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Rawdog9755
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jul 15 @ 3:04 PM ET
We still haven't signed a goal tending coach have we?
- dbell646

Saw a few days ago that the Blues hired the retired Ty Conklin to be their new goalie development coach. I wonder if the Pens kicked the tires on him since he is already familiar with Fleury....
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 15 @ 3:14 PM ET
Saw a few days ago that the Blues hired the retired Ty Conklin to be their new goalie development coach. I wonder if the Pens kicked the tires on him since he is already familiar with Fleury....
- Rawdog9755


Tough to say, there has been literally nothing reported on that vacancy in Pittsburgh.
quinnjj
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.05.2012

Jul 15 @ 3:50 PM ET
When are the Penguins going to trade a defenseman?
quinnjj
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.05.2012

Jul 15 @ 3:51 PM ET
When are the Penguins going to trade a defenseman?
quinnjj
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.05.2012

Jul 15 @ 4:00 PM ET
I could see Jokinen at times bumping up with the Malkin line. I think he could do some similar things that Fedotenko used to do, except Jokinen has more skill.
- Ryan_Wilson


Jokinen will be Malkin's line mate next year.
Bennett will be on the third line.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 15 @ 4:23 PM ET
When are the Penguins going to trade a defenseman?
- quinnjj


Things will get interesting around training camp time when teams around the league are forced into making some interesting moves with their rosters.
Rawdog9755
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jul 15 @ 4:32 PM ET
Tough to say, there has been literally nothing reported on that vacancy in Pittsburgh.
- Ryan_Wilson

One would think that since they seem like they are sticking with Fleury for another year that they would get in gear regarding hiring a new goalie coach so that Fleury can spend the most amount of time possible with that individual prior to the start of the season. If Kadar can help Malkin in the offseason, then the goalie coach needs to be spending time with Fleury to see if the ship can be righted prior to next season.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jul 15 @ 7:54 PM ET
One would think that since they seem like they are sticking with Fleury for another year that they would get in gear regarding hiring a new goalie coach so that Fleury can spend the most amount of time possible with that individual prior to the start of the season. If Kadar can help Malkin in the offseason, then the goalie coach needs to be spending time with Fleury to see if the ship can be righted prior to next season.
- Rawdog9755


Maybe they are still trying to find one with a psychology degree.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jul 15 @ 8:15 PM ET
Maybe they are still trying to find one with a psychology degree.
- rival22


I'll do it
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jul 15 @ 8:25 PM ET
Gunner, thanks for the info.

I see your point on MAF. It's solid and holds water. I think it was tough for the players to gel quickly and for coaches to figure out how to make it work. Plus Crosby was hurt again and had to be reinserted to the lineup AFTER the playoffs started.

That said, Disco has a style and a system. If you are playing a chess match there is a lot that goes into what you do on the ice. "I am not a great coach, yet", I heard Disco say last year. Well that's true, Disco. And I am not a great one either. If he finds a way to get beyond his limitations ad realize you need to play ANY style and be successful he will be a great coach. He just is not there yet. Good hockey decisions are based on assessing a wide variety of assets, situations and making appropriate changes. Disco's ability to make the right decision in THAT moment is all I am calling into question.

In the ebb and flow of a season and most importantly in the post season one cannot wish the best scenario to happen. It takes courage and changing your mind when you are wrong. Disco is a tad too slow to admit when something needs to change. If it ain't working, it ain't working.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 15 @ 9:18 PM ET
Gunner, thanks for the info.

I see your point on MAF. It's solid and holds water. I think it was tough for the players to gel quickly and for coaches to figure out how to make it work. Plus Crosby was hurt again and had to be reinserted to the lineup AFTER the playoffs started.

That said, Disco has a style and a system. If you are playing a chess match there is a lot that goes into what you do on the ice. "I am not a great coach, yet", I heard Disco say last year. Well that's true, Disco. And I am not a great one either. If he finds a way to get beyond his limitations ad realize you need to play ANY style and be successful he will be a great coach. He just is not there yet. Good hockey decisions are based on assessing a wide variety of assets, situations and making appropriate changes. Disco's ability to make the right decision in THAT moment is all I am calling into question.

In the ebb and flow of a season and most importantly in the post season one cannot wish the best scenario to happen. It takes courage and changing your mind when you are wrong. Disco is a tad too slow to admit when something needs to change. If it ain't working, it ain't working.

