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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 15 @ 6:40 PM ET
Go find another canucks blogger/writer then.
Theres absolutely no point in reading Ian's blogs if you hate them with a passion.
I suggest you read more of garth and cloutier if you want more quality writing you wanker.

- RF_4eva

I'm sure he'll have a holiday from commenting about any blogger.
RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Fosco's son, BC
Joined: 09.11.2012

Jul 15 @ 6:43 PM ET
I'm sure he'll have a holiday from commenting about any blogger.
- A_SteamingLombardi

He needs to post about having Ian's underwear or else he is not qualifyed for "holidays"
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jul 15 @ 6:48 PM ET
i could care less....

Ian needs to think before he writes. just writing puff pieces praising Gillis and everything canuck related just doesnt cut it. A teams blogger should discuss the state of the team....rationally and accurately, not his wishful fantasies

- joeyp


I've seen Ian criticize Gillis before. And I wouldn't call this a "puff piece" either. I've seen more articles that I would consider "puff pieces" come out of the Sun, the Province, and CDC than I have Ian.

If you want rational and accurate, go read the mainstream media....oh wait, never mind...

Ian writes for a blog site that's purpose is to generate hits, and Ian does a good job of that.

Some of us appreciate that this format allows him write without adhering to the conventions and "politically correct" norms that one has to when writing for the mainstream media.

Whether you agree with his opinion or not, Ian, more often than not, provokes conversation on this board, both good and bad.

Again, if you are looking for something else, maybe you should look elsewhere...

I'll take a shot in the dark and guess that the regular posters here can certainly do without your commentary.

Furthermore, your original post, which called Ian the "village idiot" lacked both the punctuation and proper grammar that I would expect from a post that's main intent is to criticize another's intelligence...

I guess we can add hypocrite to the list...
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Jul 15 @ 6:48 PM ET
I am sorry my post comes in in the 300s post range because most regs will miss it. but here's my question why can't Lou just retire? Or even in two or three years just retire? If all you are going going to lose is 300000 give take against the cap but gain salary back then why has everyone been so upset about this contract?

Lou could even leave now... play for Modo for equal momey and return.

Looks to me that this Cba has no teeth.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jul 15 @ 6:52 PM ET
With MG as our gm he will probably sign him for 1 mil for the next 3 years and tanev 2 mil + for 6 years and ntc
- RF_4eva


Honestly, for 6 years, a $2million/season contract could turn out to be a bargain for Tanev. Definitely still a risk.

If it's short term, it shouldn't be above the $1.5-1.75 range.

$1million/season is probably close to what Alberts will get from someone.

Not interested in locking up a 7/8 D man for 3 years, though, with a few prospects who will be ready for that type of duty within the next few years.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jul 15 @ 6:55 PM ET
Your too nice
You should really be a ref

- RF_4eva


I think the decision to add another Canucks ref was a pretty quick "no" from the powers that be.

Strange that Calgary gets two bloggers, yet the Canucks can't even get two refs...
RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Fosco's son, BC
Joined: 09.11.2012

Jul 15 @ 6:59 PM ET
I think the decision to add another Canucks ref was a pretty quick "no" from the powers that be.

Strange that Calgary gets two bloggers, yet the Canucks can't even get two refs...

- Fosco

Most of the population of posters here are leaf or canucks fans so I dont get why there is a no.
Things get pretty rowdy here sometimes and it is good to have more than just one ref having to clean up the mess.
DinoRondelly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.03.2011

Jul 15 @ 7:00 PM ET
I am sorry my post comes in in the 300s post range because most regs will miss it. but here's my question why can't Lou just retire? Or even in two or three years just retire? If all you are going going to lose is 300000 give take against the cap but gain salary back then why has everyone been so upset about this contract?

Lou could even leave now... play for Modo for equal momey and return.

Looks to me that this Cba has no teeth.

- Beatle_john


The reason Kovy cap recapture was so small is because the big money years didnt kick in till this season(11mill +), the first two were at 6mill. The penalty is used to determine the savings with the back diving years. So since the Canucks have already saved "cap space" the penalty will be much higher, not sure how much higher. So since he made 10 the first year and 6.7 every year after that but his cap hit is 5.3 then some kind of scientist can figure out the penalty ...
RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Fosco's son, BC
Joined: 09.11.2012

Jul 15 @ 7:02 PM ET
Honestly, for 6 years, a $2million/season contract could turn out to be a bargain for Tanev. Definitely still a risk.

If it's short term, it shouldn't be above the $1.5-1.75 range.

$1million/season is probably close to what Alberts will get from someone.

