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Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 11 @ 5:59 PM ET
Dont believe that is so, I am sure you need all your draft picks in consecutive years, cant jump or skip years.
- DDM-Coga


http://thehockeywriters.c...l-rfa-compensation-rules/

These rules are applicable again. Nothing changed in the recent CBA, and compensation is tied to the salary cap, which is the same next year as it was then.
DJ Lance Rock
Florida Panthers
Location: Troll Killer
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:59 PM ET
Aha!
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 11 @ 6:02 PM ET
Please no. I'd rather just enter the rebuild anyway. Without Kovy our offense has no leader. No RFA available would have changed that. Good players, but they wouldn't put us back to where we were and we'd be an average team with no first round pick for 3 years. AKA: On track to become the flames. No need to make a bad situation worse.
- rmdevil313

Yea that is probably the smart choice
yaktalksback
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jul 11 @ 6:02 PM ET
He was building a huge mansion in one of the richest towns in the country. I really don't understand this move at all.
- rmdevil313


Russian Mafia can only change a mind that quick.
thepuckhog
New Jersey Devils
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 6:02 PM ET
wow, what a thing to come home too. I'm so glad I didn't have time to f around on the internet at work today, I would have been firing people left and right. What an absolute Dbag this guy is.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 11 @ 6:02 PM ET
Yeah man, we already got penalized for his contract being cap circumvention. We should be penalized for him deciding not to play anymore. We should lose our team because we suck go rangers.
- MrToast


Sucks for New Jersey, but cap recapture should still apply. You got the benefit of not having a cap hit as high as his salary last year.
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 11 @ 6:03 PM ET
Honestly Kovy also just screwed over a lot of future Russian prospects in my opinion.

Teams were already skeptical about drafting and signing Russian talent (see this year, Nichushkin)

After this? Forget about it. If I was a GM I'd always take a North American player over a Russian right now, it's not about racism, it's about the risk of a player you invested SO MUCH in just leaving for nothing.

I really want to say "Ah well knowing the Devils they'll now somehow have a great record next year with their terrible roster" but I just LOL at that because it's so not true.
MrToast
New Jersey Devils
Location: Space, YT
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jul 11 @ 6:05 PM ET
Sucks for New Jersey, but cap recapture should still apply. You got the benefit of not having a cap hit as high as his salary last year.
- Antilles

Yeah, losing our best player is a real benefit!
thepuckhog
New Jersey Devils
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jul 11 @ 6:05 PM ET
Honestly Kovy also just screwed over a lot of future Russian prospects in my opinion.

Teams were already skeptical about drafting and signing Russian talent (see this year, Nichushkin)

After this? Forget about it. If I was a GM I'd always take a North American player over a Russian right now, it's not about racism, it's about the risk of a player you invested SO MUCH in just leaving for nothing.

I really want to say "Ah well knowing the Devils they'll now somehow have a great record next year with their terrible roster" but I just LOL at that because it's so not true.

- MannySilvers


And that is exactly what the KHL wants. They are more likely to keep their players.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 11 @ 6:08 PM ET
And that is exactly what the KHL wants. They are more likely to keep their players.
- thepuckhog


Yup. A couple of their prospects are already reluctant to come over, and another advantage is that they absolutely blow the ELC out of the water. It will be interesting to see how many russians are in the league in 10 years.
MrToast
New Jersey Devils
Location: Space, YT
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jul 11 @ 6:08 PM ET
Perhaps it's preemptive because the NHL doesn't want their players at the Olympics this year?
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 11 @ 6:09 PM ET
Yeah, losing our best player is a real benefit!
- MrToast


If Kovy kept playing, his cap recapture number would be much higher. For losing Kovy, you are getting a much lower number.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 11 @ 6:09 PM ET
If he did this because he was homesick and wanted to be back with his family, then I cannot blame him at all. TO the people saying he left 77MM worth money on the table. TO the normal population that is crazy.

When you have the option like he does to make the same amount at home and be with your family or in another country and be unhappy, I would be willing to be most if not all would take the home version.

