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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 12 @ 12:54 PM ET
He already knows he has $15 mill a year coming in the KHL and he has a sick mother in Russia. Perfect storm.

Bryz has a wife who came to the U.S. as a teen and wants no part of 24/7 life in Russia with her two U.S.-born kids. They spend summers there. But being there permanently is not their dream. However, they may be stuck with that if he wants to keep playing. However, thanks to Ed, he doesn't NEED to.

- bodiva88


If I were Bryz, and I didn't LOVE the lifestyle of being in the NHL and the travel, etc...., I'd probably just hang'em up.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 12 @ 12:56 PM ET
If I were Bryz, and I didn't LOVE the lifestyle of being in the NHL and the travel, etc...., I'd probably just play in a beer league.
- johndewar

FTFY
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 12 @ 12:57 PM ET
FTFY
- Flyskippy


Or that too....good point!
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 12 @ 12:58 PM ET
I think this Flyers team has a puncher's chance of getting up there with those other teams you mentioned.

I'm pretty confident that the Flyers won't miss the playoffs as currently constituted.

- johndewar


Same here. The thing that could put them over the top offensively, like last year, is Courturier and B. Schenn. If these guys can produce more offensively (Schenn with 20+ goals, 50-60 points and Couturier with 15-20 goals, 45-55 points).

I'm still nervous with Laviolette as coach though. Team D is STILL an issue that has yet to be resolved.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 12 @ 12:58 PM ET
If I were Bryz, and I didn't LOVE the lifestyle of being in the NHL and the travel, etc...., I'd probably just hang'em up.
- johndewar

Maybe now he can pursue his passion for space. I mean, he started the training during the lockout, right?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 12 @ 12:59 PM ET
And Emery has a Stanley Cup.
- bodiva88


so does bryz.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 12 @ 1:00 PM ET
her cats kicking your butt?
- Don'tForgetTocchet


i wasn't referring to her actual cats.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 12 @ 1:01 PM ET
Maybe now he can pursue his passion for space. I mean, he started the training during the lockout, right?
- BulliesPhan87

He's pondering his future as we speak:

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 12 @ 1:01 PM ET
Same here. The thing that could put them over the top offensively, like last year, is Courturier and B. Schenn. If these guys can produce more offensively (Schenn with 20+ goals, 50-60 points and Couturier with 15-20 goals, 45-55 points).

I'm still nervous with Laviolette as coach though. Team D is STILL an issue that has yet to be resolved.

- NickTheKid87

I'm a bit less nervous about Lavi with a blueline that should move the puck better.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 12 @ 1:01 PM ET
so does bryz.
- hammarby31



I can't get enough of this pic:

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 12 @ 1:01 PM ET
Same here. The thing that could put them over the top offensively, like last year, is Courturier and B. Schenn. If these guys can produce more offensively (Schenn with 20+ goals, 50-60 points and Couturier with 15-20 goals, 45-55 points).

I'm still nervous with Laviolette as coach though. Team D is STILL an issue that has yet to be resolved.

- NickTheKid87

isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 12 @ 1:02 PM ET
But we all know that this "retirement" is a farce. If he retires completely from playing Hockey, then so be it. But that isn't what this is. This is walking away from a franchise that put a lot on the line to acquire the player. And bolting to the KHL. It's not a retirement. Calling it that is a sham.
- MJL

breach by mutual consent
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 12 @ 1:02 PM ET
I can't get enough of this pic:


- Tomahawk

Had to copy and paste it in another tab to see it. Huh.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 12 @ 1:03 PM ET
I can't get enough of this pic:


- Tomahawk


Why you heff to hold Cup?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 12 @ 1:04 PM ET
And Emery has a Stanley Cup.
- bodiva88

So did bryzgalov
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 12 @ 1:04 PM ET
Same here. The thing that could put them over the top offensively, like last year, is Courturier and B. Schenn. If these guys can produce more offensively (Schenn with 20+ goals, 50-60 points and Couturier with 15-20 goals, 45-55 points).

