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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 13 @ 1:28 PM ET
I think you'll see just about everybody signing cheaply from this point forward... nobody wants to have the music stop and be left w/o a chair.

As for the vid above, my favorite part is:


- Tomahawk

looks like a knocked out fighter
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jul 13 @ 1:38 PM ET
There's a lot of quality, young-ish forwards still available on the market... I don't think the market for Gagne is too expansive. His best bet at finding an NHL gig might have been to go into a camp on a PTO anyway...
- Tomahawk


Gagne is a 3rd line forward with a history of concussions. It's not like teams are knocking down his door to sign him. The Flyers can sign him after they straighten out their cap space/contract number issues.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 13 @ 1:42 PM ET
Hey Bill,
It appears Fredric Larsson is coming over to play in the USHL. How would you compare the USHL to the European juniors? Would this be a step down in competition for him?

- psuhockey


Comparable quality. He already plays a style better suited to the small rink, so I think it would be a positive step for him.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 13 @ 1:45 PM ET
I'd rather take my chances with the young raffle than go old and gag.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 13 @ 2:18 PM ET
love jake, nice choice

crim put up a video of all his points last season, i'll repost here

made me itch for hockey to just freaking start already

- Don'tForgetTocchet


just made this same exact comment to my brother like an hour ago

july 13 and i already cannot wait. gonna be a rough summer
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 13 @ 2:40 PM ET

- Don'tForgetTocchet


what a beast

and i'll be the first to admit that in my ignorance i was disappointed when i first heard that he was the player we got back in the carter trade. never thought i'd be this big a fan
Cmulvey12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 13 @ 3:31 PM ET

- Don'tForgetTocchet

I would give up anything for Voracek
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 3:41 PM ET
Coming in tomorrow's blog... if Straka was as well-rounded as Raffl or if Raffl had Straka's hands, you'd be talking about an immediate NHLer. As it is, Straka is an AHL player right noe with a chance to work his way up.
- bmeltzer


Well they should go see Flo and use the Progressive "bundler"!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 3:48 PM ET
Matt Reads, Damien Brunners and Viktor Fasths are complete outliers, yet it's almost comical to see NHL teams falling over themselves, taking sudden interest in fringe college programs, secondary/tertiary European pro leagues, and combing around for older, unsigned goalies -- somebody needs to tell them that the diamond's already been plucked out of the rough.

I'm glad the Flyers were ahead of the curve on Read... however, if they really expect Raffl to have a shot at replicating what Brunner was able to pull off last season, they're in for a big surprise.

- Tomahawk


It's not any different then Draft picks. 2nd and 3rd round picks that go on to become very good NHL players are also outliers. Looking for undrafted talent that the draft overlooked is a good way to increase your prospect base. You're not going to hit on every one. Just like you aren't with draft picks. The Flyers should absolutely continue to do what they're doing in the undrafted UFA market.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 13 @ 4:01 PM ET
Well they should go see Flo and use the Progressive "bundler"!
- MJL


I was thinking the exact same thing when I read the post. I went as far as trying to find a Flo pic to attach but I couldn't find one I liked so I gave up.

(you should be a bit concerned)
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 13 @ 4:14 PM ET
I would give up anything for Voracek
- Cmulvey12

Ristolainen, Zadorov, Vanek, Myers, Hackett, McCabe, Grigorenko, and your next 4 1st round picks. I think yes
Roytastic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 06.18.2013

Jul 13 @ 4:31 PM ET
Ristolainen, Zadorov, Vanek, Myers, Hackett, McCabe, Grigorenko, and your next 4 1st round picks. I think yes
- JAKEw1234



That's just an all around good hockey trade I think.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 4:41 PM ET
uh oh, the jersey curse!
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Skip is bad luck.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jul 13 @ 4:44 PM ET
Skip is bad luck.
- ob18



i think we should take up a collection and send Skip a Crosby and a Malkin jersey.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 13 @ 4:44 PM ET
Gagne is a 3rd line forward with a history of concussions. It's not like teams are knocking down his door to sign him. The Flyers can sign him after they straighten out their cap space/contract number issues.
- phillydentist


I don't have a problem either way with Gagne.

If they sign him great.

If they don't not a big deal.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
I'd rather take my chances with the young raffle than go old and gag.
- JoeRussomanno

This is a new stripe for you and not at all indicative of any posts of yours from the past two years.

FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 13 @ 4:49 PM ET
i think we should take up a collection and send Skip a Crosby and a Malkin jersey.
- Doc_Sarcasm


and then they both wind up on the rangers
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 13 @ 4:49 PM ET
Skip is bad luck.
- ob18


If Grossmann is gone, I may go nuts and be branded a Kook-konen.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
i think we should take up a collection and send Skip a Crosby and a Malkin jersey.
- Doc_Sarcasm

The fireplace *does* need kindling...
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Jul 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
Has anyone signed Bryz?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
I don't have a problem either way with Gagne.

If they sign him great.

If they don't not a big deal.

- stveshdy


Same here. But I'd definitely prefer that they give one of the young kids a shot over signing Gagne. But I won't be upset if they do.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
If Grossmann is gone, I may go nuts and be branded a Kook-konen.
- Flyskippy


I knew it would take you long to mention him.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 4:51 PM ET
Has anyone signed Bryz?
- LJF


NASA
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 13 @ 4:53 PM ET
and then they both wind up on the rangers
- FlyerMike18

I'd "Sather" they be Rangers than Penguins.

/pun
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 13 @ 4:53 PM ET
I knew it would take you long to mention him.
- ob18

I checked to see if Jsaq did first.
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