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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:45 PM ET
hall in the top 6 is generous. They played Read more than him at the WCs
- TheNugeIsHuge

That's just cause Read has a better two-way game and Ruff got a hardon for him.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 14 @ 4:46 PM ET
duchene has a shot, but he absolutely is NOT a lock.
neither is hall.
lecavalier has NO chance
brad Richards has NO chance (this aint 06)
pominville has NO chance and would play for the yanks before us anyway.
Bergeron is a lock
where's benn?
marleau is getting long in the tooth, same goes for joe.
no way eberle is ahead of couture at present.
and yeah, couture is unequivocally better than a bunch of those names u mentioned

u named a lot of older players who wont be around this time.

- hugefemale dog77

Hall is currently the highest scoring natural LW Canadian that has speed to burn. Unless he blows a tire next year, I'd say he's a lock to at least grab a 3rrd/4th line forechecking role.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 14 @ 4:46 PM ET
Better than Stamkos? He scored virtually every game.
- TomKlassen


Yeah but look at their ice times. Stamkos was out for almost the whole two minutes of EVERY PP. Duchene had to create his points 5 on 5 for the most part. Did you see him play? Duchene was energy for the team every line he was out there. He really showed what he could do. The commentators talked about his play what seemed like non stop. Stamkos is a better player but Duchene was better in that tournament. If you match ice times and PP time you will see how much better Duchene did.
TomKlassen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:47 PM ET
Stamkos - Giroux - ________
Hall - Crosby - Duchene
Fill in the blank

- JAKEw1234

Lol Giroux over Crosby? Have you ever heard of Sidney Crosby? He's a lock for the FIRST line centre job, no question.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 14 @ 4:48 PM ET
theyre both going to make it
- hugefemale dog77

Getzlaf and Perry you mean? If so, I vehemently disagree and would argue their inclusion.
TomKlassen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:50 PM ET
Getzlaf and Perry you mean? If so, I vehemently disagree and would argue their inclusion.
- MaximumBone

I'd be pretty shocked if they didn't make it.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:50 PM ET
stamkos Crosby Giroux
tavares getzlaf perry
couture, toews e. stall
hall, Bergeron, Duchene

benn
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:50 PM ET
Getzlaf and Perry you mean? If so, I vehemently disagree and would argue their inclusion.
- MaximumBone

yeah.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:51 PM ET
Crosby, Stamkos, Giroux, Bergeron, Hall, Duchene, toews, E Staal, Getzlaf, tavares, Couture, Neal, Perry are my 13 forwards.

Weber, keith, subban, hamuis, doughty, pietrangelo, M Staal, Girardi, Letang, Seabrook.
Pick 7

Goaltending is a sh*t storm.

Reimer, Crawford, Dubey, Lu, Price, Smith. Whoever has the best year out of them is my starter
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jul 14 @ 4:51 PM ET
Stamkos - Giroux - ________
Hall - Crosby - Duchene
Fill in the blank

- JAKEw1234


The first line is whichever line Crosby is on. Plain and simple.


HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:52 PM ET
I'd be pretty shocked if they didn't make it.
- TomKlassen

theyre certainly not in the Crosby, stamkos without a doubt category. but barring a total meltdown in the first half of the season next year, they are as close to locks as it gets.
TomKlassen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:52 PM ET
stamkos Crosby Giroux
couture getzlaf perry
benn, toews e. stall
hall, Bergeron, Duchene

nash

- hugefemale dog77

Looks good to me except I doubt Giroux and Crosby will play on the same line.

Also, are we forgetting JT? Surely he has to be on the radar.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jul 14 @ 4:52 PM ET
Crosby, Stamkos, Giroux, Bergeron, Hall, Duchene, toews, E Staal, Getzlaf, tavares, Couture, Neal, Perry are my 13 forwards.

Weber, keith, subban, hamuis, doughty, pietrangelo, M Staal, Girardi, Letang, Seabrook.
Pick 7

Goaltending is a sh*t storm.

Reimer, Crawford, Dubey, Lu, Price, Smith. Whoever has the best year out of them is my starter

- TheNugeIsHuge


Cam Ward?

TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:52 PM ET
That's just cause Read has a better two-way game and Ruff got a hardon for him.
- JAKEw1234


well that's just not true. Hall played toughest comp dominating possession. Read played against 2nd lines and did reasonably well.

