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todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 14 @ 2:29 AM ET
Honestly, I think we are gonna see about every lineup possible again this year. With bunches and oodles of combinations. Just to see where everyone fits.
- BoltsFan4Life

idk does copper bounce his lines like boucher or does he like to keep guys together ?
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 14 @ 2:56 AM ET
say this season tanks and we get the first pick in the 2014 nhl draft does vinik fire yzerman ? or does he give him more time ?
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 14 @ 6:24 AM ET
say this season tanks and we get the first pick in the 2014 nhl draft does vinik fire yzerman ? or does he give him more time ?
- todd1a

Nope. He may feel the pressure, but a building from the ground up takes time. You can't throw money, picks and prospects around and buy a cup. In this salary cap er, you MUST draft well. In two years, when all of Mr. Yzermans picks and signings mature we will be able to look back and truly see how Yzerman did.
tpd11
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 14 @ 7:32 AM ET
Nope. He may feel the pressure, but a building from the ground up takes time. You can't throw money, picks and prospects around and buy a cup. In this salary cap er, you MUST draft well. In two years, when all of Mr. Yzermans picks and signings mature we will be able to look back and truly see how Yzerman did.
- Artyukhin76

Well said.
Time for JERKO to go back to the Wings blog.
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 14 @ 9:46 AM ET
Nope. He may feel the pressure, but a building from the ground up takes time. You can't throw money, picks and prospects around and buy a cup. In this salary cap er, you MUST draft well. In two years, when all of Mr. Yzermans picks and signings mature we will be able to look back and truly see how Yzerman did.
- Artyukhin76

Ya I really hope the results start showing for yzerman I think he has us on the right track to become a daily nhl contender every season! he just needs a bit more time.
RileyB77
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Canada
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 14 @ 10:42 AM ET
might be better off putting malone with Val Filppula malone stands in front of the nets and will shoot the puck rather then drouin and purcell.
- todd1a


i thought of that but.. this changed my mind and made it look good to me

Each scoring line is typically made up a worker, a shooter, and a passer. The above projections do not mean Killorn is above Drouin on the depth chart (arguable, though for now), but his style fits that line while still contributing offense. I debated swapping Panik and Purcell, but Purcell is an excellent sniper and Vilppula fits the workhorse mode there. It also prevents two rookies from being on the same line. Ultimately it's irrelevant as lines change all the time anyway.

-boltsprospects


...maybe purcell felt that he had to undergo a different role last year, he was on the PP with st louis and stamkos, where we all know who the obvious sniper is there...

then he was constantly shifting between 1st/2nd line...where he would be with stamkos (sniper) and then working with lecavalier and killorn, well both of them can shoot when they want to..

but seeing purcell on this line where filpulla can be the hard worker and play smart hockey and get posession, drouin can feed purcell all day and purcell can feel like he is back in his place and can start shooting that (frank)ing rocket he has, it would be amazing. he can surely be a 30+ goal scorer with drouin and fillpula (in my opinion) . very gifted hockey player, and his line now has more chemistry and will able to him shoot in my opinion....i know its hard to say they have more chemistry now when we havent even seen them play, but its just the prediction

plus, drouin had almost 50 goals in the Q last season, its not like he cant put it in the net either ( i know his obvious assests) just sayin..
RileyB77
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Canada
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 14 @ 10:47 AM ET
Ya I really hope the results start showing for yzerman I think he has us on the right track to become a daily nhl contender every season! he just needs a bit more time.
- todd1a


the results of yzerman will start showing as soon as this season, an thats saying a lot considering the poop that he picked up when he got here lol
Clicker
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 12.06.2007

Jul 14 @ 12:27 PM ET
the messed up thing is, us in detroit, WANT tampa to succeed, steve Yzerman is a KING here, and not one person in detroit would ever wish him to fail, But here are all the Tampa fans just trolling on detroit... for being bankrupt? yeah because thas cool to make fun of in a hockey forum
- digitalbath


Talk about trolling in a hockey forum, it get's a little old having folks come in here telling us we are not a hockey market. Hockey doesn't belong here, we should be A) moved or B) disbanded, etc. This despite the fact that we were 8th in the league in attendance and play in an arena that sits almost 20k. Oh, I forgot, the reason we are 8th in attendance is because we don't charge high prices for tickets. Need I go on?
digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Detroit, MI
Joined: 07.09.2011

Jul 14 @ 12:50 PM ET
that's because Pierre used to be a scout and assistant coach for them
- BoltsFan4Life



how many other scouts and coaches wanna make out with their star player... just saying he goes above and beyond praise.
vinnybolt4life
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: clearwater, FL
Joined: 08.13.2009

Jul 14 @ 1:50 PM ET
Talk about trolling in a hockey forum, it get's a little old having folks come in here telling us we are not a hockey market. Hockey doesn't belong here, we should be A) moved or B) disbanded, etc. This despite the fact that we were 8th in the league in attendance and play in an arena that sits almost 20k. Oh, I forgot, the reason we are 8th in attendance is because we don't charge high prices for tickets. Need I go on?
- Clicker


Exactly, had this argument with some Canadian fans saying we are not a real market because we can get tickets food and parking for what a big market team fan pays basically for parking.