- powerhouse


He certainly could do some things different but in my opinion there isn't a coach you couldn't say that about.

Coaching is a career long process of introspection. Learning on the job never ends.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 15 @ 10:08 PM ET
He certainly could do some things different but in my opinion there isn't a coach you couldn't say that about.

Coaching is a career long process of introspection. Learning on the job never ends.

- Ryan_Wilson

I won't throw rocks at Dan nor claim he's a bad coach overall BUT he's f'n stubborn and is not always ready for a different view from his beliefs. He needs to adjust better. He blew Iginla's time with the Pens, in parts.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 15 @ 10:11 PM ET
I won't throw rocks at Dan nor claim he's a bad coach overall BUT he's f'n stubborn and is not always ready for a different view from his beliefs. He needs to adjust better. He blew Iginla's time with the Pens, in parts.
- Orpik44


The Penguins did adjust in the Bruins series after Game 2. The results from a defensive standpoint were night and day. Problem is when you are in the Eastern Conference Finals you don't have wiggle room once being down 0-2.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 15 @ 10:32 PM ET
The Penguins did adjust in the Bruins series after Game 2. The results from a defensive standpoint were night and day. Problem is when you are in the Eastern Conference Finals you don't have wiggle room once being down 0-2.
- Ryan_Wilson

I did think the outcome of the series was a lot closer than what the 4-0 series showed. My biggest problem with Danny boy is the line shuffling and not playing some of our players up to their strenghts. I'm sorry but a future hall of famer should be used better than how he was used. I like our team and our chances for the next few years anyway
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 15 @ 10:33 PM ET
I did think the outcome of the series was a lot closer than what the 4-0 series showed. My biggest problem with Danny boy is the line shuffling and not playing some of our players up to their strenghts. I'm sorry but a future hall of famer should be used better than how he was used. I like our team and our chances for the next few years anyway
- Orpik44


He likes right wing better but that had nothing to do with his fading ability at winning puck battles in tight areas.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jul 15 @ 10:50 PM ET
He likes right wing better but that had nothing to do with his fading ability at winning puck battles in tight areas.
- Ryan_Wilson

Yeah I understand what you're saying but it's hard to understand why Iginla didn't get a chance to play with Crosby. Not even for a game. Why take iggy's shot from the left circle on the PP? Dupuis can play LW too.. mind boggling that's all. Nobody is perfect.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 15 @ 11:04 PM ET
Yeah I understand what you're saying but it's hard to understand why Iginla didn't get a chance to play with Crosby. Not even for a game. Why take iggy's shot from the left circle on the PP? Dupuis can play LW too.. mind boggling that's all. Nobody is perfect.
- Orpik44


I think the most deserved criticism Bylsma deserves regarding Iginla is the lack of power play time Iginla received with the first unit.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 15 @ 11:40 PM ET
I think the most deserved criticism Bylsma deserves regarding Iginla is the lack of power play time Iginla received with the first unit.
- Ryan_Wilson


I agree. His one timer cant be matched by anyone on the team. A few times he just blasted it by everyone. Letang has a crappy one timer, and Malkin needs to be set up perfectly. Iginla has a huge strike zone to be set up. I would think someone who has played the game as long and well as him can switch wing easily. Perhaps Malkin is too difficult for an older player. The back and forth rushes can take alot out of a vet.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:55 AM ET
He certainly could do some things different but in my opinion there isn't a coach you couldn't say that about.

Coaching is a career long process of introspection. Learning on the job never ends.

- Ryan_Wilson


Fixing problems is clever. Preventing problems beforehand is genius. Disco is so so at fixing and not a great preventer at all. He just seems a bit slow and stubborn. It all looks easier in hindsight and from TV or the stands, still he could have someone in the stands sending down info and analyze on the fly.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jul 16 @ 9:59 AM ET
I agree. His one timer cant be matched by anyone on the team. A few times he just blasted it by everyone. Letang has a crappy one timer, and Malkin needs to be set up perfectly. Iginla has a huge strike zone to be set up. I would think someone who has played the game as long and well as him can switch wing easily. Perhaps Malkin is too difficult for an older player. The back and forth rushes can take alot out of a vet.
- sammy87


As bad as Letang's one timer is (accuracy), his wrist shot is amazing. You would think by now he would find a way to get it off. Martin's is not nearly as potent and yet when it gets on net it creates a lot of problems for the defense.
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