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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 11:34 AM ET
if strome is ready and is happy being on the wing...id blow up the current top line and have it look like this:

Clutterbuck- JT - Strome

id be thrilled for the isles to trade moulson and get a top 4 guy.

- LetsGoIsles

Even though Moulson puts up pts and he's a three time 30 goal scorer it'd still be Moulson +
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 11:34 AM ET
if strome is ready and is happy being on the wing...id blow up the current top line and have it look like this:

Clutterbuck- JT - Strome
id be thrilled for the isles to trade moulson and get a top 4 guy.

- LetsGoIsles

LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jul 12 @ 11:37 AM ET
Even though Moulson puts up pts and he's a three time 30 goal scorer it'd still be Moulson +
- Cptmjl



(obviously, depends who specifically) but im fine with moulson + 2nd tier prospect for a top 4 dman.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 12 @ 11:37 AM ET
The guy is hard to watch and deplorable on the other side of the puck, one of those players that I have no idea how he puts up points. Mailed it in more than usual last year IMO
- Cptmjl



He was on pace for a career high in points. Led the team in assists and was on pace for another 30 goals. How is that mailing it in? Yes terrible on the D side but so were a lot of other Islanders. My point is if they can go out and get a better option then great but as of now he is best the option as one of JT'S wings
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 11:37 AM ET
(obviously, depends who specifically) but im fine with moulson + 2nd tier prospect for a top 4 dman.
- LetsGoIsles

Yep, me too. Sign me up
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 11:40 AM ET
He was on pace for a career high in points. Led the team in assists and was on pace for another 30 goals. How is that mailing it in? Yes terrible on the D side but so were a lot of other Islanders. My point is if they can go out and get a better option then great but as of now he is best the option as one of JT'S wings
- Vukota

I hear ya but there wwere stretches where he just gave up on plays, doesn't back check in any way. Didn't get in the dirty areas where he used to score, seemed to be getting away from his game a bit. If there were any player I wouldn't mind being traded it'd be him if we had a suitable replacement and a decent return of course. He is deplorable defensively to the point where his plays or lack there of directly lead to opposing goals.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 12 @ 11:46 AM ET
I hear ya but there wwere stretches where he just gave up on plays, doesn't back check in any way. Didn't get in the dirty areas where he used to score, seemed to be getting away from his game a bit. If there were any player I wouldn't mind being traded it'd be him if we had a suitable replacement and a decent return of course. He is deplorable defensively to the point where his plays or lack there of directly lead to opposing goals.
- Cptmjl


Fair enough but I can't kill him when there are other guys who don't produce at all
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jul 12 @ 11:46 AM ET
I hear ya but there wwere stretches where he just gave up on plays, doesn't back check in any way. Didn't get in the dirty areas where he used to score, seemed to be getting away from his game a bit. If there were any player I wouldn't mind being traded it'd be him if we had a suitable replacement and a decent return of course. He is deplorable defensively to the point where his plays or lack there of directly lead to opposing goals.
- Cptmjl


He got there, he just didn't have his damn stick on the ice. Frustrated me more than anything else last season...he and Boyes were both guilty of it. It's like they would just assume Tavares wasn't in position to make the pass, so they'd have their sticks casually off the ice. When playing with Tavares, expect to get the pass when you least expect it...he does have at least three defenders to fake out at any given time when making a play.

Edit -- That said, let's wait until we're actually drowning in 30-goal scorers before sending the only consistent one packing...
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 12 @ 11:49 AM ET
He got there, he just didn't have his damn stick on the ice. Frustrated me more than anything else last season...he and Boyes were both guilty of it. It's like they would just assume Tavares wasn't in position to make the pass, so they'd have their sticks casually off the ice. When playing with Tavares, expect to get the pass when you least expect it...he does have at least three defenders to fake out at any given time when making a play.

Edit -- That said, let's wait until we're actually drowning in 30-goal scorers before sending the only consistent one packing...

- UIF



Bingo!!!
Bags502
New York Islanders
Location: Huntington, NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 12 @ 11:52 AM ET
Could just blow up everything and go with lines looking like...

Moulson - Tavares - Strome
Bouchard - Nelson - Grabner (Speed line)
Bailey - Nielsen - Okposo
Clutterbuck - Cizikis - Martin (Hit everything line)
(McDonald/Regin)

Then if Moulson's play continues to drop off, just drop him down to the 3rd line.

Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 12 @ 11:53 AM ET
Could just blow up everything and go with lines looking like...

Moulson - Tavares - Strome
Bouchard - Nelson - Grabner (Speed line)
Bailey - Nielsen - Okposo
Clutterbuck - Cizikis - Martin (Hit everything line)
(McDonald/Regin)

Then if Moulson's play continues to drop off, just drop him down to the 3rd line.

- Bags502


Moulson is useless if he is not in the top 6. You can't put him on a checking line he sucks on D
Nolanders
New York Islanders
Location: Canada
Joined: 08.24.2007

Jul 12 @ 11:53 AM ET
Could just blow up everything and go with lines looking like...

Moulson - Tavares - Strome
Bouchard - Nelson - Grabner (Speed line)
Bailey - Nielsen - Okposo
Clutterbuck - Cizikis - Martin (Hit everything line)
(McDonald/Regin)

Then if Moulson's play continues to drop off, just drop him down to the 3rd line.

