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Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 14 @ 12:36 PM ET
K whatever so is everyone else lol and a have reasons why I would have all those played over Gagner
- 6Karlsson5

"having a reason" doesn't disqualify you from being a homer necessarily. Maybe I'd rather have Schultz than Erik Karlsson because I already have a Schultz jersey
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 14 @ 12:36 PM ET
What would your price be?
- JAKEw1234

B.Schenn, Coutourier, Simmonds. Might be a ridiculous ask but Hall is going nowhere without an overpayment like that.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 14 @ 12:38 PM ET
K whatever so is everyone else lol and a have reasons why I would have all those played over Gagner
- 6Karlsson5

Why would you have Turris over Gagner? Cause he plays for the Senators? I can sort of understand Zibby, but as of yet I don't see any reason to believe he'll ever be better than Gagner, considering Gagner is still only 23 and hasn't realized his potential yet. I bet you'd rather have Turris than Simmonds, too
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 14 @ 12:39 PM ET
K whatever so is everyone else lol and a have reasons why I would have all those played over Gagner
- 6Karlsson5


turris never surpassed 30 points in a season. gagner never surpassed 50 points in a season. both would have probably surpassed those point marks if it wasn't a shorten season, but even though gagner has a higher point per game average than turris. 0.79 vs 0.6. to me, zibby could even make turris expendable within the next year or two. all three players are young and can still have more potential heading into their prime.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 14 @ 12:40 PM ET
B.Schenn, Coutourier, Simmonds. Might be a ridiculous ask but Hall is going nowhere without an overpayment like that.
- Ihatebrianburke

Ya I see what you mean. That's the kind of package that can get you Weber, but Hall is a 1st overall pick that will be one of the top scorers in the league soon, so I can see why you'd ask for that.
quinnjj
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.05.2012

Jul 14 @ 12:41 PM ET
Fixed. Not a bad deal but regardless of how godlike Pittsburgh thinks Letang is, it's a huge hit to take on.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Has to be Klefbom
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 14 @ 12:41 PM ET
Why would you have Turris over Gagner? Cause he plays for the Senators? I can sort of understand Zibby, but as of yet I don't see any reason to believe he'll ever be better than Gagner, considering Gagner is still only 23 and hasn't realized his potential yet. I bet you'd rather have Turris than Simmonds, too
- JAKEw1234

He can do the Zibby over Gagner thing based on potential, but I better not catching him slagging Oilers fans for liking their young stars potential. I'll keep my eyes peeled
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 14 @ 12:45 PM ET
I read today that the oil would like to get Dion Phaneuf? What would a deal look like?

Gagner and a pick?

- Bluechip23

why the (frank) would we want gagner
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 14 @ 12:47 PM ET
why the (frank) would we want gagner
- DarcyTucker16

Because you have no good centers?
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 14 @ 12:48 PM ET
why the (frank) would we want gagner
- DarcyTucker16


why the hell would edm want to give up gagner and a 1st?
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 14 @ 12:48 PM ET
why the (frank) would we want gagner
- DarcyTucker16

Hed be your #1 center
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 14 @ 12:51 PM ET
Hed be your #1 center
- Ihatebrianburke

here come 6 more pages
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 14 @ 12:51 PM ET
Edmonton gets:
Letang
Orpik
Niskanen

Pittsburgh gets:
Petry
Smid
C. Hamilton
Ryan Jones
Klefbom

- quinnjj



Man. That's fugly....
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 14 @ 12:55 PM ET
Hed be your #1 center
- Ihatebrianburke

You just had to say that didn't you?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 14 @ 12:55 PM ET
Thanks for the diagnosis. We'll need some quiet reflection time to process your truth bombs.

Run along.

- Morris


Truth bomb!

LOL
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 14 @ 12:55 PM ET
Because you have no good centers?
- JAKEw1234

Thanks. Prepare for the coming Bozak vs. Gagner debate.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 14 @ 12:59 PM ET
What would your price be?
- JAKEw1234


The price for Hall would be something everyone would consider ridiculous.

This is because people don't understand supply and demand.

Where do you go to replace a Taylor Hall?

Answer:
You finish last, in a year where there even IS a Taylor Hall calibre player, then you win the lottery, then you wait 3-4 years until he develops.

In other words, he is worth a ridiculous amount on the trade market.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 14 @ 1:04 PM ET
Thanks. Prepare for the coming Bozak vs. Gagner debate.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

It's not really a debate if the Leafs' fans only point is that he's good because he plays for us and we're the best team in the league
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 14 @ 1:04 PM ET
"having a reason" doesn't disqualify you from being a homer necessarily. Maybe I'd rather have Schultz than Erik Karlsson because I already have a Schultz jersey
- Morris


but you have stained it, around the belly button area
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 14 @ 1:05 PM ET
Thanks. Prepare for the coming Bozak vs. Gagner debate.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

I'll go call honesthockey.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
The price for Hall would be something everyone would consider ridiculous.

This is because people don't understand supply and demand.

Where do you go to replace a Taylor Hall?

Answer:
You finish last, in a year where there even IS a Taylor Hall calibre player, then you win the lottery, then you wait 3-4 years until he develops.

In other words, he is worth a ridiculous amount on the trade market.

- Aetherial

Or you just give Yakupov a bigger role... You guys have tons of potential 1st line players, I don't know why you act as if you must keep all of them and trade your lesser assets to get continually more 1st line players. You just want a team full of 1st line players
Marshalle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jul 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
Doesn't fill any need of ours...
- JAKEw1234

i like gunnarson but that would add payroll without making our team any better.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
turris never surpassed 30 points in a season. gagner never surpassed 50 points in a season. both would have probably surpassed those point marks if it wasn't a shorten season, but even though gagner has a higher point per game average than turris. 0.79 vs 0.6. to me, zibby could even make turris expendable within the next year or two. all three players are young and can still have more potential heading into their prime.
- deks1


I never knew until this year how much Ottawa fans over value their players. I think as Oiler fans we over value our 5 or at least know their future worth. However we under value everyone else. Smid, gagner, Hemsky... all under valued by most people on here. People didn't think we would get something for Horcoff and we ended up getting a guy that might eventually make the team. I think Hemsky is going to bring us a prospect and a pick or be instrumental in a larger trade.

However I am not against keeping him either. Lets face it, the Oil are not addressing our third line (Jones and Eager are MAYBYs in my book), why not keep Hemsky if there is nothing out there. Calling a spade a spade, our team isn't the most injury prone. With the exception of guys like Smid and Gagner, whom everyone wants to send out on the next plane.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
He can do the Zibby over Gagner thing based on potential, but I better not catching him slagging Oilers fans for liking their young stars potential. I'll keep my eyes peeled
- Morris


Wait until Maclean's act wears thin in Ottawa.

I think we are going to see a fall-back this year for the Sens.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jul 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
but you have stained it, around the belly button area
- Aetherial

If those stains were permanent i'd be in trouble
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