I still have a really hard time believing that Nonis coudln't find a taker for Grabovski when teams were so willing to dump money on crappy players like Filpulla and Weiss and Roy. Could've used that second compliance buyout on Liles and made the cap situation a lot nicer.

I think so. It's because of how the system works. Players file for arb and the team can then elect a 1 or 2 yr deal. Gunnarsson and Fraser are UFA's next summer so they elect and get to UFAgency in 1 or 2 years (I assume the Leafs will elect 2 year deals if it goes that far).

Franson has 2 more years to UFAgency so the Leafs would've elected a 1 year deal for him. They are probably discussing a one year and a long term deal with him ...and obviously he's probably trying to force a long term deal.
- The Law

If the player files, isn't it a 1 yr deal and if the team files then isn't it a 2yr deal?

Also, can't they sign long term extensions even after filing for arbitration? They just can't be offersheeted anymore right?

I still have a really hard time believing that Nonis coudln't find a taker for Grabovski when teams were so willing to dump money on crappy players like Filpulla and Weiss and Roy. Could've used that second compliance buyout on Liles and made the cap situation a lot nicer.
- DTF69

well you are not the only one.

I still have a really hard time believing that Nonis coudln't find a taker for Grabovski when teams were so willing to dump money on crappy players like Filpulla and Weiss and Roy. Could've used that second compliance buyout on Liles and made the cap situation a lot nicer.
- DTF69

I do too but he hasn't signed with any team yet. Maybe wants too much money.

I think so. It's because of how the system works. Players file for arb and the team can then elect a 1 or 2 yr deal. Gunnarsson and Fraser are UFA's next summer so they elect and get to UFAgency in 1 or 2 years (I assume the Leafs will elect 2 year deals if it goes that far).

Franson has 2 more years to UFAgency so the Leafs would've elected a 1 year deal for him. They are probably discussing a one year and a long term deal with him ...and obviously he's probably trying to force a long term deal.
- The Law

Which makes sense, he says he enjoys playing for Carlyle, can't see him leaving in a year or two

well you are not the only one.
- big_dion

crazy to think that the leafs were offered a 1st at the deadline before he signed his deal.. if you believe what was said and instead ended up with nothing.

Use Subban as the barometer. Cody signs for less or he'll be watching the games from home
- faceto27

or you just dont call someone a crackhead based on personal assumptions. he put up numvers equalling over 50 in 82 games. justify sitting him...

crazy to think that the leafs were offered a 1st at the deadline before he signed his deal.. if you believe what was said and instead ended up with nothing.
- senstroll

I still think that was Burke trying to stir the pot... Also, said he was offered a first for MacArthur too

or you just dont call someone a crackhead based on personal assumptions. he put up numvers equalling over 50 in 82 games. justify sitting him...
- Jay Uller

good offensive defensemen......... lousy in his own end.

Use Subban as the barometer. Cody signs for less or he'll be watching the games from home
- faceto27

He's a UFa in 2 years so the Leafs don't want to give him a 2 year deal. Franson wants a multi year deal but the Leafs don't have the Cap room to give it to him. Leafs are probably angling really hard for a 1 year deal and Franson doesn't want that. Wouldn't be surprised to see this negotiation go into training camp and beyond.

If the player files, isn't it a 1 yr deal and if the team files then isn't it a 2yr deal?

Also, can't they sign long term extensions even after filing for arbitration? They just can't be offersheeted anymore right?
- DTF69

I read something the other day that said whichever side chooses arbitration the other side gets to pick whether it's 1 or 2 years.

well you are not the only one.
- big_dion

NO SH!T ! He should have been able to get at least a 1st round pick !

Because Grabovski signed a deal with an NHL club so quickly after getting bought out ?

or you just dont call someone a crackhead based on personal assumptions. he put up numvers equalling over 50 in 82 games. justify sitting him...
- Jay Uller

Except that it wasn't 82 games.

I do too but he hasn't signed with any team yet. Maybe wants too much money.
- mmold

Lots of pretty good players still haven't signed yet too which is strange.

Brunner, Grabovski, Jagr, Boyes, Prospal, Penner, Gilbert, Whitney, Lydman, Larose...

Probably see another bit of action once arbitration is wrapping up I guess.

crazy to think that the leafs were offered a 1st at the deadline before he signed his deal.. if you believe what was said and instead ended up with nothing.
- senstroll

It's the reality of the Cap world. Young players and players on good contracts are worth a lot. The moment they sign a deal (even at a fair price) their value drops like an anchor. Grabo at 3 or 4 is gold .....Grabo at 5.5 is poop.

For all the bs about Seguin and his attitude I have to believe the trade had more to do with the fact that he was about to become a 5.75/yr player.

Except that it wasn't 82 games.
- Leeman4Gilmour

That was the first legitimate shot at good minutes thus far in his NHL career, I see it being fairly likely that the upwad trend continues. as for bad in his own end, his positioning needs to be worked on, his first pass ability is one of the best on the team

I still think that was Burke trying to stir the pot... Also, said he was offered a first for MacArthur too
- PatC80

Well Grab at that point was a 50 point player, as a deadline pickup easily worth a late first.

crazy to think that the leafs were offered a 1st at the deadline before he signed his deal.. if you believe what was said and instead ended up with nothing.
- senstroll

You honestly believe that?

You honestly believe that?
- honesthockey

well he did write "if you believe that" right in his post...

also, as stated he was a 50 pt guy at the time

You honestly believe that?
- honesthockey

I dont think its that hard to imagine a late first round pick offered for a 50 point rental player

well he did write "if you believe that" right in his post...

also, as stated he was a 50 pt guy at the time
- dragus84

So was Matt Stajan. Doesn't make them good players.

So was Matt Stajan. Doesn't make them good players.
- honesthockey

funny how you always pick what u want from a post to argue.

he said "IF YOU BELIEVE IT"

So was Matt Stajan. Doesn't make them good players.
- honesthockey

you just like to make poop up to stir the pot.

I still have a really hard time believing that Nonis coudln't find a taker for Grabovski when teams were so willing to dump money on crappy players like Filpulla and Weiss and Roy. Could've used that second compliance buyout on Liles and made the cap situation a lot nicer.
- DTF69

There's something keeping teams away from him though... His illness maybe?

There's something keeping teams away from him though... His illness maybe?
- Feeling Glucky?

That. Or his salary demands.