- Bags502



not bad!!!
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jul 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
trade moulson!!! (or neilson)
- LetsGoIsles

Why...hard to give up on 30 goal scorers...not happening...Moulson has a good contract and has good chemistry with JT. The only way Moulson gets traded is at the deadline if he hasn't signed a new extension. Snow loves Neilsen...you might see Grabner traded though and maybe Bailey if they can't get the new contract straightened out.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jul 12 @ 12:00 PM ET
Yep, me too. Sign me up
- Cptmjl

Not happening...Moulson is the 2nd best offensive player on the Islanders...look for another extension in January at 3 or 4 years at $4 mil per year...While I like Grabner, I see him traded for a veteran defenseman.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 12 @ 12:01 PM ET
I went into the team store after the scrimmage hoping to get some Clutterbuck gear and they didn't have any Now I know why they just announced he will be wearing 15. Regin 16 and Bouchard 96
Bags502
New York Islanders
Location: Huntington, NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 12 @ 12:01 PM ET
Moulson is useless if he is not in the top 6. You can't put him on a checking line he sucks on D
- Vukota


The only real checking line the Isles have would be the fourth... A line consisting of Bailey-Nielsen-Okposo isnt a checking line
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jul 12 @ 12:02 PM ET
He got there, he just didn't have his damn stick on the ice. Frustrated me more than anything else last season...he and Boyes were both guilty of it. It's like they would just assume Tavares wasn't in position to make the pass, so they'd have their sticks casually off the ice. When playing with Tavares, expect to get the pass when you least expect it...he does have at least three defenders to fake out at any given time when making a play.

Edit -- That said, let's wait until we're actually drowning in 30-goal scorers before sending the only consistent one packing...

- UIF

Like I said in other posts...it's hard to trade 30 goal scorers when you don't have one behind him...
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Jul 12 @ 12:03 PM ET
I went into the team store after the scrimmage hoping to get some Clutterbuck gear and they didn't have any Now I know why they just announced he will be wearing 15. Regin 16 and Bouchard 96
- Vukota

I'm sure in a week they will have all the Clutterbuck gear you would want...
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 12 @ 12:07 PM ET
I'm sure in a week they will have all the Clutterbuck gear you would want...
- kear20

I know I know. I think I'm going to get a partial plan maybe 12-15 games. My son is now 5 and he is really getting into it
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jul 12 @ 12:17 PM ET
Could just blow up everything and go with lines looking like...

Moulson - Tavares - Strome
Bouchard - Nelson - Grabner (Speed line)
Bailey - Nielsen - Okposo
Clutterbuck - Cizikis - Martin (Hit everything line)
(McDonald/Regin)

Then if Moulson's play continues to drop off, just drop him down to the 3rd line.

- Bags502



this seems like the most unblown up line combos ive seen...just sayin
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jul 12 @ 12:18 PM ET
Not happening...Moulson is the 2nd best offensive player on the Islanders...look for another extension in January at 3 or 4 years at $4 mil per year...While I like Grabner, I see him traded for a veteran defenseman.
- kear20



grabner is a much better talent than moulson.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Jul 12 @ 12:20 PM ET
moulson, ko, bailey and frans are the ones that are gonna get pushed...these are the guys that could be on the outside looking in eventually. I would strongly consider moving moulson if he truly is only a one trick pony. I want to see him take the bod and backcheck. I still feel strome starts the season in bport and is up after 20 games
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jul 12 @ 12:21 PM ET
no need to respond to this comment because the bold is 100% bullpoop and speaks for itself.
- LetsGoIsles



I'll try and explain this better: you have to remember that a trade is PR as much as it is value. I'm not saying they can't throw these other two or one of them or whatever in with a Strome or a Reinhart and/or a draft pick(s) for something- but they're not going to be a centerpiece for a trade involving us receiving a "star" player (even if that "star" is someone like Vanek, in which case I'd be careful how I threw that word around).

That's what I mean by those three being the only ones with (and I should have said SIGNIFICANT) trade value- you can make cr*p trades rearranging the deck chairs on the boat all day long, but if you want to get someone who is a big time upgrade, a player who puts us in a "different ZIP Code" talent wise, Moulson and/or Nielsen (or Grabner, for that matter) aren't going to make that happen, period.

Also, the reality in this case, as far as trading for need, is that forwards simply do not bring back the equivalent in defensive talent- there just aren't as many defensemen IN the NHL, for one thing. Our "first line" winger, despite potting thirty per over the last three years, in a best case scenario involving returning us a breathing adult, would most likely bring us a third pairing defenseman....that's the MOST I'd expect; more likely, it would be a middling draft choice that we'd see in that deal, as I said.

For what I'd get for either Moulson OR Nielsen, I'll keep them, thanks. Grabner, in contrast, may be an odd man out- different situation, but I can pretty much guarantee that he'd do no better on the trade market, especially if it becomes apparent that someone has taken his job, and they HAVE TO unload him.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jul 12 @ 12:24 PM ET
this seems like the most unblown up line combos ive seen...just sayin
- LetsGoIsles



Bags502
New York Islanders
Location: Huntington, NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 12 @ 12:25 PM ET
this seems like the most unblown up line combos ive seen...just sayin
- LetsGoIsles


Haha... just a little different.

Most people have my 3rd line as the 2nd line, a version of my 4th line as the 3rd line, Nelson as 3rd line center, Grabner either on 3rd or 4th line and Clutterbuck playing on JT's wing.

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