untrue. we have.... three... ish...
once you get to smith and butler.."good" becomes inaccurate.

as much people who love Brodie...
our best two are still Wideman and Gio. They are both solid defensively who have offensive upside and play the game smart.
- j.henderson

Wideman? really? uhhh....OK.

No not every team has a #1 dman. The teams that have them are Boston (Chara), Chicago (Keith), LA (Doughty), Minnesota (Suter), Montreal (PK), Nashville (Weber), Ottawa (Karlsson), Pittsburgh (Letang), St Louis (Pietrangelo), Vancouver (Hamhuis), and Winnipeg (I do consider big buff to be this). So by my standards that's 11, if you really want to be loose with the term, maybe 14 true #1 dmen in the whole league. That doesn't count future #1, which there are also a few of. Teams that have just misses who are good #2 dmen are Anaheim (Beauchemin), Calgary (Wideman), Chicago (Seabrook), Columbus (Johnson), Dallas (Gonchar), Detroit (Kronwall), Montreal (Markov), NY Rangers (Girardi), Philadelphia (Timonen), Phoenix (Yandle), San Jose (Boyle), St Louis (Bouwmeester), Tampa Bay (Hedman), Toronto (Phaneuf), Vancouver (Edler), Washington (Alzner, Carlsson), Winnipeg (Bogosian).
- JAKEw1234

Hamhuis and Wideman??? Even Canuckleheads would tell you Edler is better. Flames fans would tell you Giordano is better.

Hamhuis and Wideman??? Even Canuckleheads would tell you Edler is better. Flames fans would tell you Giordano is better.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Eh cut it however you want Wideman is still an all star dman and Hamhuis is still Vancouvers #1 dman. Edler is close to it, real close. I just don't think he'd be able to lead a teams D core, but he is an awesome compliment to a true #1.

He's without a doubt a 6 million/yr defenseman.
- quinnjj

He's just one of those guys, ya know? I don't think he is worth it but plenty of people do. I just hope its not my team that gives him the big contract but it also wouldn't surprise me at all if the did. I mean they did just sign Streit to that wonderful contract sooooo who knows.

Np, and hey, you get free food when you go there.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

YES FREEEEEE SAMPLES!!!! Just go there aroiund lunch time & there's your lunch

He's just one of those guys, ya know? I don't think he is worth it but plenty of people do. I just hope its not my team that gives him the big contract but it also wouldn't surprise me at all if the did. I mean they did just sign Streit to that wonderful contract sooooo who knows.
- Marshalle

True... compared to Streit, Phaneuf is a (frank)ing bargain!

YES FREEEEEE SAMPLES!!!! Just go there aroiund lunch time & there's your lunch
- GCHonda

And if you don't get enough, the $1.50 hotdog with soda should suffice

Eh cut it however you want Wideman is still an all star dman and Hamhuis is still Vancouvers #1 dman. Edler is close to it, real close. I just don't think he'd be able to lead a teams D core, but he is an awesome compliment to a true #1.
- JAKEw1234

I watch Calgary a lot and hell no. Wideman an all-star?? Wtf? Gio is easily better. As is Edler.

So confused right now...

True... compared to Streit, Phaneuf is a (frank)ing bargain!
- lumlums

It would be better if he had 3 or 4 years left on his deal. That would be some cost certainty. As it is the price is going up at the end of the year and it could get ugly.

I'm sorry
- lumlums

Talkin poop about Calgary? You are crazy. Beautiful city to live in.Weather is better in Toronto.

NJ and Leaf Trade right here

To NJ
Phaneuf
Colbourne
Finn
2nd Round Pick
Franson

To Leafs
Zajac
Volchenkov

Maybe?

NJ and Leaf Trade right here

To NJ
Phaneuf
Colbourne
Finn
2nd Round Pick
Franson

To Leafs
Zajac
Volchenkov

Maybe?
- Suckitcrosby

WTF are you smoking????

Mike Green had 26P in 35GP. Played 25 mins a night.

Marc Staal played 24:27 coming off an injury in NYR.

Yea. They're top D men in the league
- TheNugeIsHuge

Marc Staal will never be a #1. He has no offensive talent. Green was bad defensively for 2 years prior to this season, and still isn't as good as Dion is defensively.

Talkin poop about Calgary? You are crazy. Beautiful city to live in.Weather is better in Toronto.
- 50 Mission Cap

I really don't like it... has a weird feel to me. I can't explain it, it just doesn't feel like a place that I could make home...

Marc Staal will never be a #1. He has no offensive talent. Green was bad defensively for 2 years prior to this season, and still isn't as good as Dion is defensively.
- RogerRoeper

A #1 D man, to me, is a guy that can play 25 mins a night successfully. jay bouwmeester is a #1D man. Marc Staal is a #1 D man

NJ and Leaf Trade right here

To NJ
Phaneuf
Colbourne
Finn
2nd Round Pick
Franson

To Leafs
Zajac
Volchenkov

Maybe?
- Suckitcrosby

Are u a NJ fan in disguise? As a Leaf fan, NO FUKKEN WAY!!!!!

Wideman? really? uhhh....OK.
- sfischer

you wouldn't describe him as good? I never said great.. or grand.. or... mystifying..

I said good. He's a good defenceman.

I watch Calgary a lot and hell no. Wideman an all-star?? Wtf? Gio is easily better. As is Edler.

So confused right now...
- TheTaoOfSemenko

It was tough to tell last year. Roles were flopped around a bunch. With JBO Wideman and Brodie rushing the puck.. Gio rarely took those opportunities. He turned into more of a defensive minded guy. Later on in the year he turned over the puck a bunch too.

Still has all the skills, but Gio and Wideman are pretty close. Both played pretty steady.

And yeah... Wideman isn't an All Star. He put up points at the start of the year.. but trailed off once JBO and Brodie took more of a role.

WTF are you smoking????
- lumlums

Something fierce bro. LOL

WTF are you smoking????
- lumlums

Something fierce bro. LOL

WTF are you smoking????
- lumlums

Something fierce bro. LOL

Something fierce bro. LOL
- Suckitcrosby

Apparently

Something fierce bro. LOL
- Suckitcrosby

i must be trippin cause i'm seein triple

i must be trippin cause i'm seein triple
- Marshalle

How many beers have u had?????

How many beers have u had?????
- GCHonda

trippin not spinnin koff koff