Sports are for pleasure and when you have to come up with a mortgage payment to bring your family to a game that's just stupid and if your proud of that then you aren't to bright.

Love hockey for that reason and when the prices get to outrageous; will basically watch on tv; sad the way these athletes are paid and regular folks are squeezed out of watching games live but that is nature, so I'll be a rube in a southern market enjoying my low priced tickets and watching live games then these fans who probably very rarely enjoy a live game because of pricing.
MightyPee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 14 @ 1:55 PM ET
http://www.youtube.com/wa...er_embedded&v=SDqDs_nI4Dw

Another Drouin highlights at the camp. Argh. Want to see him play in October.
BooBoo997
Detroit Red Wings
Location: NB
Joined: 01.03.2006

Jul 14 @ 3:33 PM ET
Yet more words of wisdom from the peanut gallery. He's not Vinny in terms of offense, but Vinny ain't him in terms of defensive play and cap nightmare. I'm over Detroit trolls harping on what we payed. YES IT (frank)ING MORE THEN HE'S WORTH, STOP (frank)ING TELLING US! Free agency is always expensive, but we as Lightning fans (most of us) are satisfied so please, if you don't have anything else to say, just GO AWAY!
- Artyukhin76


It's not harping -- it's reality, why because we lived it.

Don't fall in love with the sexy name just because he came from the DET organization. Everything TB fans are trying to paint Filpulla, is true, but only 25% of the time -- DET fans are just giving a heads' up, sounds like you just dont want to accept it.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 14 @ 3:47 PM ET
It's not harping -- it's reality, why because we lived it.

Don't fall in love with the sexy name just because he came from the DET organization. Everything TB fans are trying to paint Filpulla, is true, but only 25% of the time -- DET fans are just giving a heads' up, sounds like you just dont want to accept it.

- BooBoo997

You came in here acting like a jerk, running your mouth and trolling, but now you wanna play all nicey nice? We have a pretty good understanding of how you feel about him and what he brings to our team so on that note, STFU & GTFO.
digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Detroit, MI
Joined: 07.09.2011

Jul 14 @ 3:50 PM ET
Talk about trolling in a hockey forum, it get's a little old having folks come in here telling us we are not a hockey market. Hockey doesn't belong here, we should be A) moved or B) disbanded, etc. This despite the fact that we were 8th in the league in attendance and play in an arena that sits almost 20k. Oh, I forgot, the reason we are 8th in attendance is because we don't charge high prices for tickets. Need I go on?
- Clicker



No I get that. I guess my point was everyone was flipping out like all detroit fans were trolling you. When I wasn't, and most the people i know outside of jerko I guess love the bolts
digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Detroit, MI
Joined: 07.09.2011

Jul 14 @ 3:56 PM ET
It's not harping -- it's reality, why because we lived it.

Don't fall in love with the sexy name just because he came from the DET organization. Everything TB fans are trying to paint Filpulla, is true, but only 25% of the time -- DET fans are just giving a heads' up, sounds like you just dont want to accept it.

- BooBoo997


Really? Come on man. You really are just giving them a hard time now. Your sounding pretty arrogant
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 14 @ 4:44 PM ET
Really? Come on man. You really are just giving them a hard time now. Your sounding pretty arrogant
- digitalbath

Guys like him we are accustomed too, being the red headed stepchild of the NHL. We've had success in NHL, but we're not welcome at the adults table.

I know Filppula won't be a star, I'm well aware of that, but being a .52 PPG player will make him around a 40 point per season guy. He is sound defensively and responsible in all three zones. Yzerman stated very bluntly that Valterri isn't here to replace Vinny (before you say 'that's for sure' save it). I am sure that he will improve our team for the reason he was brought in, a solid two way center that can win faces-off and contribute offensively.
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 14 @ 11:33 PM ET
Guys like him we are accustomed too, being the red headed stepchild of the NHL. We've had success in NHL, but we're not welcome at the adults table.

