the best summer. Lots of options and BIG named players available. Can't wait
Jay Uller
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.27.2009

Jul 15 @ 3:38 PM ET

- Mapleleafs_91

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 15 @ 3:39 PM ET
You are under the assumption that Nonis DIDN'T try to pursue other FA's.
Perhaps his pursuits failed.
Bozo was the fallback.

- Fakepartofme


Nothing to assume, Nonis said he made the offer to Bozak on July 4th, prior to Free agency starting. Bozak agreed to the deal on July 5th.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:39 PM ET
Next summer will be the best summer. Lots of options and BIG named players available. Can't wait
- Mapleleafs_91

Most big name players dont make it to July 1st.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 15 @ 3:39 PM ET
That's the thing, everyones rags on Bozak but he has played for two NHL coaches and both have used him as a #1 C. There must be a reason why other than "well, we have no one else"
- PatC80


i don't think there is, to be honest.
dragus84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.25.2012

Jul 15 @ 3:39 PM ET
Its funny how everyone just rips on Bozak and HH. Yet Nonis had the perfect opportunity to let Bozo go this summer, and he didnt. Maybe he sees something in Bozak that we dont. Maybe Bozak is still improving and could have a good year this year.
Fact is, Nonis took Bozo back instead of pursuing other avenues, and he WILL be on our team next season. I dont think Nonis would do this just for poops and giggles or because he is buddys with Kessel. If he signed Bozak because he is Kessel's buddy, he should be coaching children, not at the NHL level. Because thats how kids would be, let me play with my friend.
I'm ready for the rain to pour down on me now for defending Bozak, i am not a huge Bozak fan, but the guy is on our team and I beleive Nonis to be a smart hockey man, so i will trust he signed Bozak for a reason.
Why dont we all just see how this plays out next season before writing off Bozak completely.

- TonkaPhaneuf


Not true exactly

I've always said bozak is a serviceable player, won't do anythign spectacular, doesn't really hurt you.

Playing with kessel on line 1 and 1pp he should have more points but that is what it is.

the thing i rip on is a no pointer arguement with circular reasoning that bozak IS the reason the leafs made the playoffs.

that is wrong in so many ways
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 15 @ 3:39 PM ET
Most big name players dont make it to July 1st.
- Fakepartofme


Meh hopefully a couple make it
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:39 PM ET
Nothing to assume, Nonis said he made the offer to Bozak on July 4th, prior to Free agency starting. Bozak agreed to the deal on July 5th.
- PatC80

And nonis could talk to FA's beginning on the 3rd.
He would get a sense of whether they were signing.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 15 @ 3:40 PM ET
Most big name players dont make it to July 1st.
- Fakepartofme


love it when ppl post a list of players who will be UFA in 2 years.... OMGGGG Crosby, Malkin and Toews are all gonna hit the open market!!!
TonkaPhaneuf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where'd canucks fans go? -daeth Too busy with the lotto simulator - seagull
Joined: 11.22.2012

Jul 15 @ 3:40 PM ET
I dont think anyone would complain if Bozak was anything but the #1 Center.

I have no problem with him otherwise

- senstroll


I can understand he isnt the prototypical #1C. Which is also why he doesnt get paid like one (thankfully).
So would folks be happy to have him as a #2C at 4.25? Still seems like a decent cap hit for a #2 guy.




senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 15 @ 3:41 PM ET
i don't think there is, to be honest.
- DoubleDown


I think thats exactly it, no other options.

If Lupul played the full season, Bozak would be tied with Dion for 7th on the team in scoring.


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