I'm still nervous with Laviolette as coach though. Team D is STILL an issue that has yet to be resolved.

- NickTheKid87


You nailed it, I think. BSchenn and Couturier are the wild cards, IMO, and the key to how far this team goes.

I'm betting Lavvy is on a pretty short leash, so if some of last year's ugliness isn't cleaned, you can bet that Homer will go in a different direction, in season. Especially since, you can't really accuse Homer of sitting on his hands this off-season. We can debate the merits of the moves, but Homer can say with a straight face that he did "something" to improve facets of the team. Homer could obviously not have said that last summer..

Whether they were the right facets is obviously up for debate.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
But we all know that this "retirement" is a farce. If he retires completely from playing Hockey, then so be it. But that isn't what this is. This is walking away from a franchise that put a lot on the line to acquire the player. And bolting to the KHL. It's not a retirement. Calling it that is a sham.
- MJL



Legally, as long as there is no CBA/Transfer Agreement violation, the move is kosher.

Morally and ethically, that's another question... but then again, this is world of professional sports... when did anybody really give a damn about morality and ethics until it was their turn to get the shaft?

Star players have been bolting for years from other leagues to the NHL, one way or another.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 12 @ 1:07 PM ET
Same here. The thing that could put them over the top offensively, like last year, is Courturier and B. Schenn. If these guys can produce more offensively (Schenn with 20+ goals, 50-60 points and Couturier with 15-20 goals, 45-55 points).

I'm still nervous with Laviolette as coach though. Team D is STILL an issue that has yet to be resolved.

- NickTheKid87

Yes thank you
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 12 @ 1:08 PM ET
Legally, as long as there is no CBA/Transfer Agreement violation, the move is kosher.

Morally and ethically, that's another question... but then again, this is world of professional sports... when did anybody really give a damn about morality and ethics until it was their turn to get the shaft?

Star players have been bolting for years from other leagues to the NHL, one way or another.

- Tomahawk


I think some former players (*cough*Roenick*cough*) need to realize that, if they had the option that Kovalchuk had, they might well have done the same thing.

But I imagine the air smells good on JR's high horse.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
Do you guys see this team as:

1) guaranteed spot (1-3 in their conference)
2) Wild card spot (4-5 in conference)
3) Outside looking in
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
I'm a bit less nervous about Lavi with a blueline that should move the puck better.
- BulliesPhan87


I think the offense will be much improved solely from the addition of Streit but even when Carle and Pronger were here, team D was an issue.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jul 12 @ 1:10 PM ET
You nailed it, I think. BSchenn and Couturier are the wild cards, IMO, and the key to how far this team goes.

I'm betting Lavvy is on a pretty short leash, so if some of last year's ugliness isn't cleaned, you can bet that Homer will go in a different direction, in season. Especially since, you can't really accuse Homer of sitting on his hands this off-season. We can debate the merits of the moves, but Homer can say with a straight face that he did "something" to improve facets of the team. Homer could obviously not have said that last summer..

Whether they were the right facets is obviously up for debate.

- johndewar


I'd say Lavy gets fired if they lose 15 games before they win 10.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 12 @ 1:13 PM ET
i wasn't referring to her actual cats.
- hammarby31



Oh sheesh I have to admit that went WHOOSH over my head
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 12 @ 1:14 PM ET
Do you guys see this team as:

1) guaranteed spot (1-3 in their conference)
2) Wild card spot (4-5 in conference)
3) Outside looking in

- jmatchett383


If Lavi does not change they way they play, 2, or 3.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 12 @ 1:14 PM ET
I think the offense will be much improved solely from the addition of Streit but even when Carle and Pronger were here, team D was an issue.
- NickTheKid87

I think it should at least help them get out of our zone more easily. Otherwise, I agree. As long as we see more W's than L's though, right?
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