Not interested in locking up a 7/8 D man for 3 years, though, with a few prospects who will be ready for that type of duty within the next few years.

- Fosco

Although Gillis is more conservative this year, he has a tendency to give out too much just to lock up a player.
I wouldn't be surprised if he signs both to contracts that are "iffy" contracts.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Jul 15 @ 7:03 PM ET
I am sorry my post comes in in the 300s post range because most regs will miss it. but here's my question why can't Lou just retire? Or even in two or three years just retire? If all you are going going to lose is 300000 give take against the cap but gain salary back then why has everyone been so upset about this contract?

Lou could even leave now... play for Modo for equal momey and return.

Looks to me that this Cba has no teeth.

- Beatle_john


He could, but why would he. Moving to Sweden just to get out of massive contract, leaving North America and the NHL seems like a major hassle. He could just come back, put his big boy pants on and compete as hard as he can and try and win a cup all while making 5 million a year.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jul 15 @ 7:08 PM ET
Although Gillis is more conservative this year, he has a tendency to give out too much just to lock up a player.
I wouldn't be surprised if he signs both to contracts that are "iffy" contracts.

- RF_4eva


Only two I would consider "too much just to lock a player up" are Luongo and Higgins's contracts.

Luongo's was a good cap hit but WAY too long, and Higgins's was about $500k too much and a year or two too long.

The rest of Gillis's contracts have been excellent.

It's been more of a strength than a weakness, for sure.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 15 @ 7:31 PM ET
I would be interested in Hejduk. The Canucks could use a goalscorer. I just wonder if he has enough gas in the tank to contribute in the top 6.
- fiveandagame


From what I've read by Avs bloggers, Hejduk is pretty much done. I'd pass. Selanne is obviously a dream but isn't realistic. Jagr could be had but at what cost? Taking off Ek's post today I do like Prospal as a tools guy that could play on the 3rd line, sometime the 2nd, and potentially the 2nd PP unit. Not much else out in the way of 35+.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 15 @ 7:33 PM ET
Honestly, for 6 years, a $2million/season contract could turn out to be a bargain for Tanev. Definitely still a risk.

If it's short term, it shouldn't be above the $1.5-1.75 range.

$1million/season is probably close to what Alberts will get from someone.

Not interested in locking up a 7/8 D man for 3 years, though, with a few prospects who will be ready for that type of duty within the next few years.

- Fosco


If Muzzin got $1m and Smith $1.25m then Tanev doesn't have much ground to stand on if he's looking for more than that. And I don't view him as better than either of those two.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jul 15 @ 7:37 PM ET
From what I've read by Avs bloggers, Hejduk is pretty much done. I'd pass. Selanne is obviously a dream but isn't realistic. Jagr could be had but at what cost? Taking off Ek's post today I do like Prospal as a tools guy that could play on the 3rd line, sometime the 2nd, and potentially the 2nd PP unit. Not much else out in the way of 35+.
- AlexF


I'd take a flyer on all three if Gillis could swing a decent 1-year bonus-laden contract.

From what I've seen of Hejduk in the last two years, he'd look good feeding the puck to Kesler and Booth, and if he's injured, he's on the IR.

It's a risk, for sure...but if he doesn't reach the performance bonuses, it's no harm done.

Not like the Canucks have a glut of top6 wingers.

I'd also suspect that having another skilled veteran presence in the locker room couldn't hurt.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jul 15 @ 7:42 PM ET
If Muzzin got $1m and Smith $1.25m then Tanev doesn't have much ground to stand on if he's looking for more than that. And I don't view him as better than either of those two.
- AlexF


I view him in the same league as those two, but he hasn't proven that he deserves more at this point.

Again, I don't think he should get more than them on a shorter term deal, but if it's a long term deal where he gives up UFA eligibility, than I'd be OK with Gillis opening the coffers a bit more.

It's a risk, but Tanev will likely get better before he gets worse—if he signed a 6 year deal and did improve to be a consistent 3/4 D-man, that would be an absolute steal in a few years with the cap going up...

But a shorter term "bridge contract" is probably the safer bet for both parties.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 15 @ 7:47 PM ET
I'd take a flyer on all three if Gillis could swing a decent 1-year bonus-laden contract.

From what I've seen of Hejduk in the last two years, he'd look good feeding the puck to Kesler and Booth, and if he's injured, he's on the IR.

It's a risk, for sure...but if he doesn't reach the performance bonuses, it's no harm done.

Not like the Canucks have a glut of top6 wingers.

I'd also suspect that having another skilled veteran presence in the locker room couldn't hurt.