I know Filppula won't be a star, I'm well aware of that, but being a .52 PPG player will make him around a 40 point per season guy. He is sound defensively and responsible in all three zones. Yzerman stated very bluntly that Valterri isn't here to replace Vinny (before you say 'that's for sure' save it). I am sure that he will improve our team for the reason he was brought in, a solid two way center that can win faces-off and contribute offensively.

- Artyukhin76

this! if you go to the lightning website redwing fans! yes yzerman said IDK that he is going to get a lot of points he is not that type of player!
BoltsFan4Life
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jul 15 @ 3:48 PM ET
idk does copper bounce his lines like boucher or does he like to keep guys together ?
- todd1a


pretty sure he likes to bounce his lines around as well
BoltsFan4Life
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jul 15 @ 3:53 PM ET
how many other scouts and coaches wanna make out with their star player... just saying he goes above and beyond praise.
- digitalbath


oh I know that. but if you watch every game pierre does, he literally praises everyone. lol
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jul 15 @ 4:03 PM ET
His contract pisses me right off. Kesler makes five million, and when his contract is up, he'll probably look at this and want 7. Yzerman is a crap GM. All the assets he gave up for a two unproven goalies is laughable.
- Boinker


Are you sure you want to throw stones at other GM's for their handling of goaltenders?
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jul 15 @ 4:07 PM ET
Downtown Tampa isn't exactly a shining example of loveliness.
- Artyukhin76


Channelside is part of downtown. It's only north downtown that sucks but the southside with the river and harbor island is very nice
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jul 15 @ 4:14 PM ET
idk does copper bounce his lines like boucher or does he like to keep guys together ?
- todd1a


Bouncing lines is just a result of on-ice chemistry or the lack thereof. The frustrating thing about Boucher was he would bounce lines that were playing well. As for Cooper he bounces a little but that is true across all of the NHL so we are no different. He doesn't play the 4th line a lot so that is very similar to Boucher.
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jul 15 @ 4:20 PM ET
Exactly, had this argument with some Canadian fans saying we are not a real market because we can get tickets food and parking for what a big market team fan pays basically for parking.

Sports are for pleasure and when you have to come up with a mortgage payment to bring your family to a game that's just stupid and if your proud of that then you aren't to bright.

Love hockey for that reason and when the prices get to outrageous; will basically watch on tv; sad the way these athletes are paid and regular folks are squeezed out of watching games live but that is nature, so I'll be a rube in a southern market enjoying my low priced tickets and watching live games then these fans who probably very rarely enjoy a live game because of pricing.

- vinnybolt4life


Those same Canadian fans don't mind the cheap ticket prices either as they bring their families down here for VACATION and get to see hockey while on vacation. It's ludicrous that they use the revenue sharing as their main argument when if they opened their (frank)ing eyes they'd realize their teams show profits hundreds of millions of dollars so it isn't revenue sharing that is driving up their prices, its nothing more than greedy owners making lots of profit and fans who are willing to pay, which in a free world is nothing more than capitalism
tmoore4075
Detroit Red Wings
Location: South Lyon, MI
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 16 @ 8:48 AM ET
Guys like him we are accustomed too, being the red headed stepchild of the NHL. We've had success in NHL, but we're not welcome at the adults table.

I know Filppula won't be a star, I'm well aware of that, but being a .52 PPG player will make him around a 40 point per season guy. He is sound defensively and responsible in all three zones. Yzerman stated very bluntly that Valterri isn't here to replace Vinny (before you say 'that's for sure' save it). I am sure that he will improve our team for the reason he was brought in, a solid two way center that can win faces-off and contribute offensively.

- Artyukhin76

The thing with that is he's a better player than a 40 point scorer but rarely gets there. And at $5mil he should be the 11-12 Fil and that's scoring 60 points. He's great defensively that's for sure but when you have the potential to be a 60 point scorer and can't or don't do it, it's potential wasted. I hope he works out there...but ya know..not too much since Wings and TBL are in the same division now.
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 16 @ 9:16 AM ET
The thing with that is he's a better player than a 40 point scorer but rarely gets there. And at $5mil he should be the 11-12 Fil and that's scoring 60 points. He's great defensively that's for sure but when you have the potential to be a 60 point scorer and can't or don't do it, it's potential wasted. I hope he works out there...but ya know..not too much since Wings and TBL are in the same division now.
- tmoore4075

Dude if you watch the lightning we don't have trouble scoring goals! we can't stop teams from scoring on us! it's his two way hockey game yzerman wanted to bring into tampa.
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