Hall just coughed it up too much. While playing like 10 mins a game he still was getting like 8-9 shots
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:52 PM ET
[quote=TomKlassen]
Dude this is the Canadian national team the lines are 1a, 1b, 1c, and 1d. I was just making sure Grioux was with Stamkos cause they have good chemistry, play together often internationally, and are pretty much a lock to be on the same line. But if I really hurt your feelings that much

Hall - CROSBY - ?
Stamkos - Giroux - ?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:53 PM ET
Cam Ward?
- Leafs43


. Been near average the past few year, but he should be added to the list
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:53 PM ET
so many great Canadian players. I forgot Tavares!!
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:54 PM ET
well that's just not true. Hall played toughest comp dominating possession. Read played against 2nd lines and did reasonably well.

Hall just coughed it up too much. While playing like 10 mins a game he still was getting like 8-9 shots

- TheNugeIsHuge

Scoring-wise or defense-wise? Read is a good defensive forward, that's all I mean. Hall is by a long, long shot the better player. There's gotta be some reason Ruff played him above Hall.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:54 PM ET
Dude this is the Canadian national team the lines are 1a, 1b, 1c, and 1d. I was just making sure Grioux was with Stamkos cause they have good chemistry, play together often internationally, and are pretty much a lock to be on the same line. But if I really hurt your feelings that much

Hall - CROSBY - ?
Stamkos - Giroux - ?

- JAKEw1234

maybe put Tavares in the middle of stamkos and Giroux.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 14 @ 4:54 PM ET
duchene has a shot, but he absolutely is NOT a lock.
neither is hall.
lecavalier has NO chance
brad Richards has NO chance (this aint 06)
pominville has NO chance and would play for the yanks before us anyway.
Bergeron is a lock
where's benn?
marleau is getting long in the tooth, same goes for joe.
no way eberle is ahead of couture at present.
and yeah, couture is unequivocally better than a bunch of those names u mentioned

u named a lot of older players who wont be around this time.

- hugefemale dog77


I missed Ben. Eberle and Duchene clicked to well to miss that. I agree some players are getting older but St.Louis got the most points last year and he is 38. Older is not a terrible thing. Logan is arguable equal to a bunch of those players is what I said. Yes he might be arguably better but I didn't want to get into that as it takes away from the point. We can fill 12 spots easy with players better than him and still have players missed that are better than him.

As for Duchene being a lock, I will put money on that. As for Hall in the top 6, it doesn't matter. Canada always rolls 4 lines anyways. Put him anywhere you want and it won't make a difference. That is why we lost the worlds this year. We had the deepest bench but we played one line most of the game. If they would do short changes and roll through all 4, that is where the advantage is. Plus Ruff had biases against players. He was a terrible international coach.

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 14 @ 4:55 PM ET
Looks good to me except I doubt Giroux and Crosby will play on the same line.

Also, are we forgetting JT? Surely he has to be on the radar.

- TomKlassen

I edited. he's a for sure almost. so many guys to choose from, he slipped my mind
TomKlassen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:56 PM ET
Dude this is the Canadian national team the lines are 1a, 1b, 1c, and 1d. I was just making sure Grioux was with Stamkos cause they have good chemistry, play together often internationally, and are pretty much a lock to be on the same line. But if I really hurt your feelings that much

Hall - CROSBY - ?
Stamkos - Giroux - ?

- JAKEw1234

I'm a die hard Oilers fan but I couldn't see Hall being put on the same line as Crosby despite being Canada's best left winger. That being said, Hall would dominate with Crosby.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 14 @ 4:56 PM ET
I'd be pretty shocked if they didn't make it.
- TomKlassen

Perry's a slow skater and his skill set as a mucker isn't nearly as useful here as in 2010 here. He's still got a nasty shot and great hands, but if you want to compete on Int'l ice you have to be able to skate with the best of them. Getzlaf is more likely, but again, you've got a similar sized player that skates better and is arguably a better playmaker in Spezza so I'd pick him over Getzlaf as well.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 14 @ 4:57 PM ET
stamkos Crosby Giroux
tavares getzlaf perry
couture, toews e. stall
hall, Bergeron, Duchene

benn

- hugefemale dog77


I forgot Tavares too.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 14 @ 4:57 PM ET
Crosby, Stamkos, Giroux, Bergeron, Hall, Duchene, toews, E Staal, Getzlaf, tavares, Couture, Neal, Perry are my 13 forwards.

Weber, keith, subban, hamuis, doughty, pietrangelo, M Staal, Girardi, Letang, Seabrook.
Pick 7

Goaltending is a sh*t storm.

Reimer, Crawford, Dubey, Lu, Price, Smith. Whoever has the best year out of them is my starter

- TheNugeIsHuge

I pick Weber, Subban, Keith, Pietrangelo, SUTER, and surprise choice here, Francois Beauchemin. Like someone in here pointed out earlier, he's really picked up his game in Anaheim and was 4th in Norris voting this year. He's a really good Dman.
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