- Fosco


Agreed here, but neither do the Avs and they're letting him walk. I'd prefer to give a shot to the others I mentioned over Hejduk. If I was to take a flyer on a guy who could end up on the IR, it'd be Peter Mueller. But we were talking 35+.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jul 15 @ 7:57 PM ET
Agreed here, but neither do the Avs and they're letting him walk. I'd prefer to give a shot to the others I mentioned over Hejduk. If I was to take a flyer on a guy who could end up on the IR, it'd be Peter Mueller. But we were talking 35+.
- AlexF


I'd be OK with Meuller. He'll probably get offered a bit more than the Canucks can offer from another more desperate team with more space.

Gotta think he'd look pretty good to NJ right about now...but pretty much every potential top6 forward should.

I was just thinking about this...what if the Canucks use their compliance buyout on Lou next off season, played one season with a stop-gap, and signed Schneider as a UFA after the 14/15 season...

Game, set, match - Gillis
rune_74
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.14.2007

Jul 15 @ 8:31 PM ET
i could care less....

Ian needs to think before he writes. just writing puff pieces praising Gillis and everything canuck related just doesnt cut it. A teams blogger should discuss the state of the team....rationally and accurately, not his wishful fantasies

people come here to get a local view of the state of the team, not a kiss Mike Gillis arse puff piece

- joeyp


Maybe we have enough of the idiot burn gillis at the stake posts.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 15 @ 10:10 PM ET
I'd be OK with Meuller. He'll probably get offered a bit more than the Canucks can offer from another more desperate team with more space.

Gotta think he'd look pretty good to NJ right about now...but pretty much every potential top6 forward should.

I was just thinking about this...what if the Canucks use their compliance buyout on Lou next off season, played one season with a stop-gap, and signed Schneider as a UFA after the 14/15 season...

Game, set, match - Gillis

- Fosco


I'm sure Schneider will come running back with arms wide open. He's an East Coast boy, making millions, with a chance to live in Manhattan. If he puts up numbers anywhere close to what he's been doing here Lamorello will re-sign him next summer to a long term deal.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jul 16 @ 12:18 AM ET
If you have an issue with Ian's blogs, it's as simple as not reading them.

It's all opinion, just like any other post here.

There's no reason to be an ass about it—not only do you come off as a whiny little peach, you will probably get a ban when Micah reads that you've insulted the blogger without offering any constructive criticism...

- Fosco


And how!
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jul 16 @ 12:24 AM ET
I think the decision to add another Canucks ref was a pretty quick "no" from the powers that be.

Strange that Calgary gets two bloggers, yet the Canucks can't even get two refs...

- Fosco


Bloggers are productive, refs are restrictive. More bloggers is definitely more better than more refs. Calgary had a long wait to get a ref; Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit, Edmonton don't have one at all.

We're probably stuck with me and the occasional Leafs ref for a while. At least when the season starts, the rest of the refs are around more often.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 16 @ 12:47 AM ET
Bloggers are productive, refs are restrictive. More bloggers is definitely more better than more refs. Calgary had a long wait to get a ref; Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit, Edmonton don't have one at all.

We're probably stuck with me and the occasional Leafs ref for a while. At least when the season starts, the rest of the refs are around more often.

- micah555


I've seen Howie pop in on occasion. He's a solid ref.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jul 16 @ 1:27 AM ET
Bloggers are productive, refs are restrictive. More bloggers is definitely more better than more refs. Calgary had a long wait to get a ref; Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit, Edmonton don't have one at all.

We're probably stuck with me and the occasional Leafs ref for a while. At least when the season starts, the rest of the refs are around more often.

- micah555


I have no problem with the job you do, and am grateful for the visiting refs when they drop in on hectic days. I was just commenting about the talk from Ian about getting another ref a while back.

Also agree that many of those other teams deserve their first ref before the Canucks get their second—which is part of the reason I claimed that it was probably a quick "no" in my earlier post.

No comment really on your bloggers/ref's ratio opinion (still don't see why CGY needs two bloggers...).
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jul 16 @ 2:13 AM ET
Only two I would consider "too much just to lock a player up" are Luongo and Higgins's contracts.

Luongo's was a good cap hit but WAY too long, and Higgins's was about $500k too much and a year or two too long.

The rest of Gillis's contracts have been excellent.

It's been more of a strength than a weakness, for sure.

- Fosco


Burrows contract is too much. He should be at 3-3.5 per season.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jul 16 @ 2:59 AM ET
Burrows contract is too much. He should be at 3-3.5 per season.
- Scooby_Doo


He was a steal last time out. Based on comparable players, he's fairly paid. After watching free agency, it's clear he could have gotten more elsewhere.
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