Now if this is strictly a cash grab then that is a whole different disgusting story.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 11 @ 6:11 PM ET
is to leave the New Jersey Devils, a great organization that I have a lot of respect for, and our fans that have been great to me."


This quote pisses me off so (frank)ing much...what a douche especially about the fans...Buy my (frank)ing jersey with your name on it if we have been so great. banana eater (frank)ing douchebag little female dog.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 6:11 PM ET
Incredible!! so Sorry.... but...

We here in STL remember the Scott Stevens Saga. Killed STL for years.
things do have a way of working back around!!

- Stricknasty's Hero


That's completely different. St. Louis illegally spoke to Shanahan to sign him and the penalty was four 1st round picks, but Lou wanted Stevens so we got him eventually. Don't compare this to that.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 11 @ 6:12 PM ET
If he did this because he was homesick and wanted to be back with his family, then I cannot blame him at all. TO the people saying he left 77MM worth money on the table. TO the normal population that is crazy.

When you have the option like he does to make the same amount at home and be with your family or in another country and be unhappy, I would be willing to be most if not all would take the home version.

Now if this is strictly a cash grab then that is a whole different disgusting story.

- ImThatGuy



Hes going to sign in russia and make 20mil+ just watch. to think i actually stook up and defended this bumholes heart and effort. Really shows how heartless his play was last year.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jul 11 @ 6:12 PM ET
trade Scneider to the Oilers and start the rebuild
MrToast
New Jersey Devils
Location: Space, YT
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jul 11 @ 6:12 PM ET
If Kovy kept playing, his cap recapture number would be much higher. For losing Kovy, you are getting a much lower number.
- Antilles

oh, yeah that's a real advantage. how could I have not seen that.
devfan30
New Jersey Devils
Location: totowa, NJ
Joined: 12.18.2007

Jul 11 @ 6:13 PM ET
for those of you old enough to remember, tell me this team doesn't look like the 1995 devils. a bunch of no name kids, with a few grizzled vets that other teams thought were done. crash line in place, old and young goaltender splitting time. not saying they are a Stanley cup contender, but I do see a silver lining in the dark cloud that is ilya kovalchuk.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jul 11 @ 6:14 PM ET
Really wishing we moved the ninth pick for Ryan instead of Schneider this point will he wanna go through a rebuild likely not it would of been better to go with Marty and moose and wait to see how wedgie turns out and add lots more prospects in the following years but we will see I still think now Cory has to be the starter and Marty should understand why its no longer about loyalty cause we just seen what loyalty gets you.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jul 11 @ 6:14 PM ET
for those of you old enough to remember, tell me this team doesn't look like the 1995 devils. a bunch of no name kids, with a few grizzled vets that other teams thought were done. crash line in place, old and young goaltender splitting time. not saying they are a Stanley cup contender, but I do see a silver lining in the dark cloud that is ilya kovalchuk.
- devfan30


Too many Swedes in my opinion.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 11 @ 6:14 PM ET
oh, yeah that's a real advantage. how could I have not seen that.
- MrToast


I'm sorry, am I interrupting the little pity party you are attempting to wallow in with facts and logic?
MikeyOz
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Melbourne
Joined: 11.22.2006

Jul 11 @ 6:14 PM ET
Devils will be ok, they are a good organization, think they will still be competitive will still be better than the Regier led Sabres.
GSDIV
Boston Bruins
Location: glove_was_stuck: Long ways to go. Still have to beat the Montreal Vaneks, MA
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 11 @ 6:15 PM ET
Sorry to see this happen Devils fans. If it happened to the Bruins I'd be going beserk right now. As I'm sure it has been said already, can't help but think the lockout created this situation, and that blows.
Gambi99
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2007

Jul 11 @ 6:16 PM ET
trade Scneider to the Oilers and start the rebuild
- mighty13duck


I agree .... ...well I guess I'll be going to a lot of Islander games this year to see some good hockey...I just have to some more
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